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Mrs. Robinson 05-10-2018 03:07 AM

Does This "Doggy" Comment Sit Well With You?
 
I have copied the below comment verbatim, from a recent closed thread regarding what else? Dogs and their owners!

This comment was not removed by the Moderators.
Just curious . . . what do you think of this comment???


Interesting replies, most of whom don't get it. I am not attempting to make new friends with this post, and your welcome to the villages comment is late because I have now been here 17 years. My purpose is to point out leash laws, using common areas that are NOT dog parks, ENTITLED dog owners that think my yard is THEIR personal dog park. I will never understand the hubris and temerity of dog owners ASSUMING the right to walk their dogs on private property. If you are a dog owner, use YOUR yard. I respect YOUR property and would never enter uninvited. Cant use your yard? Get rid of your dog, you get all the enjoyment at home, I get your crap. THINK ABOUT IT!

fishon 05-10-2018 04:16 AM

That comment is spot on.
Thanks for posting.

ColdNoMore 05-10-2018 05:27 AM

:popcorn: :popcorn:


:D

ColdNoMore 05-10-2018 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fishon (Post 1541956)
That comment is spot on.

Thanks for posting.

But, but, but, my Fifi is perfect and I demand that you love her...as much as I do.

Taltarzac725 05-10-2018 06:11 AM

Most dog owners I know pick up after their pooch. At least the poop.

Bay Kid 05-10-2018 06:18 AM

I don't have a dog anymore, but I lived in the country at that time. When owners allow their dog to do their business in my yard they also use a bag and pick this up. BUT they never get it all, which means I better wear shoes to walk in my own yard...it just doesn't seem right....

fw102807 05-10-2018 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1541953)
I have copied the below comment verbatim, from a recent closed thread regarding what else? Dogs and their owners!

This comment was not removed by the Moderators.
Just curious . . . what do you think of this comment???


Interesting replies, most of whom don't get it. I am not attempting to make new friends with this post, and your welcome to the villages comment is late because I have now been here 17 years. My purpose is to point out leash laws, using common areas that are NOT dog parks, ENTITLED dog owners that think my yard is THEIR personal dog park. I will never understand the hubris and temerity of dog owners ASSUMING the right to walk their dogs on private property. If you are a dog owner, use YOUR yard. I respect YOUR property and would never enter uninvited. Cant use your yard? Get rid of your dog, you get all the enjoyment at home, I get your crap. THINK ABOUT IT!

I disagree but that is not going to change anything. I can see this going sideways pretty soon.

aninjamom 05-10-2018 06:31 AM

We recently walked out our front door and saw a man up IN our yard, letting his little precious pee on our flowers. This is the second person we have had to speak to about this. I understand that dogs will pee and poop on our grass near the road, but up in your landscaping? It can and does damage plants, and smells. And yes, we weekly find someone's dog poop left in our yard. It's incredibly rude and unacceptable. We have a larger dog that we walk in our own yard and clean up after. If I ever catch the lazy trespasser that doesn't clean up, we just might take a little walk with our dog and see how they like it!

fw102807 05-10-2018 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by aninjamom (Post 1541972)
We recently walked out our front door and saw a man up IN our yard, letting his little precious pee on our flowers. This is the second person we have had to speak to about this. I understand that dogs will pee and poop on our grass near the road, but up in your landscaping? It can and does damage plants, and smells. And yes, we weekly find someone's dog poop left in our yard. It's incredibly rude and unacceptable. We have a larger dog that we walk in our own yard and clean up after. If I ever catch the lazy trespasser that doesn't clean up, we just might take a little walk with our dog and see how they like it!

That is rude. We have a dog and only allow him to use our yard or common areas and always pick up after him.

Mortal1 05-10-2018 06:47 AM

That is not the point...
 
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1541965)
Most dog owners I know pick up after their pooch. At least the poop.

1)it is against the law 2)while you may pick up the poop if the owner of the yard walks through the area(whether it is poop or urine)that residue will end up in their house 3)it is AGAINST THE LAW.

Taltarzac725 05-10-2018 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1541979)
1)it is against the law 2)while you may pick up the poop if the owner of the yard walks through the area(whether it is poop or urine)that residue will end up in their house 3)it is AGAINST THE LAW.

If a Neighbor's Dog Poops in Your Yard, Can You Sue? - Law and Daily Life

I found this interesting.

fw102807 05-10-2018 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1541985)

That is very interesting but I know that in the deed restrictions there are a few feet of easements. Would that area be exempt?

