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jebartle 04-21-2017 01:42 PM

what does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth!
 
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

Rockyrd 04-21-2017 01:50 PM

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Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

It is....well, shocking...to hear supposedly intelligence people defend outright lies....even when faced head on with proof of the lying.

They come on here and defend his every move.

Have we ever had a President in history that in less than 90 days has screwed up seriously so many times and so chronically.

I do not know about the tax return, except he is slapping every american in the country right in the face on that issue. With this President especially, for national security and any tax reform, we need to know. I say that and immediately think of the posters on here who actually seem not to care one iota about facts.

They have been snookered and it is only 100 days....as time goes on this just gets worse and worse, but hey.....the Trump family continues to manufacture overseas and make tons of money.

Can you imagine any other political figure of any party getting away with this ?

In return for that loyalty they spend their time,not celebrating his legislative victories, of which there are none, but defending his lying and deception. At what point do you say you don't like liars and do not like to be deceived ?

Lord knows I wanted and was prepared to strenously work for a conservative candidate to defeat Clinton, and now I am witnessing him destroy the party one lie, one deception and almost every single day

rubicon 04-21-2017 02:41 PM

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Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!


Something tells me you looked into a mirror and repeated to your self "TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT"

Something tells me you were deeply engaged in listening to the polemics of Whoopi Golderberg and Joy Behar which provided you the insight you share with us in the form of an original post (OP)

Something tells me you side with the antics by students at Berkley, Middlebury, etc because these students are resisting the terrorist KKKér, nazi Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is becoming an epidemic

P.S. don't be surprised when CNN reports that Trump has been seen raising antenna from the back of his head

Personal Best Regards:

dirtbanker 04-21-2017 02:52 PM

What did the Crooked Hillary supporter think when it became evident she had been lying all along...Oh that's right you voted for the biatch because she was a woman

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Rockyrd 04-21-2017 02:55 PM

Posts #3 and #4 certainly make the point.

graciegirl 04-21-2017 03:02 PM

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Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

That he is still the better choice over Hillary Clinton and the unrealistic way the left want to run things.

There is my answer. The nonsense that the left preaches all sounds good. But the truth is the left's rules and restrictions don't change global warming, water pollution, drug trade or Islamic terrorism. The left doesn't make women better off, or help the race issues. Obama just made the race issues worse, more tense, more angered. The left live in the world like naïve young people who want good to happen. I feel that Obama lied to us plenty. Not that that is a fair debate answer.

My answer is that we are probably better off with this man than we would be with any of the other candidates. They all had baggage and stuff I didn't want. At least this one isn't motivated by money. I hope I won't die of stress before it's over. I have never seen so many people show their ass. AND been so annoyed at both sides.

jebartle 04-21-2017 03:53 PM

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What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

That he is still the better choice over Hillary Clinton and the unrealistic way the left want to run things.

There is my answer. The nonsense that the left preaches all sounds good. But the truth is the left's rules and restrictions don't change global warming, water pollution, drug trade or Islamic terrorism. The left doesn't make women better off, or help the race issues. Obama just made the race issues worse, more tense, more angered. The left live in the world like naïve young people who want good to happen. I feel that Obama lied to us plenty. Not that that is a fair debate answer.

My answer is that we are probably better off with this man than we would be with any of the other candidates. They all had baggage and stuff I didn't want. At least this one isn't motivated by money. I hope I won't die of stress before it's over. I have never seen so many people show their ass. AND been so annoyed at both sides.

Did the OP say anything about Clinton, no! And you would have to be d illusion to think Obama was a bad choice. He had class, smarts and if congress gave him half a chance we would have accomplished a lot for America!

graciegirl 04-21-2017 04:26 PM

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Did the OP say anything about Clinton, no! And you would have to be d illusion to think Obama was a bad choice. He had class, smarts and if congress gave him half a chance we would have accomplished a lot for America!

Oh Jeannie.

Rockyrd 04-21-2017 05:15 PM

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What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

That he is still the better choice over Hillary Clinton and the unrealistic way the left want to run things.

There is my answer. The nonsense that the left preaches all sounds good. But the truth is the left's rules and restrictions don't change global warming, water pollution, drug trade or Islamic terrorism. The left doesn't make women better off, or help the race issues. Obama just made the race issues worse, more tense, more angered. The left live in the world like naïve young people who want good to happen. I feel that Obama lied to us plenty. Not that that is a fair debate answer.

My answer is that we are probably better off with this man than we would be with any of the other candidates. They all had baggage and stuff I didn't want. At least this one isn't motivated by money. I hope I won't die of stress before it's over. I have never seen so many people show their ass. AND been so annoyed at both sides.

