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Topspinmo 09-21-2018 11:45 AM

A/C condensation drain clean out
 
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OK. Another project I completed. My ac condensation drain that runs down under garage floor and out by the ac unit was pretty much plugged up. I first tried my garden hose attachment that I made up. But, the y-tee was too close to the top and was back flowing up towards the A coil drain box and wouldn’t build up enough pressure to blow out the drain line.

I cut out section of the drain, Installed shut off valve and the Y-Fitting below the cut off valve. Now when I hooked up the garden hose I got full 60 or PSI from city water pressure. This blew out all sorts of crud that built up over 13 years or so period since the house was built.

I simply turn the cut off vale to closed, remove the plug in the y-fitting, install the hose adapter, connect the water hose and turn it on. Go to ac unit where the drain located and watch flow blasting out. Go back turn the water off, open the cut off valve, remove hose and adapter, install the y-fitting plug. Works like champ! :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Joeg180 09-21-2018 12:59 PM

Nice!

Tom C 09-21-2018 01:06 PM

Very nice, simple, inexpensive solution that (almost) everyone can do on their own. Those that are not able to do it themselves, can ask other handy-people to do for then at low cost and quickly installed.

Congrats! GREAT POSTING!

theorem painter 09-21-2018 02:38 PM

Dumb question here! How do you know if your ac condensation drain is plugged?

Ecuadog 09-21-2018 03:50 PM

It's a thing of beauty.

rjm1cc 09-21-2018 03:50 PM

Very good solution and I probably never would have though of it in a million years.
I do use vinegar once a month and have not had the problem.

It would make sence to me that the builder includes your solution in all homes.

photo1902 09-21-2018 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rjm1cc (Post 1583467)
Very good solution and I probably never would have though of it in a million years.
I do use vinegar once a month and have not had the problem.

It would make sence to me that the builder includes your solution in all homes.

Exactly. Twice a year cleaning with vinegar avoids any problems

Topspinmo 09-21-2018 04:09 PM

Sally, no it not. Majority don’t know how the system works.

If you go outside usually beside the ac unit there will be PVC white pipe sticking up usually with curved portion end. On hot muggy day condensation from the A COIL inside you a/c heat unit in the garage has to drain condensation off. It goes from the bottom of the catch pan below the A coil out to white PVC drain pipes. not away’s The S curve can be seen (mine is underground, not visible) The S curve keeps critters and smell from backing up into you ac unit. This usually where crud (dust and rust) forms or at the up elbow outside and narrows the drain capability (the slow but steady drip drip at the outside by the unit. Over years it can buidup enough to back up into the ac/heat unit which you will see moisture where you never seen it before.

Can put chemical (usually white vinegar) down the access y-fitting as shown in pictures to minimize the buildup deposits (crud as described). But, nothing good as pressure flush) Most familiar with the system operation will flush it out every few years or if older house with unknown condition. Basically to keep the drain system draining properly.

Topspinmo 09-21-2018 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1583468)
Exactly. Twice a year cleaning with vinegar avoids any problems

IMO Pouring vinegar down may reduce growth, but on older units over time dust and rust builds up from years migrating down from the A-coil. Majority don’t live in house 10 to 15 years plus long enough to experience problem. It’s usually the 2nd or 3rd owners.

photo1902 09-21-2018 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1583476)
IMO Pouring vinegar down may reduce growth, but on older units over time dust and rust builds up from years migrating down from the A-coil. Majority don’t live in house 10 to 15 years plus long enough to experience problem. It’s usually the 2nd or 3rd owners.

Definitely a valid concern when you don’t know what you’re inheriting.

Tom C 09-21-2018 04:22 PM

Just be sure the water hose adapter push-on fitting does not back out of the Y when the water pressure is applied .... it could end up chasing you!

Topspinmo 09-21-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom C (Post 1583478)
Just be sure the water hose adapter push-on fitting does not back out of the Y when the water pressure is applied .... it could end up chasing you!

Fits pretty tight, I make sure I push it down all the way! so far no problems :pray: I also have gauge so I know what water pressure is. In my area runs 55 to 60 depending on time of day.

kcrazorbackfan 09-21-2018 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by theorem painter (Post 1583436)
Dumb question here! How do you know if your ac condensation drain is plugged?

Your drain should have a shut off float that shuts off the A/C if the drain becomes clogged; ours happened while gone for a few days. Poured hot water and vinegar into the drain, let it sit for about 5 minutes then I took my wet/dry shop vac and sucked all the gunk out from the outside end of the drain line.

NoMoSno 09-21-2018 08:53 PM

I just use the shop-vac method, like the service people do.

Topspinmo 09-21-2018 09:53 PM

Evidently you live in recently new home. On homes that 10 years or more that haven’t been maintained I doubt the shop vac going pull stuff stuck to walls of the pvc pipe? My method takes about 4 mins.

Topspinmo 09-21-2018 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1583547)
Your drain should have a shut off float that shuts off the A/C if the drain becomes clogged; ours happened while gone for a few days. Poured hot water and vinegar into the drain, let it sit for about 5 minutes then I took my wet/dry shop vac and sucked all the gunk out from the outside end of the drain line.

