separate fennny???
 

should fenny and all other new down south villages be separate from main villages, let them start a villages 2, no bridges or cart path to connect to main villages , and no shared services like rec centers and golf courses. is that a bad thing or good ?? what do you think ??

If they don’t get approval for all the bridges they de facto will be The Villages II.


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The OP'S idea would be OK except no cart ride to have the Onion Rings :eclipsee_gold_cup: at the Fenney Grill? That just wouldn't be fair! It must be connected or there would be a whole lot of broken :shrug: promises to the people who live there and those already under contract to live there.

Morse has always supplied the infrastructure, Rec Centers and amenities prior to selling their first house. This hasn’t happened this time. I would be a wary buyer if I were interested in Fenny. Especially when certain parts are subject to state approval. [emoji47]


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I heard from a high placed source, that Fenney and the other new lands were not owned by the Morse heirs. This means a whole different ball game from The Villages.


I vote to keep them separate. Let them have their own amenities, town square(?) and different gate card code. Then they can pursue their own destiny.

I have to agree with Nucky that statements by the Developer have been made that Fenney is clearly part of The Villages. There is no reason to believe that the bridges and tunnels will not be built as outlined in the plan. Brownwood needs the additional residential development and the residents already south of State Route 44 need golf cart access to Brownwood.

That would be the same as people in Detroit can’t go to Birmingham. So Villages proper would not be able to invade Fenny domain. Little unrealistic.

Beside we have been down to red and grey fox 4 times, the pool twice, the walking path twice, and going to the putting greens Friday. It’s a nice change.

Try the onion rings at Tierra Del Sol. Excellent. Both locations managed by same people.

Another very, very intersting post about Fenney.

I just love hearing about Fenney all the time.

I wonder how residents of the historic villages felt about crossing 441 and growing South?

I wonder how the residents between 441 and 466 felt about crossing 466 and growing south? Ditto for historic residents.

And then there are the residents between 466 and 466A and how they felt about crossing 466A and growing south? Ditto the above two.......

Some how it all worked the way it was planned. The developer delivered on everything the promised to do and maintain.

One could get the impression there are a lot of folks with a lot of time on their schedule. Rather than wishful guessing...try going outside and measuring some passing clouds. The results have a better chance of being more accurate than some of the unfounded comments and wishful thinking..

In my humble opinion.

Wait! Onion rings? Better than Cane Garden??

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I think that’s a terrible thing and why would you want that? I’m surprised at how many mean people there are in The Friendliest Home Town! Shame on you...

You saved me a long but beautiful ride for Onion Rings. Trying to understand why they would stop building is not on my screen. It is what they do. Think about it this way, who are we to tell them what to do with their fortune? Even though our posters are from Captains of Industry to various jobs down the line many people would consider the success they have already achieved as enough of a Pot O' Gold. The "Morris". Lol. Morse family is unstoppable and are winners and as no one here has their kind of money so no one is qualified to challenge them because no one can come close to the state of mind they must be in to continue when they could be sitting under a coconut tree ordering drinks all day.

Many people once settled here want the progress to stop. In my opinion it can't stop it won't stop and it shouldn't stop. Build on. Villages I, Villages II??? Whose name is on the paperwork and who laid out the funds for the expansion?? We many have a concern but everyone needs something to worry about. If this is your worry you're lucky. :popcorn:

Happiness and good health to all the New Villagers wherever the are.:coolsmiley:

I don’t believe that the Florida legislators never envisioned a city the size of the Villages when they created the concept of CDDs to help local developers. I believe we are approaching a size that will require changes in governance and what the city can and can’t do. Not for us to decide as it will require changes made by the State of Florida legislators to CDD rules and regulations.

We are unique as no one else comes close to our current or projected size. A few adjustments have been made. Will our future size demand more changes?