ColdNoMore 05-10-2018 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1541986)
That is very interesting but I know that in the deed restrictions there are a few feet of easements. Would that area be exempt?

An 'easement' basically reserves the legal right for a utility/government entity/Etc....to enter your property.

It's still your property...and not for public use/entry. :shrug:

Nucky 05-10-2018 07:18 AM

When our last dog was alive we thoroughly drained him in our yard and then took him for a walk. There is a responsibility for owning a dog that some people will never "get". It is a shame on them, the owners either don't care or are not thinking of others.

Mleeja 05-10-2018 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1541953)
I have copied the below comment verbatim, from a recent closed thread regarding what else? Dogs and their owners!

This comment was not removed by the Moderators.
Just curious . . . what do you think of this comment???


Interesting replies, most of whom don't get it. I am not attempting to make new friends with this post, and your welcome to the villages comment is late because I have now been here 17 years. My purpose is to point out leash laws, using common areas that are NOT dog parks, ENTITLED dog owners that think my yard is THEIR personal dog park. I will never understand the hubris and temerity of dog owners ASSUMING the right to walk their dogs on private property. If you are a dog owner, use YOUR yard. I respect YOUR property and would never enter uninvited. Cant use your yard? Get rid of your dog, you get all the enjoyment at home, I get your crap. THINK ABOUT IT!

I am glad you are not my neighbor. Seem a bit bitter to me.

fw102807 05-10-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1541991)
An 'easement' basically reserves the legal right for a utility/government entity/Etc....to enter your property.

It's still your property...and not for public use/entry. :shrug:

Good to know

johnboy 05-10-2018 07:25 AM

Unfortunately when a dog is walked it does not have the ability to let it's owner know that it has to go back home to relieve it's self (again). So it does what is natural for a dog and relieves it's self again. Sometimes just walking activates the dogs ( I have to go again ) memory. As long as the poop is picked up, I see no problem with a nice walk for the pouch.

Taltarzac725 05-10-2018 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by johnboy (Post 1542000)
Unfortunately when a dog is walked it does not have the ability to let it's owner know that it has to go back home to relieve it's self (again). So it does what is natural for a dog and relieves it's self again. Sometimes just walking activates the dogs ( I have to go again ) memory. As long as the poop is picked up, I see no problem with a nice walk for the pouch.

Sounds reasonable. And all kinds of critters poop and pee on our lawns-- coyotes, feral cats, rabbits, birds, opossum, foxes, raccoons, bear, deer, alligators, etc. Usually not horses unless you are in a very rural area.

Remember some large horse poop when a carriage ride drawn by horses picked up some couple for a romantic ride around our neighborhood in Palm Harbor, Florida.

I guess that the carriage ride people got around to picking up the horse poop a few hours after they had retrieved the horses and carriage. I had had to go around the poop when going out doing errands in the car.

I often see dogs pooping on our lawn. The owners usually clean it up but probably do leave a little bit of it. And they pee. Animals do what they want often whether or not the owner keeps a very careful eye on them.

Rapscallion St Croix 05-10-2018 07:51 AM

I agree totally with the quoted comment. Regarding leash laws, yesterday, while travelling down the Springdale path from Mulberry Grove through Nancy Lopez Golf Course, I saw a lady in a cart exercising her large dog. It was off leash. A woman was walking on the path and the dog ran up and began sniffing her in a very private area. The lady was clearly uncomfortable and the gal in the cart kept telling her that it was Ok...the dog was just being friendly. Reminded me of a guy back home that I had frequent altercations with. On my evening walks, his dog would run out into the street and bark and snarl at me. The first time it happened, my instincts kicked in and I grabbed a stick from a pile of Katrina debris and got ready for the dog attack. The man was yelling that I should relax...that the dog would not harm me...relax...ignore.... I told the man that it was not my behavior that needed modifying. He never got it. That situation escalated pretty severely over time and was only resolved when the dog owner dropped dead while standing in line at the bank and his wife moved away soon after, taking "Blizzard" with her. My bottom line is this....whether it is unwanted wet nose, licking, sniffing, or any other unwanted attention from a dog or whether it is letting one's dog poop in another person's yard, it is the dog's owner not the "victim" who needs to modify their attitude and behavior. PS...please don't throw that hyperbole that 99% of dog owners are responsible at me. Jeez, not even 99% of Eagle Scouts are physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

