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champion6 07-10-2018 09:18 PM

TV Will Build for At Least 20-30 Years + 4th Town Square
 
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This plan (VOSO exhibit A) for the construction of roads was approved by Sumter County. An agreement between The Villages and Sumter County was reviewed and approved at the SC Board of County Commissioners meeting.

The agreement specifies a town square will be located in Sumter County, but not the location.

In addition to the massive size of the plans, I see these interesting items:
  • Buena Vista Blvd will be extended south of 44. It will connect to Meggison Rd which will extend into Lake County.
  • There will be roads connecting 301 to TV just south of the turnpike and south of Coleman.
  • A road will cross the turnpike south of the Okahumpka service area. Presumably the existing cattle bridge will be converted to a golf cart bridge and a vehicle bridge will be built next to it.
The roads planned for south of 470 give an indication of how far south TV will build. I know one thing ... I will be six feet under before build-out is complete.

ColdNoMore 07-10-2018 09:44 PM

I'm sure Da Family has more mouths to feed...every year. :shrug:

Chatbrat 07-10-2018 10:55 PM

In 20-30 years most people currently on this forum won't be here to care about anything--not our concern what the developers do-unless Morse Blv'd & Buena Vista- start to look like the LIE

Goldwingnut 07-10-2018 11:17 PM

So these new drawings show growth plans for another 20+ square miles beyond what we knew about up until this morning. One could extrapolate this to be another 50,000 homes south of CR470, or tripling the current size of TV in the next 30+ years. Pretty amazing plans, it will be interesting to watch it happen.

Nice find Champion6!

vintageogauge 07-11-2018 03:36 AM

This is quite amazing. How many privately owned developers in this country do you feel have as much in the works as this family. To have this many square miles of land ready to go, a project to last decades, is quite remarkable.

Gpsma 07-11-2018 05:30 AM

Just in time for Millenials to retire here.

dewilson58 07-11-2018 07:27 AM

That's a lot of room for dog poop.

Rapscallion St Croix 07-11-2018 08:23 AM

Living in the Marion County portion of TV, this news is almost like hearing about a development in another state. I cannot imagine ever visiting the new square after we take the curiosity windshield tour...if we are still kicking.

eweissenbach 07-11-2018 08:46 AM

Harold is upstairs saying, "what the hell happened to my trailer park?"

Goldwingnut 07-11-2018 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1561443)
Harold is upstairs saying, "what the hell happened to my trailer park?"

You're kidding, right? This was all a part of his plans, the details may not have been all worked out, but his plans none the less. He and his son were busy buying up farmland in the 90's and 2000's that made up TV between CR466 and SR44, you don't jump into such a massive venture without a well thought out plan. This latest tidbit of information is just a glimpse into some of the even longer term thinking they were doing back then.

eweissenbach 07-11-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1561476)
You're kidding, right? This was all a part of his plans, the details may not have been all worked out, but his plans none the less. He and his son were busy buying up farmland in the 90's and 2000's that made up TV between CR466 and SR44, you don't jump into such a massive venture without a well thought out plan. This latest tidbit of information is just a glimpse into some of the even longer term thinking they were doing back then.

No disrespect to Mr. Schwartz but most people agree that Harold was not that big a thinker. Harold's vision was a mobile home community with amenities. It was not until he brought son Gary in that the vision expanded. Anyway - who knows? All I know is it is nothing like the Orange Blossom Gardens it originally set out to be.

dewilson58 07-11-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1561479)
No disrespect to Mr. Schwartz but most people agree that Harold was not that big a thinker. Harold's vision was a mobile home community with amenities. It was not until he brought son Gary in that the vision expanded. Anyway - who knows? All I know is it is nothing like the Orange Blossom Gardens it originally set out to be.

And people use to like the Model T.

ColdNoMore 07-11-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1561480)
And people use to like the Model T.

Until they didn't...or wanted a red one. :D

Chi-Town 07-11-2018 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1561443)
Harold is upstairs saying, "what the hell happened to my trailer park?"

Here it is. ....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8420b20ac5.jpg

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Marathon Man 07-11-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1561494)
Here it is. ....

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Love it.

