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My Post 04-26-2018 02:52 PM

Cosby guilty
 
Bill Cosby found guilty on all three counts.
Thoughts?

billethkid 04-26-2018 03:02 PM

We will now wait and see how justice treats the rich and famous sentencing!

CFrance 04-26-2018 03:12 PM

He seemed like such a good man back in the days of his tv show. Another role model falls/disappoints.

My Post 04-26-2018 04:01 PM

I agree. I know for a fact he did a ton of USO work over the years. Walter Reed, etc. Donated a lot of money. But of course, you can't be drugging women. Or anyone.

Madelaine Amee 04-26-2018 04:11 PM

We watched his programs and loved them. Never for one moment would have believed he was involved in something as repulsive as this. Surely, a man as famous and wealthy as him could have had all the sex he wanted without having to stoop to this level. From a female point of view, I cannot imagine a man wanting to have intimate relations with a drugged incapacitated body.

I see this in a very different light - race relations are bad enough, and to have a person of this stature brought down in such a way, just makes things worse and worse for people of color trying to survive in this world.

My Post 04-26-2018 04:20 PM

I can see that point Madelaine. A lot of African Americans, on twitter right now, are wondering why Harvey Weinstein, who has multiple credible rape accusations in multiple states, has not even been arrested yet. Bags of money passing around?

NotGolfer 04-26-2018 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by My Post (Post 1537338)
I can see that point Madelaine. A lot of African Americans, on twitter right now, are wondering why Harvey Weinstein, who has multiple credible rape accusations in multiple states, has not even been arrested yet. Bags of money passing around?

BUT...there was O.J. Simpson who came across as a like-able individual. I HATE how everything gets politicized etc. Harvey Weinstein "will" get his one day...there's a court of a higer power after all.....one way or another. Sad that it hasn't already!!!

600th Photo Sq 04-26-2018 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by My Post (Post 1537308)
Bill Cosby found guilty on all three counts.
Thoughts?

Excellent News !.....Finally " Allegedly " one word I absolutely cannot stand is now History in this case. :beer3:

tomwed 04-26-2018 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1537343)

Excellent News !.....Finally " Allegedly " one word I absolutely cannot stand is now History in this case. :beer3:

so they say

karostay 04-26-2018 07:08 PM

I'm Hollywood I can do anything Era has ended
HEY HEY HEY!

retiredguy123 04-26-2018 07:12 PM

I think that people who are assaulted should be required to report the incident within a reasonable time or shut up. And, if they accept money, they should abide by whatever agreement they signed. I understand that this woman received $3 million. I'm not saying that Cosby is not a bad guy, but where is the integrity of the so called victims? Why did they wait so long to report the assaults?

Stormy Daniels received money and agreed not to talk about her alleged affair with Trump. She breached that agreement big time. I was always taught to honor the agreements you make. There is too much greed and dishonesty in the world.

Henryk 04-26-2018 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1537387)
I think that people who are assaulted should be required to report the incident within a reasonable time or shut up. And, if they accept money, they should abide by whatever agreement they signed. I understand that this women received $3 million. I'm not saying that Cosby is not a bad guy, but where is the integrity of the so called victims? There is too much greed and dishonesty.

Stormy Daniels received money and agreed not to talk about her alleged affair with Trump. She breached that agreement big time. I was always taught to honor the agreements you make. There is too much greed and dishonesty in the world.

Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

ColdNoMore 04-26-2018 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1537388)
Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

I know...right? :oops:

retiredguy123 04-26-2018 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1537388)
Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

Where were they when they could have prevented other victims? I understand there were about 60 victims.

Topspinmo 04-26-2018 08:17 PM

He'll probably die of old age before he spends 1 day in prison? Lawyers and money can delay for very long time. Course will be contested and claims he was mis represented.

Topspinmo 04-26-2018 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1537388)
Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

Stormy a porn star, probably prostituted, and for sure gold digger, integrity is oxymoron used in same sentence.