Taltarzac725 05-10-2018 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1542012)
I agree totally with the quoted comment. Regarding leash laws, yesterday, while travelling down the Springdale path from Mulberry Grove through Nancy Lopez Golf Course, I saw a lady in a cart exercising her large dog. It was off leash. A woman was walking on the path and the dog ran up and began sniffing her in a very private area. The lady was clearly uncomfortable and the gal in the cart kept telling her that it was Ok...the dog was just being friendly. Reminded me of a guy back home that I had frequent altercations with. On my evening walks, his dog would run out into the street and bark and snarl at me. The first time it happened, my instincts kicked in and I grabbed a stick from a pile of Katrina debris and got ready for the dog attack. The man was yelling that I should relax...that the dog would not harm me...relax...ignore.... I told the man that it was not my behavior that needed modifying. He never got it. That situation escalated pretty severely over time and was only resolved when the dog owner dropped dead while standing in line at the bank and his wife moved away soon after, taking "Blizzard" with her. My bottom line is this....whether it is unwanted wet nose, licking, sniffing, or any other unwanted attention from a dog or whether it is letting one's dog poop in another person's yard, it is the dog's owner not the "victim" who needs to modify their attitude and behavior. PS...please don't throw that hyperbole that 99% of dog owners are responsible at me. Jeez, not even 99% of Eagle Scouts are physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.

Big dogs should be on a leash. That is the law in the Villages' counties.

There is a Spanish Mastiff up the street from me which is about 130 lbs. It will top off at 180 lbs when fully grown. I do hope this dog is always on the leash but it looks very powerful as a puppy. I just give it that whole area of the Loop as I would rather not take any chances. It seems like a friendly dog but at that size.... And you should see the size of this canine's poop. Massive.

It only poops in its own yard which is nice.

A few years ago a slight girl was walking a large pit bull mix or something like that which broke her wrist and then attacked a small pooch also being walked by another person though and doing a lot of damage to it. This was in one of the nearby Villages. Even with a dog on a leash there may be problems. Especially if the dog is not under control.

ColdNoMore 05-10-2018 08:08 AM

I once lived in a neighborhood where a large, unleashed, dog liked to chase anything...cars, motorcycles and even bicycles included.

Making it worse, is that the dog would follow until the car/bike stopped then act aggressive when you got out...even in your own driveway.

Although it never bit anyone, it still cared the chit out of the other people (especially the kids)...on the street.

No amount of talking to the owner seemed to make any difference, so one day I decided to teach the dog a lesson and quickly opened my car door...as I went past it while it was 'attacking.'

Alas, the dog wasn't hurt and never did change its behavior...but I did have a nice little dent in my car door. :oops:

Bjeanj 05-10-2018 08:14 AM

Here’s my opinion:

Before taking your dog for a walk, let it out in your yard to see if it needs to do its business.

When walking your dog, it should be in the street with you. There is no reason for you to be walking in the street while your dog wanders on someone’s grass. If the pavement is too hot, don’t walk the dog. If it has to poop, it should poop in the street, after which you should pick it up. If it pees in the street, not much you can do until the rain washes it away. Dog pee kills grass.

Your dog must be on leash off your property unless it’s at a dog park.

Taltarzac725 05-10-2018 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1542024)
I once lived in a neighborhood where a large, unleashed, dog liked to chase anything...cars, motorcycles and even bicycles included.

Making it worse, is that the dog would follow until the car/bike stopped then act aggressive when you got out...even in your own driveway.

Although it never bit anyone, it still cared the chit out of the other people (especially the kids)...on the street.

No amount of talking to the owner seemed to make any difference, so one day I decided to teach the dog a lesson and quickly opened my car door...as I went past it while it was 'attacking.'

Alas, the dog wasn't hurt and never did change its behavior...but I did have a nice little dent in my car door. :oops:

There was a chihuahua that did that in a neighborhood in Reno often when I was biking through. I would just lift my feet and coast past it.

Mortal1 05-10-2018 09:05 AM

That would be a no....
 
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Originally Posted by fw102807 (Post 1541986)
That is very interesting but I know that in the deed restrictions there are a few feet of easements. Would that area be exempt?

"easements" on a persons property are for the utility and emergency vehicles. Not a pet or person wandering around.

Mortal1 05-10-2018 09:10 AM

It is the owners...
 
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 1542008)
Sounds reasonable. And all kinds of critters poop and pee on our lawns-- coyotes, feral cats, rabbits, birds, opossum, foxes, raccoons, bear, deer, alligators, etc. Usually not horses unless you are in a very rural area.

Remember some large horse poop when a carriage ride drawn by horses picked up some couple for a romantic ride around our neighborhood in Palm Harbor, Florida.

