matt lauer
 

wow nbc fired lauer today, lots of tv stars are going down, this is just the beginning of a long list.

SAD.

I missed the whole trial by jury and the evidence.

Sexual harassment is real and it is not acceptable but I fear this is becoming like the Salem Witch Hunt.

They believed the woman and said they suspect there have been others. Maybe Lauer admitted it or maybe NBC was trying to get out from under a very costly contract.

In any event, it's not a court of law so trial by jury is not necessary for a company to fire an employee. If he feels he's innocent, he has the right to sue for unjust dismissal and slander. If he does sue successfully, NBC would pay out a lot more than what his contract called for so I would guess that they are pretty sure about what occurred.

But problems might develop as these people are exposed. It's getting pretty easy for a woman to simply accuse a man of something that might have happened years ago in order to ruin his life. I would guess that there are plenty of vindictive women out there that might be thinking about getting someone back for some kind of issue that was not sexual harrassment.

I KNOW I will get slammed for this but here goes .....

Totally agree with you on the witch hunt! Along with all the women who post on this board, we were all young once and I, for one, learned real early how to deal with harassment. I could go on and on, but just as a "for instance", would you really go to a man's apartment after he has put the move on you - as many of the women did with Harvey whatshisname!

Did anyone see Angela Lansbury's comments on this, this morning?

I agree.

Some men sexually harass women.
Some women lie about sexual harassment.
All people need to learn how to handle the strongest urge we all are gifted with, next to self preservation.

I have two different fears...............I have one for my son and grandsons and a second type of fear for my daughters and granddaughters.

Over the years, I've seen guys that were labeled, "Huggers". Most were just harmless, or appeared to be harmless. Harmless or not, the Huggee decides.

It's difficult.

Yes, feared for one of my sons, he was a pretty boy. He came through unscathed - I think, because I never heard anything.

For me, I learned very quickly that when a man put his arm around you for ANY REASON, you could just slide out of it and make an excuse to move on. But, I was never a starlet looking for a big break. I also had a wonderful older sister who taught me the ropes early on. However, I was never in a life or death situation, so I don't know how I would have handled that.

There are two sides to a pancake...no matter how flat it is. That said, just read an article about the man and guess within "the office" his escapades were well known but NBC didn't want to do anything because the show was #1. Disgusting!!!

The complaint about Lauer was for sexual assault, not harassment, at Rio Olympics. This is just tip of the iceberg, NYT has been working on a Lauer story for months, stay tuned.

Sorry to all you who think Matt was just the sweetest guy.

@yashar

Lauer is among the worst I've heard about. Not in terms of the kind of misconduct but the way in which he manipulated these women into silence. It's evil, frightening stuff.

Lauer
 

Not making excuses, but a lot partying went on after hours at the Rio games among reporters, network types and athletes. You see, there's a weakness with masculine biochemistry. Alcohol slows down inhibitions and makes guys believe all women want to have sex with them. It's like the old joke goes about what the difference is between a fox and a dog: three Martinis. Or you might remember the beatnik writings of Lawrence Ferlinghetti, "...And in the morning, she had bad teeth and didn't even like poetry."

By the way, is there a statute of limitations on this stuff? As a four-year-old, I may have had a playground "show-me-yours" encounter. :jester:

Can you link us to a credible source?

Looking for connection to New York Times and found that Lauer and NYT reporter Brian Stelter had a "contentious " relationship.

I wasn't paying attention back then, but this is interesting;

Access Denied

I am digging and finding dirt on Matt Lauer.

sigh.

Matt Lauer fired from NBC News after complaint about 'inappropriate sexual behavior' - Nov. 29, 2017

Just like Weinstein story, this will unfold in the next few days. There will be more about Matty.

Lack's memo said it was the first complaint lodged against Lauer in his career at the network. But it also said "we were also presented with reason to believe this may not have been an isolated incident."
Indeed, Lack and other NBC News executives have known for weeks that The Times and Variety magazine were working on investigations into Lauer's behavior.
Variety's New York bureau chief Ramin Setoodeh said on Twitter that he and his colleague Elizabeth Wagmeister have been doing reporting "about serious sexual harassment allegations against Lauer" for two months.

Matt Lauer was watch my me daily and I do like watching him, The Today Show,but I would like to know the full story and I do think all names should be included. They say it happen during the 2114 Olympics.

This has been the culture for years and women feared if they said anything they would be blamed and/or they would become unemployable. I once worked for a very rich and powerful attorney and this was routine in the office. Fortunately I was not one of the pretty young girls.

We had an Aunt Lil who taught us all the "Listen Bub" Speech.

Listen Bub was a career killer.

Prostitution is a many shaded sort of thing.

Dancing a side step and carefully maneuvering and diplomatically dealing with things takes expertise.

Moving fast and playing dumb enters into it.

I’m all for getting the guys who either physically forced (raped in my book) or used their power to force a female to have sex but I’m getting tired of the groping claims. As has been said, too much of a witch hunt. I don’t like Al Franken’s groping but it certainly shouldn’t fall into the same category as Weinstein’s power rapes. You go after a minor, you deserve whatever you get, preferably in a court of law. Same with rape. At the very least, you deserve to be shown the door if you’ve forced someone to have “consensual” sex because of your power base. Lesser acts, to me, deserve public condemnation, embarrassment but not necessarily more than that, unless it is an act constantly repeated and is recent. I really don’t want to hear that you were groped thirty years ago when you were 25.