Gracie, I am going to post with no intent to rile or anything. Just know this is how I feel.

There is nothing wrong with supporting a candidate while he is campaigning. I can even understand "panning" Clinton and Obama.

Where I find fault with you and Rubicon and all the other on here is, the election is over..done...he got elected. Now, his job is to guide our country and govern.

I will never sacrifice my own basic morals for nobody.

Now, he continues to lie FROM THE OVAL OFFICE. Your blind and I mean totally blind loyalty to him is flat out scary. You is being used in the group vernacular.

How can you allow the leader of our country to flat out lie...how can you allow the leader of our country to charge another President with wiretapping....how can you allow the President of our country to embarass us all with what he says to and about other countries.

Again, the election is over.....if the citizens of he country do not hold our President accountable, then what ? He is not longer your candidate....he is our president and we deserve better.

To come on here and reply when he is called out for lying...that "you don't read my links"......or.....speak about Clinton or Obama.....or some other reason to presumably just defer what you think is bad news.

We all have a responsibility to keep the White House honest. It is our house, not his. If you are going to accept whatever he says, even when you know it is a flat out lie, then this country is in deep trouble.

I have supported some of his "thoughts" but will never support dishonesty from that office. Everything I say I verify to be true...no president ever in history has had more people investigating him. Now, Rubicon has a name for it.....my name is being a good citizen because I assure you totally that the day will come when his honesty will be the only thing you have to rely on.

He is not honest and never has been. That does not mean he cannot survive as President...he has made some good appointments, but you are not even realizing how he lied to you and all other supporters, how he and his family are just getting richer off "our house".

If you don't question the President and what he says then you are not a loyal american. If he lies, and it is proven, he has to be called on it. As long as he has you and his base, which is dwindling, he will continue to lie. He is closing all the doors he can and becoming a secret. He has us the closest I can recall to nuclear conflict, NOT BECAUSE he is calling out Iran and/or N Korea, but because he continues to do it PUBLICLY AND WITH GREAT HATE. He needs the pats on the backs you guys give him....he needs the accolades.....may he not overextend and destroy this country any further.

Point is, and you probably have already stopped reading, but all the trip about Clinton or Obama that you say is simply making an excuse for voting for him, but now as President, we have a responsibility to keep him honest, because lying in the WH is a mortal sin and why you folks continue to support his lying and sneakiness and come on here and berate those who actually read what Trump dubs the fake news, which is sinful also to demean truth telling.

Thats it.....you probably left awhile ago, but it gets very tiresome when you post verified truths and have you and Rubicon tell us once again that Trump is never wrong and that the only bad people are progressives or whatever his word of the day is.

I do not have any of his made up syndromes. I just keep informed and care about my country before any mere mortal especially one like Trump.

dirtbanker 04-21-2017 05:21 PM

Long winded way for Rockface to say Trump sucks and nothing Trump does or anyone else does will change that...Rockface (with all 50 year experience in the political arena) will never support Trump.

Does anyone want him to explain it any further? If so please respond so...

Can we agree to disagree with him and let him go over to the ladies forum and bitch?

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Rockyrd 04-21-2017 06:12 PM

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Long winded way for Rockface to say Trump sucks and nothing Trump does or anyone else does will change that...Rockface (with all 50 year experience in the political arena) will never support Trump.

Does anyone want him to explain it any further? If so please respond so...

Can we agree to disagree with him and let him go over to the ladies forum and bitch?

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See now, this is the problem with you children. By the way ALL are not children, but you certainly are.

I have in fact supported Trump. Not the man, but policy.

BUT you and your little friends come to this forum, NOT to discuss issues but to simply troll and cause trouble, so those posts you never read.

People like you and your play pals are the kids that everyone avoided and probably still do. No conversation skills, no knowledge, just bad, and let's be honest BAD wise ass remarks.

They are not even good so you are a failure at trolling.

wjboyer1 04-21-2017 07:39 PM

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Something tells me you looked into a mirror and repeated to your self "TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT"

Something tells me you were deeply engaged in listening to the polemics of Whoopi Golderberg and Joy Behar which provided you the insight you share with us in the form of an original post (OP)

Something tells me you side with the antics by students at Berkley, Middlebury, etc because these students are resisting the terrorist KKKér, nazi Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is becoming an epidemic

P.S. don't be surprised when CNN reports that Trump has been seen raising antenna from the back of his head

Personal Best Regards:

That "something that tells you" is a symptom of a rather serious mental illness, or you are taking too much medication.....or alcohol

wjboyer1 04-21-2017 07:44 PM

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What did the Crooked Hillary supporter think when it became evident she had been lying all along...Oh that's right you voted for the biatch because she was a woman