Wow, it seems there are alot of Fenney haters out there. There were people in the Fenney Grill who stated we were not "real villagers." The other person answered, "then why are you here?" I live in Fenney and love it. I still work and many of the people moving in also still work so we are used to driving. We are content where we are. Golf cart access is not why we are here and the people I know and are continuing to meet, this not a make or break deal. Fenney is closer to a beautiful Publix, gas, pharmacy, and a wonderful urgent care(had to use last week) than where I lived in Texas. We know about the prison, bond, taxes, traffic, changes that could be in the future, growth, the great onion rings, the developer(said in hushed tone) wanting to develop, and on and on and on. We are here and are Villagers. I am so grateful to be here and my wonderful fiance, fighting health issues, stated he feels like he has died and gone to heaven. He has begun to be more active and is getting so much support and love from neighbors. That, as far as I am concerned, is what the Villages are all about.

Rule #1 - Ignore the numbnuts who make stupid comments.

Rule #2 - There are no other rules.


Also, there are 15 or 20 habitual complainers on TOTV. There are 100k residents. The complainers are irrelevant and miserable so they think you should be too.

I think the state of Florida is excited about the economic development in Sumter County and would like to replicate it in other areas of the state. They are all for the growth of TV

I would agree! Yet, current regulations call for local counties to provide disaster service to The Villages. The Villages is not allowed to control this and several other services that are commonly handled by a city government. It's not the growth, it's the structure of government and what is allowed that I believe may need to be changed because of size.

Does anyone really believe that the new villages south of 44 won't be connected to the old villages north of 44 via golf car? The Villages Golf is already selling gas, doing minor repairs, and renting golf cars down here, getting more name recognition for the near future I would say.

You do not have to be humble.
Your thoughts are well stated, and hopefully will make those that posted the bashing comments to............stop and think!

I do not live in Fenny. But, I am happy - that you are happy.
You are a part of just more good Villagers. Welcome!

separate fennny???
 

No one hates Fenny or the Fennyites . I think many don’t like what the Morse family is doing in that they should have done it elsewhere. Development south of 44 will cause too much crowding out of our amenities north of 44 with barely anything to offer us south of 44. Pitch ‘n Putt will get old, retail will be inadequate and construction traffic coming up and down Morse won’t let up for another 10 years, minimum.


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It really is nice down here. Very little traffic to contend with at this point, quiet evenings, no crowds, a lot of "take charge" owners setting up social gatherings, and events. We're all new down here and it's fun meeting someone new every day. We even have mail box keys now just like up north, the first golf courses are open, the DeSoto rec center is going up fast and so is DeSoto for that matter, several Fenney sections have no building lots left, and the new sections are building up quickly. Gotta mention natural gas, that was a win for us. The bashers are only showing their ignorance and when they realize that this is the future of The Villages it will stop.

Yes, that is what most of us have gone thru. For us it was in 2002, growing with a new village.
And I don’t think living here for six months is time to know everything......let alone bashing at every turn.

What do I think? I think the idea being good or bad is irrelevant. Your question seems to indicate that the possibility of deciding this is yet to come. "The ship has already sailed," as the saying goes.

That source is absolutely wrong. Therefore, the "ball game" remains unchanged. And Thank Goodness for that.

I really can't see the state of Florida killing the goose that laid, and continues to lay, the golden egg for them.

Did two rec centers, two executive courses a restaurant and a new Put & Play facility not open in coordination with the opening of The Village of Fenney?

Fenney is just one Village, not the entire southern development. That’s just now beginning.

I’m still confused why people think they will all of a sudden just bail on building golf courses, commercial space and rec centers. Why would they mess with a formula that’s made them millions?

When everything is filled in, which shouldn't take very long, a couple three years, then Pitch 'n Putt will be joined by all of the other things, including more golf courses, rec centers, pools, businesses, etc.. If, and I hate to be tiresome, some would wait and see how things are carefully planned and the plans are NOT revealed ahead of time by the Morse family, and that things fall in place exactly the way they should, we wouldn't have to read off base negative speculation from posters who hasn't really been here long enough to see how things work out well.