I guess that the carriage ride people got around to picking up the horse poop a few hours after they had retrieved the horses and carriage. I had had to go around the poop when going out doing errands in the car.

I often see dogs pooping on our lawn. The owners usually clean it up but probably do leave a little bit of it. And they pee. Animals do what they want often whether or not the owner keeps a very careful eye on them.

job to be in charge...not the pet. A dog can and will hold it till it's let go. If the dog won't go on it's owners lawn that is the owners problem and if necessary should head to a common area for the dog to do it's business. There is no excuse for letting a dog do it's business on private property.

Taltarzac725 05-10-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1542068)
job to be in charge...not the pet. A dog can and will hold it till it's let go. If the dog won't go on it's owners lawn that is the owners problem and if necessary should head to a common area for the dog to do it's business. There is no excuse for letting a dog do it's business on private property.

These dog poop threads do seem to go on and on. These people sure are passionate about dog poop.

Polar Bear 05-10-2018 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1542068)
job to be in charge...not the pet. A dog can and will hold it till it's let go. If the dog won't go on it's owners lawn that is the owners problem and if necessary should head to a common area for the dog to do it's business. There is no excuse for letting a dog do it's business on private property.

Yep.

graciegirl 05-10-2018 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1542079)
Yep.

Here is the difficulty. Most people are responsible, were responsible with their children and are now responsible for their pets. Some people are not fond of having small children around and some people don't like any dogs at all, even those that do not go on their lawn and stay in their own yard.

I think we must realize to be very careful to not invade another's space with our pets and try to encourage our children to teach their children to behave in ways that others find some enjoyment in them. Try to put ourselves in the frame of mind of those complaining. TRY to understand their point of view and do not trespass on their property. They don't know or love our pets and may not if they did know them. They have a right to not have to step in poo on their own land.

John_W 05-10-2018 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Robinson (Post 1541953)
This comment was not removed by the Moderators.
Just curious . . . what do you think of this comment???


...I have now been here 17 years. My purpose is to point out leash laws, using common areas that are NOT dog parks, ENTITLED dog owners that think my yard is THEIR personal dog park. I will never understand the hubris and temerity of dog owners ASSUMING the right to walk their dogs on private property. If you are a dog owner, use YOUR yard. I respect YOUR property and would never enter uninvited. Cant use your yard? Get rid of your dog, you get all the enjoyment at home, I get your crap. THINK ABOUT IT!

I don't know what they said that was so wrong to make you believe this should of been deleted. It's a poster giving their personal opinion, and because you don't agree it should be removed. I'm glad you reposted it, because I missed it the first time. I agree completely and I've owned many dogs in my life.

bob47 05-10-2018 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1542114)
Here is the difficulty. Most people are responsible, were responsible with their children and are now responsible for their pets. Some people are not fond of having small children around and some people don't like any dogs at all, even those that do not go on their lawn and stay in their own yard.

I think we must realize to be very careful to not invade another's space with our pets and try to encourage our children to teach their children to behave in ways that others find some enjoyment in them. Try to put ourselves in the frame of mind of those complaining. TRY to understand their point of view and do not trespass on their property. They don't know or love our pets and may not if they did know them. They have a right to not have to step in poo on their own land.

A wonderfully reasoned reply.

We have a cat. Some people don't like cats. I don't know why but it doesn't matter. Nobody has to have any interaction with out cat unless they choose to come into our home.

tomwed 05-10-2018 08:36 PM

"Does This "Doggy" Comment Sit Well With You?"
I think the fact that he talks at all is quite remarkable.

ColdNoMore 05-10-2018 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1542341)
"Does This "Doggy" Comment Sit Well With You?"
I think the fact that he talks at all is quite remarkable.

Imagine if your dog turned to you, said "no one will ever believe you"...and never spoke again.

CFrance 05-11-2018 08:04 AM

Keep your dog on the street and off of other people's grass. It's easy. You have the (hopefully not extendable) leash; you are the boss. Take control. For the life of me, I don't understand why, when so many people in TV HATE having others' dogs walking on their yard, dog owners would let that happen.

If you pick up after your dog, you are welcome to let it walk on our yard. But most people don't want that, so assume nobody does unless they tell you it's okay. I will let you know what our new address is when we get it, and Crosby will show your dog the best spots. But bring a bag.