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It became evident that the congressional committee that was investigating HRC reported there was nothing that she did that was illegal (including and not limited to perjury). So, by regurgitating Republican talking points that have been debunked, you prove that the only thing that you have to defend your pseudo-president are pants on fire accusations. Being a woman who has the best qualifications does, in fact, mean that those who voted for her are, and continue to be the intelligent Americans that this county needs to succeed, unlike those of you with many forms of organic brain syndrome.

dirtbanker 04-21-2017 09:41 PM

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It became evident that the congressional committee that was investigating HRC reported there was nothing that she did that was illegal (including and not limited to perjury). So, by regurgitating Republican talking points that have been debunked, you prove that the only thing that you have to defend your pseudo-president are pants on fire accusations. Being a woman who has the best qualifications does, in fact, mean that those who voted for her are, and continue to be the intelligent Americans that this county needs to succeed, unlike those of you with many forms of organic brain syndrome.

So why did Crooked Hillary lose?

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dillywho 04-21-2017 10:04 PM

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Posted by Guest
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

The question is: What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

Answer: The same thing as when President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and Susan Rice told lie after lie after lie.

As for never admitting to being wrong, please tell me when President Obama ever in 8 years admitted to being wrong; but he was ALWAYS taking credit for anything that worked. He spent no less than 6 years blaming President Bush for any and everything that happened on his watch....not Bush's.

As for his tax returns, BFD, other than the fact that he said that he would release them. He still has time to do that. IF there is anything, and I mean anything amiss, you can bet the farm and all the chickens on it that the IRS will waste zero time in letting the whole world know. This country has bigger problems than his tax returns. I doubt seriously that ISIS cares about them, either.

At the very least, he does not travel the world apologizing for America or for being American. The blacks never liked sitting in the back of the bus and remedied the situation. I definitely don't like to see America taking a back seat to every other country and think it's about time we got back up front standing tall! Remember what Merle Haggard sang, "....they love our milk and honey, but talk about a better way of living....". They love our money, but many hate our guts while we fill their coffers.

dillywho 04-21-2017 10:10 PM

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It became evident that the congressional committee that was investigating HRC reported there was nothing that she did that was illegal (including and not limited to perjury). So, by regurgitating Republican talking points that have been debunked, you prove that the only thing that you have to defend your pseudo-president are pants on fire accusations. Being a woman who has the best qualifications does, in fact, mean that those who voted for her are, and continue to be the intelligent Americans that this county needs to succeed, unlike those of you with many forms of organic brain syndrome.

So you are saying that you did not see and hear her blaming the video for Benghazi on national television? I did and that is the same lie that Susan Rice and Obama told over and over. Those were also televised. That is exactly what she told the parents of two who died at Benghazi and then had the audacity to accuse them of lying! As my old boss used to say, "That dog won't hunt!"

wjboyer1 04-21-2017 11:41 PM

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So you are saying that you did not see and hear her blaming the video for Benghazi on national television? I did and that is the same lie that Susan Rice and Obama told over and over. Those were also televised. That is exactly what she told the parents of two who died at Benghazi and then had the audacity to accuse them of lying! As my old boss used to say, "That dog won't hunt!"

And, if there was a crime committed, there would be an indictment and trial.......where were those? Do you believe that in a Republican controlled Congress, that she could get away with any of that? Perhaps it is because there was no real illegal activity, and you just bought the Republican talking points, which, by the way, have been debunked and the reports of the committee have shown that their activity was a political witch hunt.

So, let that rest for a bit, and please inform me why, when over 90 people (American citizens) died in embassy attacks under Bush and Powell, were there no Congressional committees investigating those incidents.

Here is an interesting poll finding by Pew Research: prior to the election, less than 20% of Republicans felt that the economy was good, after the election over 80% of Republicans thought the economy was good. But, there was little, if any change in the economy during this past few months. So, if there is little ACTUAL change, it is the perception of who holds the presidential office: and if that is true, then those Republicans only believe what Trump tells them......and so far major news sources have documented well over 173 lies that Trump has told so far and that is a modest estimate because the number keeps growing.

I believe in factual discussion, I don't think that you have facts to support your opinion, but I am open to you providing actual verifiable factual data that we can openly debate. If you cannot provide that data (again that is verifiable and factual, not from pundits, or blogs, or editorials, or ultra-right or ultra-left wing sources) I would be more than eager to match your data with mine.

If you provide opinion, non-factual non-verifiable data, I will assume, as many other who have an intelligent perspective, that you have a problem with critical thinking, that you have a problem with reality, or that you have a chemical dependence problem, to name just a few things that clouds ones' ability to engage in intelligent discourse.