Patience Grasshopper. Hide and watch. All's well that ends well.

This is just another post to get everyone fired up. They're not done building and they're not going to screw up on a plan that's been working fine all along. They will continue to build but they're going to do it their way and piece by piece. Trust me they didn't get this far by being stupid. The state, counties and villages aren't about to kill the goose that's laying the golden egg either. Look at the jobs that are being created. Last two weeks between Lowe's and the new Body's over 200 new jobs were created and there's more on the way. JMO

Do you really believe that the developers are as short sighted as you are? Have you not seen the maps that have been put out in the paper over the last year that have shown golf courses, retail areas, recreation facilities, and more? There's a lot to come that we know nothing about but guaranteed there is a well thought out plan.

No, they're not going to share with you or anyone else exactly what they have planned, it's their business and none of you yours or anyone else's. They've proven for 30 years now that they have a plan and a product that works and works well. They've changed with the times and needs and have experimented with many different ideas and concepts, some worked and some didn't work as well, we're seeing hints of changes to come even now.

Between March 2002 and September 2004 all of the CDDs between CR466 and SR44 (CDD5 through CDD10) were established. That's thousands of acers of land that were purchased and plans laid out. For those of you who pray at the alter of Harold Schwartz saying he would have never done it like this or let it get so big, you're clueless. Mr. Schwartz died in December 2003 in the middle of this great expansion. He was an integral and driving part of the planning, growth, dream, and success of The Villages. Do you think that that was the end of it at SR44, doubtful, the lots weren't laid out south of SR44 but no doubt the ground work was being done even back then. Did it really make any since to put Brownwood and the Rohan Rec Center all the way at the south end? Doesn't look like poor planning any more.

For anyone south of CR466 who wants to sing the "It's too big, they need to stop growing" song, you need to change your tune, try singing "I'm a fool because I didn't do my homework" because the plans were all out there in the public records for all to see, all you needed to do was look.

In my opinion, Fenney was unexpected fruit when the developer of Wildwood Springs finally gave up and went looking for a way to cut their losses. They saw an opportunity and jumped on it, now the work continues to backfill the gap between Fenney and the rest of The Villages. To separate the two would be a huge mistake, and if they did and they built something new and different, an indoor pool for example, the crying would start north of SR44, "how come they get that and we don't, it's not fair...:cryin2:".

We're just seeing the start of something big, the Landstone purchase, the Baily bridge, roads that strangely end in Southern Oaks, the Cow Hammock purchases, Leesburg properties at SR470, close but unconnected swaths of land, and may other things are just a glimpse of things to come.

The residents of Fenney (not fenny and not fennny) pay for the same access to amenities and privileges that you do. They are part of The Villages without a II.

Elitist comments like this are out of line.

I began another thread last night thanking a Mira Mesa resident for a very unemotional and factual of how the 2nd and 3rd generation family developers pivoted from the original promises of the original developer solely based on greed. he speaks of the mismanagement of The villages Hospital. He speaks of the amendment to the 80/20 rule.

He wants TV to end at Brownwood. He wants the developer out. He believes the developer should focus on Feeney, et al as a separate and 2nd The Villages.

If you are interested his article is posted on the other publication devoted to village news.

And the new Disney parking lot is putting in parking for golf carts. I wonder why?

Always remember, we are not trees....;)


Golf cart parking at Disney...lol...I KNEW pretty soon we’d be able to drive our carts there. Remember to put your transponder on the windshield.

An easy 3.5 hour drive............another good reason to have gas vs. electric.

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The Villages Hospital was built by the developer and leased to the hospital corporation who runs it.

Is it greed or a for profit business employing thousands and allowing their children to attend the
Charter Schools?

The Federal government is the entity in charge of the regulations on developments for mainly seniors. I haven't heard any changes in that rule of 80/20.

A lot of complaining about complainers, just sayin'. Anyhow, I'm all for the continued development of The Villages, but I do think that South of 44 may have a different feel to it over the years

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