Heavy Traffic
 

Looking @ the back trying to get thru the St.Charles gate, reminded me of the backups just before the BQE-

They should get a community watch person or a police officer to stop people from waving carts thru--Lt Siemer said its against the law.

Patience Grasshopper. In four weeks the birdies will fly away and the traffic won't be as congested.

How long a wait at St Charles gate? 30 seconds?

Went to Ocala this AM............lot of traffic.
Traveled on I75................lot of traffic.

There was a huge backup this morning going south on St. Charles approaching Buena Vista and those already on Buena Vista southbound and those westbound on 466A. Apparently at the construction site of the new Lowes shopping center, they were paving the new third, or turn lane, in front of the shopping center. Took 15 minutes to go about 200 yards. Instead of turning west on 466A, I just stayed on Buena Vista all the way to Brownwood and traffic was light. If they are putting the top coat on tomorrow, I would avoid going towards Wildwood or Winn Dixie in the morning, or take alternate routes such as Pinellas or go all the way down to 44 and forget going on 466A into Wildwood or the gold dome.

Thanx John--took my wife 15 minutes to go thru the gate--she was late for a class @ MVP Brownwood

Traffic on 446a going west this forenoon was long and slow---backed up to Sumter Grand. Traffic this time of year is dense anyway so allow time when going anywhere. So many new, hesitant drivers especially at the roundabouts.

It is the first day of the month in high-season. Lots of drivers new in town.

I remember our first visit to TV........

When a little golf cart seemed to want to cross in front of my big car, I would instinctively wave them across. OH MY! I received such helpful shouts and direction from those golf cart drivers! :22yikes:

Very jealous. Would much rather sit in your traffic than drive in 6 inches of snow today! It's all a matter of perspective, my friend...Peace out...

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the last 2 weeks the traffic sucks!

Heavy traffic? Huge backup? Have you people ever driven in any of our cities, or worse yet, cities in foreign countries? We are spoiled here in The Villages. Traffic goes from almost non existent to moderately light.

Amen, bro.

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My 9 year old granddaughter was visiting from California. They live in Los Altos Hills - between San Francisco and San Jose. We were out and about in The Villages and she looked around puzzled, and said, "Where's the traffic?"

Comparison are always drawn to make people feel better about something

But, I don't live in NYC or Chicago, or Los Angles.....I live here and here the traffic problem grows worse every year and is exacerbated because the tri-counties continues to grow faster than the infrastructure needed.

Apparently the traffic/driving situation must have some truth to it based on the various, and often repeated, threads concerning round abouts, MMP's etc.

I was forced to drive in rush hour traffic while working. It was crazy. But now I can usually schedule my driving time avoiding the congested periods here in The Villages.

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Nope. Sorry. Still no real traffic problem in TV. :)

Very few places in TV is the transportation infrastructure even close to being inadequate.

I think those problems are less related to volume, and more related to the high lousy driver to total driver ratio in TV:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You should contact Sumter County Sheriff's office, I'm sure if you ask they will assign a deputy to direct traffic !!!!!!!!!!!!!

A great number of Villagers are from N'Yawk and Beantown. And these are the folks complaining about an increase in traffic for a few months?

Compared to commuter traffic going in and out of Washington daily for 35 years, The Villages has NO traffic problem. :a040:

That or people just need something to complain about. Be happy people! You are still on the right side of the grass!

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Other half is in MI with 60 degree one day then 19 and snow today. 7 mile commute yesterday took 43 minutes. Could have walked there faster. But it was:cold::cold:

Hi Polar bear:

Yesterday I made the calculating decision of taking Morse at about 11:30 AM rather than two other possible routes to a golf shop to get some clubs re-griped

Repeat what you said to the 12-15 golf carts waiting in traffic to make a left to get off of Morse. Repeat what you said to the line of traffic waiting to exit Morse that extended almost down to the stop light and once passed the stop light another long line of traffic.

Try crossing or turning at Bailey Trail or Olmstead at the entrance of Lake Sumter or Colony or moving to the left turning lane at either Morse or 466 to get onto rolling Acres............................................. .........

I am not complaining. it is what it is I just acknowledge it. I lived in large cities. I drove in large traffic and I was use to it but large traffic lost its appeal. That was one nice thing that drew me here. it was nice while it lasted.

Consider it repeated. Been there. Done that. (By the way...Hi, rubicon. :) )

I know there are occasional and localized PITA traffic situations out there. I drive rhem all as much as anybody. And I know it's a very subjective topic. But TV transportation issues are minor and seasonal, and I have little doubt the infrastructure will grow and improve as needed.