The other problem that you may have is that because you cannot intelligently argue a good case for Trump, you bring up old Republican talking points that have been proven false. Those types of people normally are in their first stages of dementia, or need to be in protective wards, and perhaps your family should consider one for you.

wjboyer1 04-21-2017 11:47 PM

Trump Derangement Syndrome Source
 
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Something tells me you looked into a mirror and repeated to your self "TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT"

Something tells me you were deeply engaged in listening to the polemics of Whoopi Golderberg and Joy Behar which provided you the insight you share with us in the form of an original post (OP)

Something tells me you side with the antics by students at Berkley, Middlebury, etc because these students are resisting the terrorist KKKér, nazi Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is becoming an epidemic

P.S. don't be surprised when CNN reports that Trump has been seen raising antenna from the back of his head

Personal Best Regards:

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ColdNoMore 04-22-2017 06:13 AM

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The question is: What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

Answer: The same thing as when President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and Susan Rice told lie after lie after lie.

As for never admitting to being wrong, please tell me when President Obama ever in 8 years admitted to being wrong; but he was ALWAYS taking credit for anything that worked. He spent no less than 6 years blaming President Bush for any and everything that happened on his watch....not Bush's.

As for his tax returns, BFD, other than the fact that he said that he would release them. He still has time to do that. IF there is anything, and I mean anything amiss, you can bet the farm and all the chickens on it that the IRS will waste zero time in letting the whole world know. This country has bigger problems than his tax returns. I doubt seriously that ISIS cares about them, either.

At the very least, he does not travel the world apologizing for America or for being American. The blacks never liked sitting in the back of the bus and remedied the situation. I definitely don't like to see America taking a back seat to every other country and think it's about time we got back up front standing tall! Remember what Merle Haggard sang, "....they love our milk and honey, but talk about a better way of living....". They love our money, but many hate our guts while we fill their coffers.

Do you really not understand...why his tax returns are so important? :oops:

Do you not understand that it's not the IRS' job to determine conflicts of interest...due to investments in other countries?

Are you really so partisan, that you don't care if the POTUS might be beholden to another country/leader...that it could affect how they are treated?

I realize that my questions are mostly rhetorical, as all too many Trump Cultists like yourself...have made it clear that they don't understand or care.

At a minimum, you have forfeited the right...to call yourself a patriotic American. :ohdear:




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At the very least, he does not travel the world apologizing for America or for being American. The blacks never liked sitting in the back of the bus and remedied the situation. I definitely don't like to see America taking a back seat to every other country and think it's about time we got back up front standing tall! Remember what Merle Haggard sang, "....they love our milk and honey, but talk about a better way of living....". They love our money, but many hate our guts while we fill their coffers.


"The blacks?"
:oops:

Just the fact that you and so many others can't tell the difference between addressing someone else in their customary form of greeting and somehow conferring subservience...pretty much says it all.

Which goes right back to your "the blacks" comment, which even though you didn't mean to...indicates the REAL reason so many hate Obama. :ohdear:

ColdNoMore 04-22-2017 06:17 AM

WOW! :22yikes:


And people still love this narcissistic, sociopathic liar? :oops:


Which is primarily a commentary on their lack of moral fiber...NOT Trump's. :ohdear:

Taltarzac725 04-22-2017 06:55 AM

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Gracie, I am going to post with no intent to rile or anything. Just know this is how I feel.

There is nothing wrong with supporting a candidate while he is campaigning. I can even understand "panning" Clinton and Obama.

Where I find fault with you and Rubicon and all the other on here is, the election is over..done...he got elected. Now, his job is to guide our country and govern.

I will never sacrifice my own basic morals for nobody.

Now, he continues to lie FROM THE OVAL OFFICE. Your blind and I mean totally blind loyalty to him is flat out scary. You is being used in the group vernacular.

How can you allow the leader of our country to flat out lie...how can you allow the leader of our country to charge another President with wiretapping....how can you allow the President of our country to embarass us all with what he says to and about other countries.

Again, the election is over.....if the citizens of he country do not hold our President accountable, then what ? He is not longer your candidate....he is our president and we deserve better.

To come on here and reply when he is called out for lying...that "you don't read my links"......or.....speak about Clinton or Obama.....or some other reason to presumably just defer what you think is bad news.

We all have a responsibility to keep the White House honest. It is our house, not his. If you are going to accept whatever he says, even when you know it is a flat out lie, then this country is in deep trouble.

I have supported some of his "thoughts" but will never support dishonesty from that office. Everything I say I verify to be true...no president ever in history has had more people investigating him. Now, Rubicon has a name for it.....my name is being a good citizen because I assure you totally that the day will come when his honesty will be the only thing you have to rely on.