Taltarzac725 04-26-2018 08:55 PM

When he lived near Reno, Nevada he had quite a reputation among the show girls there. I have seen posts by some people who used to work these nightclubs on Facebook. Someone to stay away from back then. His great reputation was a lot of marketing and the like. Of keeping that side of him really only known to people who are usually not listened to all that much.

Do not see a race angle in this. Karma got up with Bill Cosby. It will probably catch up to the others in time. A lot of this is just about $$$. Cosby was a cash cow for quite a lot of people for a while.

manaboutown 04-26-2018 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1537404)
He'll probably die of old age before he spends 1 day in prison? Lawyers and money can delay for very long time. Course will be contested and claims he was mis represented.

:agree::cus::cus::cus:

DonH57 04-26-2018 11:30 PM

Hey, Hey, Hey !

Taltarzac725 04-27-2018 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1537447)
Hey, Hey, Hey !

My late younger brother used to joke a lot about pudding pops and Bill Cosby. He was in Reno quite a bit longer
than I was and probably heard a lot of the rumors that were going around that town. Jell-O Pudding Pops Commercial with Bill Cosby '83 - YouTube

There were some casino show girls in my University of Nevada, Reno classes but I was a little too intimated by them to ever really talk to any on them. And they would not have brought up a topic like Bill Cosby, of course, in that kind of setting.

graciegirl 04-27-2018 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1537388)
Too much misogyny too, eh ?

“Integrity” of the victims??? Give me a break.

I admit to being very very shocked by this. I think there is all kinda stuff that is wrong here including his wife standing by him after ALL this infidelity and proof he drugged women .

Chatbrat 04-27-2018 08:57 AM

A close friend of mine, whose wife was a super model-her professional name was Helen Selby, (she was the legs panty hose girl), appeared on the Cosby show once, when he tried to get her to drink in the dressing room-and she refused (she doesn't drink)- he told her to get off the set and she never made another appearance--people in Hollywood knew about him the same way they knew about Weinstein

we've been waiting for the hammer to drop

vintageogauge 04-27-2018 09:12 AM

When is sentencing scheduled, I could not find that in any of the news reports. I would like to see how fair the system is by knowing whether or not he will start serving time while appeals are under way. He deserves some jail time before he meets his maker for final judgement.

Chatbrat 04-27-2018 09:29 AM

House arrest, this way the tax payers wouldn't have to pay a dime--if he violates it--put him in the worst Pa prison, in general population

tomwed 04-27-2018 09:36 AM

Did you hear the story of Brad Pitt threatening Harvey Weinstein over Gweneth Paltro? I understand why a victim would be reluctant, afraid to come forward, intimidated, wrongly ashamed. Where were the other Brad Pitts in Hollywood or the entertainment business in general? How did they avoid the angry boyfriends, fathers or brothers of the victim?

Henryk 04-27-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1537396)
Where were they when they could have prevented other victims? I understand there were about 60 victims.

I think this is all about POWER. Victims feel unable to come forward. If it hasn’t happened to you, I don’t think you can understand.

Henryk 04-27-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1537506)
When is sentencing scheduled, I could not find that in any of the news reports. I would like to see how fair the system is by knowing whether or not he will start serving time while appeals are under way. He deserves some jail time before he meets his maker for final judgement.

Sentencing is to occur in 60-90 days. The delay makes zero sense to me. He should be in jail NOW.

billethkid 04-27-2018 09:51 AM

I suspect there is another category of those taken advantage of who are content to have "paid their dues" to get to where ever it was they were wanting to get.

My Post 04-27-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1537502)
A close friend of mine, whose wife was a super model-her professional name was Helen Selby, (she was the legs panty hose girl), appeared on the Cosby show once, when he tried to get her to drink in the dressing room-and she refused (she doesn't drink)- he told her to get off the set and she never made another appearance--people in Hollywood knew about him the same way they knew about Weinstein

we've been waiting for the hammer to drop

Interesting. Is she related to Forrest Gumpel? I kid, I kid.