I don't see where letting a couple of golf carts thru hurts anything. You have to wait anyway for the two cars in front of you to get thru the gate. Sometimes I wonder........

Boy do I agree. I was raised in the DFW Metroplex with over 7,000,000 people and before moving here I lived in the Atlanta metro area with over 5,000,000 people. I guess heavy traffic is a matter of perception. I love TV and btw, it's not that hot here either. :jester:

Yep. A matter of perception. I don't think the traffic here is all that bad either. Yes, a bit rough in the winter months, but a small price to pay. Plus, a little out-of-your-way navigating can help a lot. I'll take it over Atlanta any day - year round jams.

Look at it this way. Without the snowbird season, most restraunts and many shops would not survive the quite season.
So be happy, and thank the next snowbird you see for the great life and choice you have for the rest of the year! :p

Lt. Siemmer said," Letting golf carts through is against the law"-you can be ticket for hindering traffic flow and you are not a traffic control officer"

So is speeding, rolling through stop signs, not using turn signals, etc. On the list of heinous violations, letting a cart cross is certainly not on the top of the list, especially since cars are normally stopped for cars in front of them anyways.

You're right, they're all illegal...just like stopping to let golf carts cross when they don't have the right-of-way.

I wonder if anyone ever considered moving the exit gates back 50 feet, so the carts cross beyond BOTH the entry and exit gates. This would accomplish one of the goals of the gates, to allow cart traffic to cross more easily and safely, and eliminate the desire to wave carts across.

Posters speak of perception but perception is reality. I believe for full time people the reality is that from about April to October the roads are less crowded but then BANG and lines are forming everywhere.

Whereas living in a big city you become accustom to the routine of traffic bottlenecks, etc because it is a way of life
and the fun part was "making your move" you play games like did I pick the right meter lane? Can I speed up on the right to get to the left faster? should I use a mannequin to cheat and get in the HOV lane

Naw just take the back road and back streets and avoided it all...wait 100,00- other drivers had the same idea.

Just post signs-DO NOT DIRECT CART TRAFFIC--its against the law

What does any of that have to do with traffic? My understanding of the definition of traffic in this context is the number of cars on the road relative to the ability of the road to handle that many cars.

I just don't see waiting for five or six cars at a stop light as being heavy traffic.

At rush hour it can take an hour or more to go ten miles to get into a city. When I lived in Manila it once took me over an hour to go two miles.

Try going from Braintree, MA to downtown Boston at 7:00 am. It's about 12 miles and I would guess it would take 45 minutes to an hour.

Once you get into a major city there are thousands of cars and it's stop and go everywhere.

The round abouts in The Villages alleviate the traffic conditions. They allow traffic to flow more easily than stop signs. Think about what it would be if there were four way stops at every one of those intersections. People here don't understand the right of way laws as it is. We'd have people not going when they should and waving on people that don't have the right of way.


Give me round abouts and this light to moderate traffic and I'm fine.

If it's not the traffic, it the lines at the grocery store. Until I moved here I've never seen people get so upset they had to wait behind 3 or 4 other people in line at the grocery store. Damn. I have to get back to the house and watch the grass grow.

I agree. Waiting for 3-5 or even five people at the supermarket is pretty normal in most places in the world.

As someone else said, I think that year round residents get spoiled over the summer.

I do miss the self checkout lines in the supermarkets/Target from up north. I met one lovely lady at Winn Dixie that got in our line because she loved chatting with that particular checkout lady. Not the most efficient way to get through the market, but probably the friendliest.

Round-abouts (aka traffic circles) are a proven method to aid the flow of traffic in all four directions. That is why they exist throughout Europe. And it is why they exist in this well planned community.

Talking about check out out lines--people who insist on paying with checks in the express lines--IN NJ, Kings had a policy of cash or credit cards only,in express check out

Same rules in NY---but it didn't stop some people from getting on the 15 item express line with 65 items, then whipping out a fistful of coupons, half of which were expired or not for items purchased, followed by an argument with the cashier. Then they whip out their food stamps, and pay the remaining $2.17 with a check for $102.17 to get cash back, followed by an argument over showing proper ID, then a manager call, then another argument, and sometimes and accusation of discrimination on whatever basis. Was once behind a woman who had only 12 items and paid with cash----a bag of change that she slowly counted out $42.37 in quarters, dimes, nickels, and pennies. Problem is that you cannot legislate common courtesy.