He is not honest and never has been. That does not mean he cannot survive as President...he has made some good appointments, but you are not even realizing how he lied to you and all other supporters, how he and his family are just getting richer off "our house".

If you don't question the President and what he says then you are not a loyal american. If he lies, and it is proven, he has to be called on it. As long as he has you and his base, which is dwindling, he will continue to lie. He is closing all the doors he can and becoming a secret. He has us the closest I can recall to nuclear conflict, NOT BECAUSE he is calling out Iran and/or N Korea, but because he continues to do it PUBLICLY AND WITH GREAT HATE. He needs the pats on the backs you guys give him....he needs the accolades.....may he not overextend and destroy this country any further.

Point is, and you probably have already stopped reading, but all the trip about Clinton or Obama that you say is simply making an excuse for voting for him, but now as President, we have a responsibility to keep him honest, because lying in the WH is a mortal sin and why you folks continue to support his lying and sneakiness and come on here and berate those who actually read what Trump dubs the fake news, which is sinful also to demean truth telling.

Thats it.....you probably left awhile ago, but it gets very tiresome when you post verified truths and have you and Rubicon tell us once again that Trump is never wrong and that the only bad people are progressives or whatever his word of the day is.

I do not have any of his made up syndromes. I just keep informed and care about my country before any mere mortal especially one like Trump.


Nice post.

Cedwards38 04-22-2017 07:36 AM

To sum up the conservative defense of President Donald Trump:

1. He won the election so shut up.
2. We hate Hillary.
3. Progressives are children.
4. Go chat with women because they are silly.
5. Obama did it first.
6. We are smarter, and right, because we can call you names like Libtard and Commie.
7. Republican, right or wrong.
8. We simply don't care that he lies.
9. Russians? What Russians?
10. It's unAmerican to speak up about policy issues with which you disagree.

How about accepting some facts? Do you still prefer the "alternative facts?" How much do you have to see and hear before you accept the truth?

dirtbanker 04-22-2017 07:38 AM

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WOW!


And people still love this narcissistic, sociopathic liar?


Which is primarily a commentary on their lack of moral fiber...NOT Trump's.

Your idol, Crooked Hillary, called us deplorables...I guess you agree with her!

ColdNoMore 04-22-2017 07:39 AM

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To sum up the conservative defense of President Donald Trump:

1. He won the election so shut up.
2. We hate Hillary.
3. Progressives are children.
4. Go chat with women because they are silly.
5. Obama did it first.
6. We are smarter, and right, because we can call you names like Libtard and Commie.
7. Republican, right or wrong.
8. We simply don't care that he lies.
9. Russians? What Russians?
10. It's unAmerican to speak up about policy issues with which you disagree.

How about accepting some facts? How much do you have to see and hear before you accept the truth?


Excellent summary. :BigApplause:

Taltarzac725 04-22-2017 07:40 AM

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To sum up the conservative defense of President Donald Trump:

1. He won the election so shut up.
2. We hate Hillary.
3. Progressives are children.
4. Go chat with women because they are silly.
5. Obama did it first.
6. We are smarter, and right, because we can call you names like Libtard and Commie.
7. Republican, right or wrong.
8. We simply don't care that he lies.
9. Russians? What Russians?
10. It's unAmerican to speak up about policy issues with which you disagree.

How about accepting some facts? Do you still prefer the "alternative facts?" How much do you have to see and hear before you accept the truth?

And lots and lots of attacks on you personally especially if you get under their very thin skins. My finances, sex life, work history and whether my parents love me have all been brought up which have nothing to do with Donald John Trump.

Rockyrd 04-22-2017 10:07 AM

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And lots and lots of attacks on you personally especially if you get under their very thin skins. My finances, sex life, work history and whether my parents love me have all been brought up which have nothing to do with Donald John Trump.

I agree with this. The name calling combined with the lack of sharing anything but who they hate the most is staggering.

I think any group that even has whispered as disagreeing with Trump has been attacked and attacked as a group. Label them and call them a name, or at minimum, blame those you have labeled for all the evils of the world.

Warren Kiefer 04-22-2017 11:43 AM

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Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

I wish I had the answer !! I have many republican friends who simply dismiss trump's lying. If I have a person lie to me only three times, I find I cannot trust that person and in no way be friends. I feel the same about Trump who has lied nearly every day. I CANNOT TRUSt HIM !!!

Warren Kiefer 04-22-2017 11:48 AM

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Something tells me you looked into a mirror and repeated to your self "TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT"

Something tells me you were deeply engaged in listening to the polemics of Whoopi Golderberg and Joy Behar which provided you the insight you share with us in the form of an original post (OP)

Something tells me you side with the antics by students at Berkley, Middlebury, etc because these students are resisting the terrorist KKKér, nazi Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is becoming an epidemic

P.S. don't be surprised when CNN reports that Trump has been seen raising antenna from the back of his head

Personal Best Regards:


My response is that I hear some who has a working brain and it is not you !!