Former Model Accuses Bill Cosby Of Unwanted Sexual Advances

Chatbrat 04-27-2018 10:45 AM

I considered her husband a "combat" buddy of mine and when they fell on hard times,I bought them a patio villa in the Village of Buttonwood, they have moved to another state where her husband can re-jump start his screen writing career

Schaumburger 04-27-2018 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1537523)
I think this is all about POWER. Victims feel unable to come forward. If it hasn’t happened to you, I don’t think you can understand.

Thank you -- so true - this is all about power. The Golden Rule:
He who has the gold makes the rules.

Bill Cosby, once known as America's Dad, is now a convicted felon. Why would Mrs. Cosby stay with him now?

Hope Harvey Weinstein gets his day in court soon.

fw102807 04-27-2018 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1537729)
Thank you -- so true - this is all about power. The Golden Rule:
He who has the gold makes the rules.

Bill Cosby, once known as America's Dad, is now a convicted felon. Why would Mrs. Cosby stay with him now?

Hope Harvey Weinstein gets his day in court soon.

Totally agree

Taltarzac725 04-27-2018 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 1537729)
Thank you -- so true - this is all about power. The Golden Rule:
He who has the gold makes the rules.

Bill Cosby, once known as America's Dad, is now a convicted felon. Why would Mrs. Cosby stay with him now?

Hope Harvey Weinstein gets his day in court soon.

My guess is that Weinstein still has quite a lot of clout in certain circles. His day of atonement will come.

ColdNoMore 04-27-2018 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1537730)
Totally agree

Yep...me too! :thumbup:

redwitch 04-27-2018 09:03 PM

I really can’t believe that people today are still asking why the women didn’t come forward sooner. Sexual assault victims frequently feel helpless, ashamed, powerless. In the 70’s and even the 80’s, victims were blamed and rarely believed even when the assault was brutal. If you went to a man’s room, you were saying yes no matter how much you fought. And this was the case even if both the aggressor and victim were not famous. Now, imagine the male was well-known, even beloved by the populace, and you were drugged so there was no fight, no bruises .... Who would believe you? It is amazing they even found the courage to speak out when they did. Remember, Cosby was hung by his own words. He admitted under oath that he gave women Quaaludes without their consent or knowledge. Sadly for all of us who had admired him, he was and is a serial rapist. And, even more sadly, he has some pretty good arguments for appeal. There is a chance he will never spend a night in jail (a lot depends on if the judge stays execution of sentencing until the appeal is heard, which frequently occurs).

As to Stormy Daniels, her circumstances are entirely different. There was no assault, just an affair. It is obvious that this is a publicity stunt. She’ll make a lot more than the paltry $130,000 she was paid if she can get the agreement voided. She’ll make millions with interviews, book rights, a reality show or two, a possible movie, internet blogs, etc.

Schaumburger 04-27-2018 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1537746)
I really can’t believe that people today are still asking why the women didn’t come forward sooner. Sexual assault victims frequently feel helpless, ashamed, powerless. In the 70’s and even the 80’s, victims were blamed and rarely believed even when the assault was brutal. If you went to a man’s room, you were saying yes no matter how much you fought. And this was the case even if both the aggressor and victim were not famous. Now, imagine the male was well-known, even beloved by the populace, and you were drugged so there was no fight, no bruises .... Who would believe you? It is amazing they even found the courage to speak out when they did. Remember, Cosby was hung by his own words. He admitted under oath that he gave women Quaaludes without their consent or knowledge. Sadly for all of us who had admired him, he was and is a serial rapist. And, even more sadly, he has some pretty good arguments for appeal. There is a chance he will never spend a night in jail (a lot depends on if the judge stays execution of sentencing until the appeal is heard, which frequently occurs).

As to Stormy Daniels, her circumstances are entirely different. There was no assault, just an affair. It is obvious that this is a publicity stunt. She’ll make a lot more than the paltry $130,000 she was paid if she can get the agreement voided. She’ll make millions with interviews, book rights, a reality show or two, a possible movie, internet blogs, etc.