427dave 05-11-2018 08:24 AM

Where we lived before one of the neighbors had a sheep dog, she walked it and let it take a poop in the middle of our driveway. I ask her what she was going to do about that and she said nothing, therefore I retrieved a shovel, scooped it up, took it to her house and placed it at the front door. She never walked our way again, said there was crazy man on that end of the street. She was a college professor at the local college and just did not get it.

Here in the Villages a few weeks ago I was at Walgreen's and a woman let her dog take a poop right in front of the door. I ask her what she was going to do about that and she said she didn't have anything to pick it up with. I said I have your picture and will be turning it over the the police, she came back with a tissue and picked it up from the clean end and placed it in the trash can. I just don't get some people, are they that stupid!

bilcon 05-11-2018 08:38 AM

You are probably only one of 5 out of thousands that does that. I love the way dog owners walk around with a bag of dog .... in their hand and then when no one is looking they throw it down the drain. Guess where it ends up? In the golf course ponds. Lovely.

RedChariot 05-11-2018 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 427dave (Post 1542426)
Where we lived before one of the neighbors had a sheep dog, she walked it and let it take a poop in the middle of our driveway. I ask her what she was going to do about that and she said nothing, therefore I retrieved a shovel, scooped it up, took it to her house and placed it at the front door. She never walked our way again, said there was crazy man on that end of the street. She was a college professor at the local college and just did not get it.

Here in the Villages a few weeks ago I was at Walgreen's and a woman let her dog take a poop right in front of the door. I ask her what she was going to do about that and she said she didn't have anything to pick it up with. I said I have your picture and will be turning it over the the police, she came back with a tissue and picked it up from the clean end and placed it in the trash can. I just don't get some people, are they that stupid!

I think I love you.💟

NotGolfer 05-11-2018 09:07 AM

It amazes me how sensitive folks get! If they are in compliance than it shouldn't be an issue.

thetruth 05-11-2018 09:12 AM

An edless debate
 
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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1542068)
job to be in charge...not the pet. A dog can and will hold it till it's let go. If the dog won't go on it's owners lawn that is the owners problem and if necessary should head to a common area for the dog to do it's business. There is no excuse for letting a dog do it's business on private property.

It was mentioned about horses. Actually it not at all the same. A horse eats plant matter-grass, grain. You cannot catch diseases from it.

Dogs on the other hand eat meat and can transfer diseases. Others have suggested having YOUR DOG releive itself on YOUR PROPERTY. First of all tyhe dog due to INSTINCT will not go where it lives. THE DOG BY NATURE-SAME AS YOUR NEIGHBORS KNOWS IT IS UNSANITARY.

I like dogs. I do not own one.

FOR ALL OF US-A my dad used to say, YOUR RIGHTS END WHERE THE OTHER PERSONS RIGHTS BEGIN. Simple line that answers the most complex issues. RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS.

thetruth 05-11-2018 09:26 AM

We unfortunately only note the pigs
 
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Originally Posted by 427dave (Post 1542426)
Where we lived before one of the neighbors had a sheep dog, she walked it and let it take a poop in the middle of our driveway. I ask her what she was going to do about that and she said nothing, therefore I retrieved a shovel, scooped it up, took it to her house and placed it at the front door. She never walked our way again, said there was crazy man on that end of the street. She was a college professor at the local college and just did not get it.

Here in the Villages a few weeks ago I was at Walgreen's and a woman let her dog take a poop right in front of the door. I ask her what she was going to do about that and she said she didn't have anything to pick it up with. I said I have your picture and will be turning it over the the police, she came back with a tissue and picked it up from the clean end and placed it in the trash can. I just don't get some people, are they that stupid!

As to that lady at Walgreens. I would bet she then went into the store WITHOUT WASHING HER HANDS and shopped.
Weeks ago, I saw a guy with a miniature whit poodle. The dog took a right in the middle of the walkway at the Brownwood farmers market. He pretended he didn't know.
Someone else came along and stepped in it.

Of course it is disgusting. Instant replay-should he have picked it up and then continued handling FOOD?

I don't know what the law is. I DO KNOW THAT COMMON SENSE AND DECENCY MEANS YOUR DOG DOES NOT BELONG THERE.

thetruth 05-11-2018 09:36 AM

That is another more important issue
 
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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1542280)
I don't know what they said that was so wrong to make you believe this should of been deleted. It's a poster giving their personal opinion, and because you don't agree it should be removed. I'm glad you reposted it, because I missed it the first time. I agree completely and I've owned many dogs in my life.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH-freedom of speech is most important when you do not agree with what is being said.
In my opinion, in recent years we have allowed mobs. Yes mobs even in formerly respected colleges to prevent others from speaking.


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