Warren Kiefer 04-22-2017 11:53 AM

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Gracie, I am going to post with no intent to rile or anything. Just know this is how I feel.

There is nothing wrong with supporting a candidate while he is campaigning. I can even understand "panning" Clinton and Obama.

Where I find fault with you and Rubicon and all the other on here is, the election is over..done...he got elected. Now, his job is to guide our country and govern.

I will never sacrifice my own basic morals for nobody.

Now, he continues to lie FROM THE OVAL OFFICE. Your blind and I mean totally blind loyalty to him is flat out scary. You is being used in the group vernacular.

How can you allow the leader of our country to flat out lie...how can you allow the leader of our country to charge another President with wiretapping....how can you allow the President of our country to embarass us all with what he says to and about other countries.

Again, the election is over.....if the citizens of he country do not hold our President accountable, then what ? He is not longer your candidate....he is our president and we deserve better.

To come on here and reply when he is called out for lying...that "you don't read my links"......or.....speak about Clinton or Obama.....or some other reason to presumably just defer what you think is bad news.

We all have a responsibility to keep the White House honest. It is our house, not his. If you are going to accept whatever he says, even when you know it is a flat out lie, then this country is in deep trouble.

I have supported some of his "thoughts" but will never support dishonesty from that office. Everything I say I verify to be true...no president ever in history has had more people investigating him. Now, Rubicon has a name for it.....my name is being a good citizen because I assure you totally that the day will come when his honesty will be the only thing you have to rely on.

He is not honest and never has been. That does not mean he cannot survive as President...he has made some good appointments, but you are not even realizing how he lied to you and all other supporters, how he and his family are just getting richer off "our house".

If you don't question the President and what he says then you are not a loyal american. If he lies, and it is proven, he has to be called on it. As long as he has you and his base, which is dwindling, he will continue to lie. He is closing all the doors he can and becoming a secret. He has us the closest I can recall to nuclear conflict, NOT BECAUSE he is calling out Iran and/or N Korea, but because he continues to do it PUBLICLY AND WITH GREAT HATE. He needs the pats on the backs you guys give him....he needs the accolades.....may he not overextend and destroy this country any further.

Point is, and you probably have already stopped reading, but all the trip about Clinton or Obama that you say is simply making an excuse for voting for him, but now as President, we have a responsibility to keep him honest, because lying in the WH is a mortal sin and why you folks continue to support his lying and sneakiness and come on here and berate those who actually read what Trump dubs the fake news, which is sinful also to demean truth telling.

Thats it.....you probably left awhile ago, but it gets very tiresome when you post verified truths and have you and Rubicon tell us once again that Trump is never wrong and that the only bad people are progressives or whatever his word of the day is.

I do not have any of his made up syndromes. I just keep informed and care about my country before any mere mortal especially one like Trump.

I totally agree with this post !!! I too cannot understand how ones brain seems to go into neutral when Trump lies to them. How long would someone remain your friend if they lied to you constantly ?? For myself, it is not very long. I cannot believe America will sit idly by while Trump lies to them for four years >>>

dirtbanker 04-22-2017 11:54 AM

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If I have a person lie to me only three times, I find I cannot trust that person and in no way be friends.

Only 3 times? Do you warn them at lie #2? What kind of lies are you talking about (like you ask do I look good, and they lie saying you look great)? How many friends do you have? Are any of them on lie #2?



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Warren Kiefer 04-22-2017 11:54 AM

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It became evident that the congressional committee that was investigating HRC reported there was nothing that she did that was illegal (including and not limited to perjury). So, by regurgitating Republican talking points that have been debunked, you prove that the only thing that you have to defend your pseudo-president are pants on fire accusations. Being a woman who has the best qualifications does, in fact, mean that those who voted for her are, and continue to be the intelligent Americans that this county needs to succeed, unlike those of you with many forms of organic brain syndrome.


Great post and so true !!!

Warren Kiefer 04-22-2017 11:56 AM

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So why did Crooked Hillary lose?

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She won the popular vote, any fool knows that and did it without the Russian help Trump enjoyed.

Warren Kiefer 04-22-2017 12:00 PM

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only 3 times? Do you warn them at lie #2? What kind of lies are you talking about (like you ask do i look good, and they lie saying you look great)? How many friends do you have? Are any of them on lie #2?