Great post - thank you.

Why would Camille Cosby stay with her husband after this? Can she really believe he is innocent? I think there is a financial motive for her to stay with him. If he does go to jail, will she stand by him? Time will tell.

redwitch 04-28-2018 12:17 AM

I doubt guilt or innocence has anything to do with Camille staying with her husband. Ditto her financial situation. She could live quite comfortably on the divorce settlement/alimony. They’ve been together for a very long time. They suffered the loss of their only son. They celebrated daughters’ graduations, marriages, grandchildren. He hasn’t assaulted anyone for a long time. It may not be easy to forgive him and his behavior has to stick in her craw for the rest of her life but he is her husband. If I’m right about her values, she’ll stand by him even if he’s in prison. She’ll visit him at least once a month, probably weekly. She’ll make sure he has whatever comforts she can get him. He’s her husband and that’s that. She’s had the better. Now she’ll endure the worst.

Personally, he would have been out of the door at the first accusation that I believed (and his deposition left no doubt about what kind of man he is) but I’m not Mrs. C. I may very well have done a Bobbitt on him before kicking him out but, again, I’m not Mrs. C.

Madelaine Amee 04-28-2018 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1537772)
I doubt guilt or innocence has anything to do with Camille staying with her husband. Ditto her financial situation. She could live quite comfortably on the divorce settlement/alimony. They’ve been together for a very long time. They suffered the loss of their only son. They celebrated daughters’ graduations, marriages, grandchildren. He hasn’t assaulted anyone for a long time. It may not be easy to forgive him and his behavior has to stick in her craw for the rest of her life but he is her husband. If I’m right about her values, she’ll stand by him even if he’s in prison. She’ll visit him at least once a month, probably weekly. She’ll make sure he has whatever comforts she can get him. He’s her husband and that’s that. She’s had the better. Now she’ll endure the worst.

Personally, he would have been out of the door at the first accusation that I believed (and his deposition left no doubt about what kind of man he is) but I’m not Mrs. C. I may very well have done a Bobbitt on him before kicking him out but, again, I’m not Mrs. C.

Redwitch your excellent writings always hit the mark for me.

As to why women will sell their souls for money, I have no idea, so alien to me and my way of thinking, but it has been going on since the beginning of time and will continue. With all the women who are willing to sell sex I cannot understand Cosby's need to drug and rape. As I said in an earlier post, you might just as well have sex with a cadaver. He must be a very disturbed character, but he fooled us all.

ColdNoMore 04-28-2018 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1537785)
Redwitch your excellent writings always hit the mark for me.

As to why women will sell their souls for money, I have no idea, so alien to me and my way of thinking, but it has been going on since the beginning of time and will continue. With all the women who are willing to sell sex I cannot understand Cosby's need to drug and rape. As I said in an earlier post, you might just as well have sex with a cadaver. He must be a very disturbed character, but he fooled us all.

:agree:

Schaumburger 04-28-2018 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1537772)
I doubt guilt or innocence has anything to do with Camille staying with her husband. Ditto her financial situation. She could live quite comfortably on the divorce settlement/alimony. They’ve been together for a very long time. They suffered the loss of their only son. They celebrated daughters’ graduations, marriages, grandchildren. He hasn’t assaulted anyone for a long time. It may not be easy to forgive him and his behavior has to stick in her craw for the rest of her life but he is her husband. If I’m right about her values, she’ll stand by him even if he’s in prison. She’ll visit him at least once a month, probably weekly. She’ll make sure he has whatever comforts she can get him. He’s her husband and that’s that. She’s had the better. Now she’ll endure the worst.

Personally, he would have been out of the door at the first accusation that I believed (and his deposition left no doubt about what kind of man he is) but I’m not Mrs. C. I may very well have done a Bobbitt on him before kicking him out but, again, I’m not Mrs. C.

:BigApplause:


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