I know I’ve been the victim of sexual harassment, once by an attorney who gave me a choice — sleep with him or find a new job. Fortunately, I was skilled enough and mature enough that the intimidation went no further. I found a new job the next day. Had it happened today, I would have reported him so that he could not subject someone else to that kind of pressure. Even so, I’ve never forgotten the incident nor my feelings when it was said.

Are you an expert on this? Are you insinuating that all these sexual harassment complaints come from prostitutes? Or do you have a credible link you can supply us with?

Nope. Just my thoughts, misinterpreted. It happens a lot.

Well said. As usual.

Exactly, you were "skilled enough and mature enough", not all the girls were and "if it happened today it would be a different story". It was a culture that I'm glad is finally being broken. The men felt they were entitled and the girls felt ashamed.

NBC is not as proud as a Peacock anymore. I feel so bad for all these women who are being hurt. If they found out yesterday and cut him loose immediately it must really be a whopper screw up. I think I remember him getting into trouble at home with his wife several years ago with bad behavior at the Olympics. NBC needed to make room in the checkbook, don't forget they have his replacement ready in the bullpen, enter Megyn Kelly.

The Today Show was on in my house thru most of my life and it was great. I stopped watching about 9 years ago. On occasion I'll go back for a day or two and see what's happening. I really feel bad for Savannah & Al Roker. Al is the man, he is almost as good of a weatherman as our very own Tuccillo.

Here we go again with the Kardashian School of Journalism ntion of news.

Suddenly simultaneously and across this nation the journalist, talking heads talk show host engage in trash talk that is being treated as note-worthy news

What ever happened to people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?

What ever happened to don't kick a man when he is down?

what ever happened to speaking about people who inspired, that spoke to higher idea and goals et al?

We are a becoming a really sick society

Breaking: Matt Lauer accused of sexual harassment by multiple women

As the co-host of NBC’s “Today,” Matt Lauer once gave a colleague a sex toy as a present. It included an explicit note about how he wanted to use it on her, which left her mortified.
On another day, he summoned a different female employee to his office, and then dropped his pants, showing her his *****. After the employee declined to do anything, visibly shaken, he reprimanded her for not engaging in a sexual act.
He would sometimes quiz female producers about who they’d slept with, offering to trade names. And he loved to engage in a crass quiz game with men and women in the office: “f—, marry, or kill,” in which he would identify the female co-hosts that he’d most like to sleep with.

Matt Lauer Accused of Sexual Harassment by Multiple Women (EXCLUSIVE) – Variety

After reading that Variety article, I’m at a loss as to why Savannah Guthrie is “devastated.” That whole crew kept his despicable behavior a secret for a long time. They all knew. It’s just horrible.

I call it Ann Curry Karma!

I was thinking the same thing. Ann and probably countless others.

Say what? :oops:


You do understand don't you, that an employer doesn't need a legal verdict to terminate an employee if they feel they have credible reports...of blatant violations of their own rules of conduct? :ohdear:

:BigApplause:...EXCELLENT POST!....:BigApplause:


Maybe the winds of real change...are starting to blow.

For too long, all too many men and women have just accepted disgusting behavior like this while hiding behind an attitude of... "well, men are like that and we just need to accept it."

As the proud father of a daughter and two sons...they have all been taught differently.

Many companies, including Fox and CBS, should be complimented for their willingness to take decisive action...even when it hurts their fiscal bottom line.

As for politicians, it's not quite as easy to just fire them for the same things, but decent Americans need to immediately QUIT MAKING EXCUSES for these men (and potentially some women)...based on who they like or what party they belong to.

Have there been women who have made false accusations?

Of course there have been.

Are there 100 of times more incidents where women have stayed silent, because they saw how other women were attacked and savaged for speaking up?

Oh yeah...you can take that to the bank.

I guess what surprises me the most, are the women who attack the actual victims and stick up for the harassers...based solely on their own bias'. :ohdear:

Anyway, as I mentioned above, I hope this is the beginning of the end for the acceptance of this behavior...REGARDLESS of how much the person doing it is liked.

Given certain recent situations where the person has not only not suffered the consequences, but is still popular with a certain demographic...I'm still ambivalent on whether that will actually happen though.

CNM, I totally agree. I want there to be professional behavior at work. I want sexual harassment to stop. I want it to be brought out in the open so that an individual feels free to say that behavior is not acceptable. However, I don’t want to see careers destroyed, marriages hurt, families completely humiliated because of bad behavior that was considered semi-acceptable at the time it was committed. Sexual predators, rapists, child molesters, stalkers — go get ‘em. Lock ‘me up and throw away the key. For the others, let them know their behavior will no longer be tolerated and any bad act from henceforth will be grounds for immediate termination, prosecution, public humiliation and civil lawsuits. I do believe in fair warnings.

NBC has known about Lauer’s behavior for years.
When the ratings were great they ignored it.

It doesn’t help his case that he had a bad reputation which makes it easy to believe the charges.

I have to believe that NBC must have a strong case to fire him.

The bottom line is that the rich and famous have an enormous sense of entitlement.

Matt Lauer has always been a dirtbag IMHO. He tried to do a number on Bill O'Reilly in an interview about the allegations against Bill. Isn't Karma wonderful?

Funny you mention this.............I never say the interview, but ABC just showed a segment of it. Matt was sitting pretty high and mighty.

Not that anyone was affected by it in the least, but the Today Show and Matt Lauer lost one viewer (me) when they dismissed Ann Curry.

Let's not forget, we are all sinners.

We are by nature sinful and unclean. We have sinned against God in thought, word, and deed, by what we have done and by what we have left undone.

I pray for all.

Ready to make your confession?

matt lauer
 

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