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any lies that have a serious effect on me or my friends.

dillywho 04-22-2017 12:16 PM

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And, if there was a crime committed, there would be an indictment and trial.......where were those? Do you believe that in a Republican controlled Congress, that she could get away with any of that? Perhaps it is because there was no real illegal activity, and you just bought the Republican talking points, which, by the way, have been debunked and the reports of the committee have shown that their activity was a political witch hunt.

So, let that rest for a bit, and please inform me why, when over 90 people (American citizens) died in embassy attacks under Bush and Powell, were there no Congressional committees investigating those incidents.

Here is an interesting poll finding by Pew Research: prior to the election, less than 20% of Republicans felt that the economy was good, after the election over 80% of Republicans thought the economy was good. But, there was little, if any change in the economy during this past few months. So, if there is little ACTUAL change, it is the perception of who holds the presidential office: and if that is true, then those Republicans only believe what Trump tells them......and so far major news sources have documented well over 173 lies that Trump has told so far and that is a modest estimate because the number keeps growing.

I believe in factual discussion, I don't think that you have facts to support your opinion, but I am open to you providing actual verifiable factual data that we can openly debate. If you cannot provide that data (again that is verifiable and factual, not from pundits, or blogs, or editorials, or ultra-right or ultra-left wing sources) I would be more than eager to match your data with mine.

If you provide opinion, non-factual non-verifiable data, I will assume, as many other who have an intelligent perspective, that you have a problem with critical thinking, that you have a problem with reality, or that you have a chemical dependence problem, to name just a few things that clouds ones' ability to engage in intelligent discourse.

The other problem that you may have is that because you cannot intelligently argue a good case for Trump, you bring up old Republican talking points that have been proven false. Those types of people normally are in their first stages of dementia, or need to be in protective wards, and perhaps your family should consider one for you.

The question was about lying, not whether a crime was committed or not. They all LIED. And, NO, I did not get that from any talking points. I was WATCHING when they all 3 went on national television time and again to try and sell their BIG lie about the slaughter at Benghazi being the result of a damned video. I was WATCHING when those parents related what she told them happened to their loved ones and promised to catch the video maker. I was WATCHING when Hillary said they were LYING and then hastily tried to cover up by saying that MAYBE they just misunderstood. She was just trying to cover her own butt. They would never have lied about what happened had this happened AFTER Obama was re-elected. They were too afraid that he would lose if they told the truth. Those, my friend, are the FACTS. I am neither stupid nor in any stage of dementia nor have diminished hearing. I will gladly allow my physicians to attest to those FACTS concerning me.

Tell me, did you keep count of their lies? Of course not. That would not fit with either your admiration or love of them or your agenda.

President Trump is not perfect and will never be. Funny thing, when he gets something wrong, he lies. When libs do it, they mis-spoke. He probably doesn't always tell the truth. So far, I don't think he has managed to get anyone killed by it. Seems that YOU are the one listening to the pundits, bloggers, etc. instead of admitting when you are wrong. Or are you trying to convince everyone that you are NEVER wrong?

It may turn out that voting for President Trump will end up being a big mistake. If so, then it will not be the first mistake any of us has ever made in an election. I am a firm believer in voting and, as such, am willing to own my choices. Unless a person votes, they have no gripe or celebration coming.

It was heavily predicted that the stock market would have totally crashed by now, people would be stuck with zero health care, more people than ever would be out of work, etc. What happened to all that? It is only insurance companies that are kicking folks to the curb because Obamacare is not sustainable, not President Trump.

Everything he tries to do, he meets opposition. Why? When will those in power start thinking about our country and its people instead of themselves, and work with each other just like they ALL promise to do.....until they get re-elected. The only good thing I can say for ole Nancy Pelosi is that she makes no bones about not even going to try to get along with anything coming from the "other side". At least, that's honest.

You want facts: Just go to youtube, put in Obama Addressing the Nation and the UN after Benghazi. You will see and hear him. Then come back and tell me I "don't have any facts to back up what I say". I watched it all when it was FiRST televised live. I am also going to check out what Hillary and Susan Rice said about it. It should also be available on youtube.

rubicon 04-22-2017 12:48 PM

Reading this thread brought to mind the mutual admiration hugfest also called Hollywood's Award Shows.

First they always flatter one another and boast about their great acting abilities and how great they are at being humanitarians blah blah blah.

Secondly they love it so much they keep inventing more awards shows so that a) they can have more hug fests b) be certain everyone gets a participant trophy .

Well did you notice the comments here by progressives who made false, nasty, incorrect observations and assumptions ,about Trump, and conservative posters received a high five from another progressive. Convenient. "Hey man your right on that conservative bozo can't chew gum and walk at the same time" Kool your just so Kool:D

Rockyrd 04-22-2017 01:11 PM

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Reading this thread brought to mind the mutual admiration hugfest also called Hollywood's Award Shows.