Marathon Man 07-11-2018 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1561479)
No disrespect to Mr. Schwartz but most people agree that Harold was not that big a thinker. Harold's vision was a mobile home community with amenities. It was not until he brought son Gary in that the vision expanded. Anyway - who knows? All I know is it is nothing like the Orange Blossom Gardens it originally set out to be.

Correct. While Harold is credited as the founder, it was Gary who had the vision and made The Villages what it is today. And to those that believe that Harold is spinning in his grave at what the community has become, keep in mind that he was there when the big expansion south began. Spinning? Maybe. I think it is from total pride in his family.

justjim 07-11-2018 03:05 PM

On our first visit to TV, we had the pleasure of meeting Harold Schwartz. It was in the mid 90’s prior to our retirement. It was also prior to the building of the hospital. New houses were all “stick/block” built then. Mr. Schwartz was very personable as he greeted us in the sales office @ Spanish Springs. It was our pleasure to shake his hand and briefly speak to him.

We are sorry we never met Gary Morse. I’ve no idea how much future planning they might have done together, but the two seem to compliment one another. I would say both of them would be very proud of what is taking place these days in The Villages.

EdFNJ 07-11-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1561494)
Here it is. ....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8420b20ac5.jpg

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WOW ...... what year was that from?

kcrazorbackfan 07-11-2018 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eweissenbach (Post 1561443)
Harold is upstairs saying, "what the hell happened to my trailer park?"

Hahahahahahaha

Schaumburger 07-11-2018 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1561385)
So these new drawings show growth plans for another 20+ square miles beyond what we knew about up until this morning. One could extrapolate this to be another 50,000 homes south of CR470, or tripling the current size of TV in the next 30+ years. Pretty amazing plans, it will be interesting to watch it happen.

Nice find Champion6!

Goldwingnut, keep your drone in good shape. I think you will be able to use it to fly over the expansion of The Villages for quite some time.

Chi-Town 07-11-2018 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1561556)
WOW ...... what year was that from?

Not quite sure.

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Laker14 07-12-2018 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1561494)
Here it is. ....

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What a stupid idea. It will never fly.

B-flat 07-12-2018 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1561436)
Living in the Marion County portion of TV, this news is almost like hearing about a development in another state. I cannot imagine ever visiting the new square after we take the curiosity windshield tour...if we are still kicking.

Plus 1.

ColdNoMore 07-12-2018 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1561494)

I like the "Perma-Mobile" part. :D


Is that kinda like a 'Fast-Stationary' car? :1rotfl:

2BNTV 07-12-2018 09:25 AM

Like the man once said, "build out is a myth".

Harold Schwartz and Al Tarrson started TV and Harold bought out Al and subsequently brought he son, Harold "Gary Morse", to help in the building of TV.

Gary was the visionary and his family is continuing his legacy. I never thought TV would grow to be this big but what the heck do I know. :smiley:

As the population ages and more and more people are ready to retire, the Morse family is filling a great need. IMHO

patfla06 07-12-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1561399)
Just in time for Millenials to retire here.

Well my Millenial Son will inherit our house so maybe he
should hold onto it for his retirement in 30 years!??

tomwed 07-12-2018 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1561700)
Well my Millenial Son will inherit our house so maybe he
should hold onto it for his retirement in 30 years!??

In 30 years what part of the villages be considered the historical part of town? Anywhere above Brownwood?

queasy27 07-12-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1561436)
I cannot imagine ever visiting the new square after we take the curiosity windshield tour...if we are still kicking.

I'll be quite happy just watching the V-Mail videos that cover the construction!

(Confession: I still haven't even been to Brownwood.)

rustyp 07-12-2018 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1561700)
Well my Millenial Son will inherit our house so maybe he
should hold onto it for his retirement in 30 years!??

In 30 years they will be tearing your house down and instituting the revitalization program in your neighborhood.

ColdNoMore 07-12-2018 10:13 AM

I heard from a very reliable source, that 'build-out' is definitely going to be August 14.......








.........2059





Can't wait. :D

Chi-Town 07-12-2018 10:17 AM

Baby Boomers. 1946 - 1964

Generation X. 1965 - 1981

Millennials. 1982 - 2000

Looks like Gen X is next up for The Villages (after The Baby Boomer run).

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2BNTV 07-12-2018 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1561716)
I heard from a very reliable source, that 'build-out' is definitely going to be August 14.......








.........2059





Can't wait. :D

Funny stuff!

