Glenn Beck Appearance
 

I have heard that the numbers of attendees reported at some of these guest appearances have been over-reported. For instance, 25,000 for Glenn Beck? Some people feel that the crowd numbered more like 5,000. Same with Sarah Palin's last appearance. Beck's "plan" seems like what everyone wants, but how many are willing to make any kind of sacrifice? Let's hear how enthusiastic people will get if called upon to state what they can promise or have already done to carry out his fantasy. Same with health reform. Nobody wants to "give", only to "get".

Interesting questions, but I think this topic belongs in Political.

What happend to that original number you threw out there of 125,000....still curious where you heard that ????

I was there so I cannot say how many people were there other than a whole lot. I spoke with several people who were from outside of TV. I didn't get a hint of welfare people but working stiffs who love God & country. These people could be revolutionaries. They are angry about government spending and control.

Will these people follow Becks 100 yr plan? I don't know. I am willing to bet they will for the next 3 or 4 elections. That is all they need. They know that if they get back to a conservative type government, with tax cuts for tax payers, that rewards work not sloth and a military that undertakes no war that it does not intend to win. they will prosper.

I was surprised at the number of young people who were there. I am encouraged.

The real question will prove to be: Does Glen Beck have enough followers to make a difference? Time will tell. I hope so.

Just some thoughts.

Yoda

Feared
 

Glen Beck is one of the most intelligent men in the country a truly gifted thinker with a command of communication like few men in history. he is also a Conservative.

This is why he is a perfect example of what leads Liberals to fear him and begin their tirades to destroy him personally without any attempt to address the issues he raises.

The larger figure was word-of-mouth. The lesser one was from the newspaper. An attendee gave his estimate.

Entertainer/promoter
 

Many of us do not take Glenn Beck seriously...rather we view him as nothing more than an entertainer and promoter (and a good one at that).

FNC and Limbaugh are thriving
 

Beck and O'Reilly and FNC are posting massive ratings, consistently trouncing rival cable network news/opinion programs. The vast center-right numbers of the mainstream American populace have been stifled, conned and swindled by the corrupt pols of DC long enough; we're ready for the Revolution our founding fathers would demand.

Ask bold questions,
Speak without fear,
Hold to the truth

Obama
 

How would you describe Obama?

POTUS...with three years to go. Let's see how he does and we'll decide then.

Too Late
 

That will be too late.

Why don't you hold off on Beck for three more years to be fair?

Fyi...
 

I can't imagine why you think Liberals fear Glen Beck or Sarah Palin??? It's simply not true. What is your reasoning behind this statement. Just curious???:shrug:

What is it that Glen Beck says, that you disagree with?

Yoda

He plays loose with facts and often prefaces a comment thusly" "I can't prove this, but what if..."
Isn't that called "making things up?"

Right On!
 

I agree! He's not a commentator, he's a storyteller, including all the tears and drama. :yuck:

I am not a big fan of Beck actually, but find it strange that you call him a liar...ok, you didnt say liar but your sure implied that....AND I would ask you to present a situation IN CONTEXT of his not telling the truth ! I assume this should be very easy based on your posts !

Thanks

DITTO!

Yoda :popcorn:

Beck speaks for himself...it is up to him to support or justify his claims, assertions and innuendos. Surprise...he doesn't.
You ask me to identify when he is wrong? I suggest that you analyze what he says and investigate it for yourself. Otherwise, you seem willing to accept as 'gospel' whatever he suggests or insinuates. That is a sheep mentality.
You tell me where he has been correct...and identify the sources for his claims and your support for them.
I can be convinced...but you have to prove it.
I look forward to your reply.

The people of USA didn't vote for Beck for anything, let alone a term of four years with three more to go. He's been harping his stuff for way longer than the current occupant of the White House has been in office.

Most of us -- by both popular vote (including the voters in Florida!) and electoral vote -- voted for Obama as POTUS for four years.

Obama will be held accountable in 2012...Beck will never be held accountable until his book sales, ratings and advertising dollars slump. By the way, his advertising dollars have recently been dropping.

I don't have to give Beck any more time. He's a charlatan and a self-promoter. His interest is his own wallet...his histrionics and crocodile tears are sad and pathetic. I'm sorry that you do not see through him. He's selling books, pure and simple.

This country has problems...but they are surmountable if we pull together and get off the partisan/divisive crap. Beck and his cohorts offer nothing but negative thinking...they prey on people's concerns and disappointments and stoke the fires of fear to build ratings and sell books They offer ZERO alternatives.

Beck was to reveal last Saturday here in The Villages, his plan. He presented bupkus...alluded to a 100-year plan. A 100-year plan defacto doesn't apply to us. Neither he nor we will be here to know if it worked or failed. He has outdone Mao Tse Tung with his infamous five-year and ten-year plans!

It appears that you are not happy with some things in this country's direction. I'm not either. But Glenn Beck's stuff is about him, not us.
Please think this through...for you, for me, for our children and grandchildren.

Why don't you hold off on Obama for three more years?

Sorry...you wont draw me into a conversation like this. YOU implied he was a liar...I think that is a very strong accusation and asked you to validate it...you cant.....chapter closed !

EXCELLENT - giving the homework assignment. It's usually the other way around. :pepper2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:

Sounds a little like Obama voters. :icon_wink:

Beck on Global Warming
 

Here is one for you. For years Glen Beck said that Global Warming was a Liberal hoax and nothing but another scheme to create more taxes and bigger Government.

Now that it can be shown that Beck was correct. What do you say?

So, show me how 'he is correct?'