First they always flatter one another and boast about their great acting abilities and how great they are at being humanitarians blah blah blah.

Secondly they love it so much they keep inventing more awards shows so that a) they can have more hug fests b) be certain everyone gets a participant trophy .

Well did you notice the comments here by progressives who made false, nasty, incorrect observations and assumptions ,about Trump, and conservative posters received a high five from another progressive. Convenient. "Hey man your right on that conservative bozo can't chew gum and walk at the same time" Kool your just so Kool:D

Since I KNOW, despite your on going litany, that I am not one of your described evil ne'er-do well progressives, and despite not being afflicted with whatever terrible disease you lay at the feet of ALL progressives, I criticize our President and I do it routinely and factually.

Since you accuse posters of "...,,"who made false, nasty, incorrect observations and assumptions ,about Trump" I feel compelled to ask you to, instead of the blanket condemnation that you so enjoy, share specifics for those "false, nasty, incorrect observations" that you reference.

Seems like an honorable thing to do, and since I am sure I have criticized Trump, I take it personally. However, I recall being critiqued for supply TOO MUCH backup.

I await specifics, see without that nobody can defend themselves and your general accusations just lay out there.

PS...I would hope that you might consider backing up your charges, because you would not want to practice that Alinsky tactic, now would you ? Who attacks and accuses with no backup...oh, yeah...the President

Taltarzac725 04-22-2017 01:15 PM

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I totally agree with this post !!! I too cannot understand how ones brain seems to go into neutral when Trump lies to them. How long would someone remain your friend if they lied to you constantly ?? For myself, it is not very long. I cannot believe America will sit idly by while Trump lies to them for four years >>>

I do not like to be lied to either but sometimes it has taken me a long time to figure out what a con man or woman someone I really liked was or is. But Donald Trump is quite easy to spot as a habitual liar.

MDLNB 04-22-2017 03:03 PM

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She won the popular vote, any fool knows that and did it without the Russian help Trump enjoyed.

What help did Trump "enjoy?" Was it the help he got from a decade old illegally obtained recording that was released to the public? Did that help him get elected? Was it the illegally released Trump tax returns that the media released? Did that help him?

What hurt Hillary? Did her illegally having a server to do classified business upon, hurt her? Who's fault was that? Was that due to the Russians? Did her lying to congress hurt her? Was that attributed to the Russians? Did these help Trump? The truth about Hillary's corruption helped Trump? Did the Russians make Hillary break several felonies? I know that Hillary and Pedosta made millions from the Russians. But, that doesn't count, right?

Why don't you grow up and admit that Hillary was a flawed and very bad candidate. She was lazy too. She did not campaign when she should have been, allowing everyone else to do her work for her. Obamas (both) campaigned for her, Biden campaigned for her, Slick Willie campaigned for her (although that probably hurt her more than helped her). She even had Sanders campaigning for her. And she did not win. Not only did she lose, but areas that were blue before are now RED. I believe that both Hillary and Obama can share the blame for that.

Cedwards38 04-22-2017 04:54 PM

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And lots and lots of attacks on you personally especially if you get under their very thin skins. My finances, sex life, work history and whether my parents love me have all been brought up which have nothing to do with Donald John Trump.

You're right! It's simply pathetic schoolyard bullying. I guess it's been working for them since they pushed people around and made fun of them on the elementary school playground, and it's still all they have. No facts. No logic. No rational thought. And certainly no questioning of what is right in front of their face. All of us who have questioned any of the lies and lunacy of the Trump Presidency on this website have faced this type of insane childish criticism. His supporters can't argue the facts so they attempt to attack the speaker.

Bottom line though is that we see through it. It's not going to work. I obviously don't care what someone thinks of me who denies the obvious, and I urge you to do the same. Their credibility was lost long ago. Hang in there, and keep on sharing the truth! Thanks for posting.

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ColdNoMore 04-22-2017 05:43 PM

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You're right! It's simply pathetic schoolyard bullying. I guess it's been working for them since they pushed people around and made fun of them on the elementary school playground, and it's still all they have. No facts. No logic. No rational thought. And certainly no questioning of what is right in front of their face. All of us who have questioned any of the lies and lunacy of the Trump Presidency on this website have faced this type of insane childish criticism. His supporters can't argue the facts so they attempt to attack the speaker.

Bottom line though is that we see through it. It's not going to work. I obviously don't care what someone thinks of me who denies the obvious, and I urge you to do the same. Their credibility was lost long ago. Hang in there, and keep on sharing the truth! Thanks for posting.


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