Rapscallion St Croix 07-12-2018 11:04 AM

I wish that somewhere along the way they would find a place for deeded luxury RV lots.

ColdNoMore 07-12-2018 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 1561732)
I wish that somewhere along the way they would find a place for deeded luxury RV lots.

While I'm personally not too keen on a 'deeded' park, I've wondered many times...why they haven't built a high-end/luxury RV park nearby. :shrug:

Keep it at around 100 luxurious spots, make it golf cart accessible, require a minimum motor-home/5th wheel size and age...then limit the stay to a couple of weeks or less.

I would think that with those requirements (maybe even a few more?), it would attract exactly the kind of demographic...to which TV likes to market.

It would make it easy for those RV'ers traveling around and who could afford to purchase here, to stop for a bit...and get an idea of what TV is all about.

I don't know what the current cost of a 'Lifestyle Visit' is (to the visitor and/or TV), but I'm guessing that an RV park as described...would at least pay for itself.

And of course, all rents would be refunded...with a purchase. :ho:


15 best Luxury RV Resorts

Packer Fan 07-12-2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1561719)
Baby Boomers. 1946 - 1964

Generation X. 1965 - 1981

Millennials. 1982 - 2000

Looks like Gen X is next up for The Villages (after The Baby Boomer run).

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I have never agreed with that split, I was born in 1963, and I have nothing in common with the majority of boomers whose teen years were - MLK, Kennedy assasination, Viet Nam, Hippies, and the Beatles. Mine was more like - Moon Landing, watergate, bicentennial, Disco, Star Wars, REO Speedwagon, Inflation, and Ronald Reagan's election. Totally different. I definitely identify way more with Gen X than Baby Boom.
I guess the main issue is that the generations are too long... I doubt someone born in 1982 vs 2000 is way different too...

My Post 07-12-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1561768)
I definitely identify way more with Gen X than Baby Boom.

It comes down to this Pack Fan, did you like Nirvana or not?

Rapscallion St Croix 07-12-2018 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Packer Fan (Post 1561768)
I have never agreed with that split, I was born in 1963, and I have nothing in common with the majority of boomers whose teen years were - MLK, Kennedy assasination, Viet Nam, Hippies, and the Beatles. Mine was more like - Moon Landing, watergate, bicentennial, Disco, Star Wars, REO Speedwagon, Inflation, and Ronald Reagan's election. Totally different. I definitely identify way more with Gen X than Baby Boom.
I guess the main issue is that the generations are too long... I doubt someone born in 1982 vs 2000 is way different too...

Hey, quit appropriating my generational events.:D You were only six for the moon landing. Only the first one counts. I watched it on black and white TV while in a 24 hour long acey deucy game in the basement of an MP station in Berlin. I still have the IOUs somewhere just in case I ever run into those welchers again.

photo1902 07-12-2018 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1561743)
While I'm personally not too keen on a 'deeded' park, I've wondered many times...why they haven't built a high-end/luxury RV park nearby. :shrug:

Keep it at around 100 luxurious spots, make it golf cart accessible, require a minimum motor-home/5th wheel size and age...then limit the stay to a couple of weeks or less.

I would think that with those requirements (maybe even a few more?), it would attract exactly the kind of demographic...to which TV likes to market.

It would make it easy for those RV'ers traveling around and who could afford to purchase here, to stop for a bit...and get an idea of what TV is all about.

I don't know what the current cost of a 'Lifestyle Visit' is (to the visitor and/or TV), but I'm guessing that an RV park as described...would at least pay for itself.

And of course, all rents would be refunded...with a purchase. :ho:


15 best Luxury RV Resorts

Can they build this behind your house?

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-12-2018 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1561376)
In 20-30 years most people currently on this forum won't be here to care about anything--not our concern what the developers do-unless Morse Blv'd & Buena Vista- start to look like the LIE

In 20-30 years your kids will be looking for a place to retire. It's possible that in 20-30 years, your kids will already have done so, and will be living in The Villages.

What legacy do you wish to leave your children?

asianthree 07-12-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1561809)
In 20-30 years your kids will be looking for a place to retire. It's possible that in 20-30 years, your kids will already have done so, and will be living in The Villages.

What legacy do you wish to leave your children?

Gen-X and millennials are already buying here.


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