Absolutely nothing has been shown that he's incorrect. In fact new things are coming to light such as the emails that prove numbers are being doctored and withheld by the supposed experts. Add a little common sense into the mix and the conclusion is simple. It's a scam.

I'll quote myself.

So Beck so declares on global warming and smugly says that it's a liberal thing...whatever that is supposed to mean.
I don't believe he has any science background to merit dismissing the work of climatologists around the world.
Let's wait for him to declare that the world was flat but that liberals rounded it out.

It's not a matter of what Beck says, it's pure common sense. We can't control the weather anymore that we can affect the global climate.

What we can seemingly do as humans is scam each other into believing there is a global crisis so that some are willing to pay big dollars to others to save the world.

Millions of dollars in government grants to scientists that fudge the data to keep the pay checks coming, new reasons for massive tax increases that governments collect of course, etc, etc, etc. It is a scam with a very ugly dark side.

The Scientific Evidence Discrediting Global Warming
 

If you wish a scientific presentation on the subject of global warming (AGW), I would refer you to Richard S. Lindzen, The Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). This presentation, titled Deconstructing Global Warming was made on October 26th of this year.

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...n-talk-pdf.pdf

If you wish your information packaged in a way similar to that done by Al Gore, I suggest the presentation done by Lord Christopher Monckton on October 15th of this year.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0[/ame]

If after reading Dr Lindzen’s report and watching Lord Monckton’s presentation, you still believe that there is no scientific basis for skepticism about the claims for AGW, then I will wish to discuss some excellent land I have for sale 50 miles west of Miami. Don't just read whatever comes in the newspaper or is broadcast on tv and take it as gospel. Go look up the data on the various NOAA and NASA web sites. Before you buy into Cap and Trade, look at who is backing it and why.

If Fox News is not a part of your news team, you are not getting enough information.

IMHO

Yoda
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A More Easily Understood Presentation
 

of the fate of the polar ice-cap is presented here - http://www.ijis.iarc.uaf.edu/seaice/...Ice_Extent.png

The data goes back to only 2002 since that is when AMERSE was formed as a joint project between NASA and The Japanese Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXX). The data is honest as you would expect from these two agencies. The conclusion is clear; polar ice is NOT going away.

I again urge everyone to check the source data and avoid the alarmist statements in the news media. You sell many more papers by printing that, "...Florida will soon be under water and hurricanes are growing stronger because of global warming" than you will by simply stating the truth.

Yeah, Fox claims that it is 'fair and balanced' and the 'voice of the opposition.'
Next you'll tell me that there is no contradiction in that.
Believe what you want to; you still have produced no proof.
Buy his books and continue to enrich him. You and Beck's other acolytes pay his welfare.
The polar ice cap is shrinking, the seas are rising, co2 emissions are increasing and mankind has nothing to do with it?
How blissful it all is.
P.S. Citing "Lord Monckton" is pathetic. He is not a lord (a title reserved for legitimate members of the British House of Lords) and has no science background.
He's a schill (paid for by whom?) who has been previously discredited for views on a variety of issues. Guess who dug him as an 'expert' on global warming -- your good buddy Glenn Beck.
Never let facts get in the way of telling a good story.

I take it you have not gone to the sources I suggested. Does this mean that you prefer ignorance and loud shouting to actually checking the facts?

Fact one: Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Benchley, is a British politician, business consultant, policy adviser, writer, columnist, inventor and hereditary peer.
Fact two: Lord Monckton served as Margaret Thatcher’s science advisor – providing him with a significantly stronger scientific background than Al Gore.
Fact three: Lord Monckton was well known, as were his views, long before any of us heard of Glenn Beck.
Fact four: The seas are not rising any faster than they have for the last few thousand years.
Fact five: Al Gore has gone on record saying that he deliberately overstated the case for global warming –in other words – lied.
Fact six: The concept for cap and trade was developed by Enron and first presented to then President Clinton and VP Gore in a White House meeting by none other than Ken Lay.
Fact seven: Al Gore went on to become chairman of a London based carbon trading company that has made him a very rich man. No conflict if interest here?! Follow the money, as people often say.

Take time to read Professor Lindzen’s presentation. Go back and look at the data on total sea ice. Then tell me again where I am in error and provide data to support your views.

"Lord" Monckton is neither a lord (never elected to Britain's House of Lords) nor a scientist and his pitch has been widely read and discredited.

Does anyone know
 

Why Liberals believe all the lies about Global Warming But Conservatives do not ?

Because they put their faith in government. I find it fascinating they won't believe a thing Beck or Limbaugh says but put total faith and believing into what politicians say.

Election to the House of Lords is not required for a hereditary peerage. You say he has been discredited -'show me the DATA'! I know it's hard for a liberal to understand, but saying the same thing time after time without facts to back you up is less than convincing.

Why is it that distinguished meteorolgists/scientists like Lindzen don't get any press time? My opinion is that the warming crowd doesn't want any debate, period. When there is debate, we can then make intelligent decisions regarding whether the warming is really caused by man. Until then, it will continue to appear to be a poltical movement only.

Seriously???
 

DK, if you can't put any faith in your government, you're in the wrong country. I hope you turn down your S.S. Check and Medicare when you're eligible. Make a real statement, not just a word fest! :mornincoffee:

How glib of you. I'll not take what I haven't paid into my whole life and I don't put my faith in any government in any country. My faith comes from elsewhere and my security come from self reliance. I don't look to others to pay my bills, buy my cars or feed my family. Stay out of my bank account with your bleeding heart liberal social programs.

If the feds want to give me a life long refund of the money they've already confiscated I'll gladly opt-out. A word fest is all liberals have because everything they try is an abject bankrupt social failure.