How old is you’re house? Unless the float in the catch tray inside the unit I see none on my trane xr12.

rjn5656 09-22-2018 07:08 AM

I flush mine monthly during the hot summer months. Also, after flushing, I put my shop vac on the pipe outside and suck what is remaining out.

thetruth 10-04-2018 10:53 AM

Re: Ac drain line service
 
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1583468)
Exactly. Twice a year cleaning with vinegar avoids any problems

This issue has been often debated. I've heard BLEACH. I've heard VINEGAR. I've heard you should use nothing but WATER as bleach or vinegar damages both the AC coils and the dranin pipe.

All home may not be set up the same. Our home is five years old and we have an original extension on the end of the drain line where it connects to the equipment in the garage. Easy and quick. Once a month I pull off the plastic cap on the end of the pipe insert a funnel and pour warm/hot water down the pipe. We catch the flow through water to see how dirty the tube was. The first gallon is obviously dirty-brownish yellow with some small chunks of groth in it. Second gallon is clean-clear water not chunks-DONE. Once a year we have a periodic tune up. The service guy hooks up a wet dry vacuum to the line and pulls the water out.

They send out ONE person. According to a radio show I listen to, it cannot be properly done that way. Once he pulls the watr out all he is doing is sucking air through the line. The right way to do it is to add watter while the vacuum is runngin. So far no problems.

ASIDE-everything has a normal service life. On your AC the capacitor lasts about 4 years. The compressor about 14 years. All of your ACs are mareked with the SEER# a mathematical calculation of efficientcy. Ours is 15. I expect there are still some homes with 7 in the villages. Today 18 is readily available. The numbers and what they mean few understand-including me. I've been told by a claimed expert if I changed from 15 to18-roughly 30% my cooling bill would go down like 10%-HUH?

John_W 10-04-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by theorem painter (Post 1583436)
Dumb question here! How do you know if your ac condensation drain is plugged?

I had it happen once, it was in 1992 and that's how I found out about maintenance. My A/C was in the laundry room in the basement and on the other side was a family room with carpeting. One day I walked into the FR and the carpet was wet. Traced the water back to the A/C and called a repairment. He told me then about bleach, which I used for many years until switching to vinegar last year. Occasionally I bring the water hose into the garage and flush it out with the fast sprayer. Our A/C unit is not enclosed in the garage and it's very easy to see the pipe.

JTClark45 10-04-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thetruth (Post 1587326)
All of your ACs are mareked with the SEER# a mathematical calculation of efficientcy. Ours is 15. I expect there are still some homes with 7 in the villages. Today 18 is readily available. The numbers and what they mean few understand-including me. I've been told by a claimed expert if I changed from 15 to18-roughly 30% my cooling bill would go down like 10%-HUH?

Federal law requires a min of SEER of 13 and has since 2006, the standard before that was SEER 10, it was adopted in 1992. There are no SEER 8s here. They died long ago. SEER is how many BTUs per watt.

Your savings would be (in your example) 15/18 -100 HVAC savings percentage X the percentage of electricity for HVAC. Let's use my year to date useage of electricity for HVAC (since you probably don't know yours) 53.5%. Thus 16.6666 % HVAC savings X .535 or 8.916% savings on your electric bill.

Shimpy 10-04-2018 05:18 PM

I unplugged mine by using my shop wet/dry vac on the outside outlet and sucked all sorts of bad stuff out.

TV MAN 10-04-2018 05:45 PM

Just had our unit replaced and the installer said not to use bleach as just the fumes alone from it would affect the aluminum A coil which is in the new system. (No longer copper) So you need to play it safe if you are not sure which type of A coil you have. Vinager and warm water best bet. Shop vac does ot hurt. But I like the OP’s water solution with the hose as long as it does not pop out of pipe.

kcrazorbackfan 10-04-2018 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1583574)
How old is you’re house? Unless the float in the catch tray inside the unit I see none on my trane xr12.


7 years old. Carrier unit. Float in a tee in the condensation line (where the water flow turns 90* down) about 8" from the air handler unit.

Topspinmo 10-05-2018 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1587485)
7 years old. Carrier unit. Float in a tee in the condensation line (where the water flow turns 90* down) about 8" from the air handler unit.


My unit 12 years old don’t have the shutoff float.

bbbbbb 10-05-2018 12:39 PM

Air Condensate drain
 
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Originally Posted by theorem painter (Post 1583436)
Dumb question here! How do you know if your ac condensation drain is plugged?

OK When the cold coils in the Air Unit come in contact with our high humidity air, the water drops out, off the coils and goes into a pan and then to a small white PVC line to drain outside. The water goes to your plants etc.
So, you can use a wet or dry vacuum or an air line if you have a compressor, it will blow out the line. It sometimes gets plugged because it is gravitating to the outside, it can get dead bugs in it, you can put a small piece of mesh at the end. You will find it in a planter or planted area, white PVC about 3/4 diameter.
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