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Lark7 11-04-2018 06:22 AM

Whole House Water Filtration Systems
 
For those who have a whole house water filtration system, did the refrigerator water filter become redundant or do you continue to also utilize a refrigerator filter?

Thanks for your assistance.

Kahuna32162 11-04-2018 06:51 AM

We pulled it out and tossed it. Nova water filtration system does the rest.

Bay Kid 11-04-2018 07:16 AM

Love my Nova system.

MikeV 11-04-2018 07:30 AM

We have NOVA but since I bought filters in advance we are using the refrigerator filter for now. I will keep one just in case it is needed in the future.


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Debfrommaine 11-04-2018 08:00 AM

I like my Nova but we do get a lot of calcium build up on the faucets. I think we need to get another component with it.

JerryLBell 11-04-2018 08:16 AM

We got the Nova water filtration system and a new fridge about 18 months ago. We didn't bother taking the fridge filter out but will probably do so when the "change filter" light goes on. From past experience, they normally last about 6 months before that happens. However, with the filtered water coming in, it seems like the fridge filter is going to last a LONG time.

retiredguy123 11-04-2018 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryLBell (Post 1595921)
We got the Nova water filtration system and a new fridge about 18 months ago. We didn't bother taking the fridge filter out but will probably do so when the "change filter" light goes on. From past experience, they normally last about 6 months before that happens. However, with the filtered water coming in, it seems like the fridge filter is going to last a LONG time.

The refrigerator filter light comes on after a set period of time (I think it is 6 months). It has nothing to do with the condition of the filter.

junction29 11-04-2018 09:03 AM

Nova too
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeV (Post 1595905)
We have NOVA but since I bought filters in advance we are using the refrigerator filter for now. I will keep one just in case it is needed in the future.


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We have had the NOVA filter system for five years now and we have never changed the fridge system filter since we had the NOVA system fitted and as part of our drive to minimise plastic use, we always use refillable water bottles, filled from the tap on the fridge and the water always tastes great.
👍👍

mixsonci 11-04-2018 10:36 AM

I tried taking my fridge filter out, but when I did, the ice maker wouldn''t work. I tried to get a "Plug" for in place of the filter, but was told by Whirlpool that my particular model does not need a plug so there is none to buy. However, the ice maker doesn't work without. So at present I have a filter in, but really don't want to buy another filter if I don't have to, they're expensive.

Dan9871 11-04-2018 11:16 AM

Eco water.... crud and softner in one. Even with the filter eventually the fridge filter fills up. At first you don't notice but the flow drops off very slowly over time. We replaced the fridge filter after about 4 years when it was just taking too long to fill a large cup and the flow returned.

junction29 11-04-2018 11:33 AM

Whoops
 
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Originally Posted by Dan9871 (Post 1595996)
Eco water.... crud and softner in one. Even with the filter eventually the fridge filter fills up. At first you don't notice but the flow drops off very slowly over time. We replaced the fridge filter after about 4 years when it was just taking too long to fill a large cup and the flow returned.

Whoops,
We forgot to say that although we didn’t put a new fridge filter in after we had the NOVA system fitted, we didn’t leave the old one in either!

We just didn’t have one in, because if we had left it in the fridge, it would, over time, have filled up with bacteria (we think).

Better to be safe than sorry 👍👍

We have never had a problem with either slow flow rate or lack of ice, so I suppose it depends on the model you have.

CFrance 11-04-2018 06:04 PM

Our refrigerator (Whirlpool Gold French door) came with a blue plastic plug to put in place of the water filter if you have a whole-house water filtration system. We had no trouble when we replaced the fridge's water filter with the plug.

rexxfan 11-05-2018 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Debfrommaine (Post 1595913)
I like my Nova but we do get a lot of calcium build up on the faucets. I think we need to get another component with it.

A softener would help with that, I think.
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bc

rexxfan 11-05-2018 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lark7 (Post 1595892)
For those who have a whole house water filtration system, did the refrigerator water filter become redundant or do you continue to also utilize a refrigerator filter?

Thanks for your assistance.

I still use a fridge filter. If anything gets past my Nova, the fridge filter will remove (some of) it. I know, diminishing marginal returns, probably not worth the cost, but the fridge filters aren't that expensive. <shrug>
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bc

Dan9871 11-06-2018 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by rexxfan (Post 1596483)
I still use a fridge filter. If anything gets past my Nova, the fridge filter will remove (some of) it. I know, diminishing marginal returns, probably not worth the cost, but the fridge filters aren't that expensive. <shrug>
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bc

We do the same thing.

eremite06 11-06-2018 10:51 AM

I've had the Nova system for years. Lately there's been a black residue leaching into the toilet bowl. Not sure why.

CFrance 11-06-2018 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by eremite06 (Post 1596607)
I've had the Nova system for years. Lately there's been a black residue leaching into the toilet bowl. Not sure why.

Do you mind saying when the last time was that you changed the filters? I'm still investigating what system to use. Any information appreciated.

dewilson58 11-06-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1596704)
Do you mind saying when the last time was that you changed the filters? I'm still investigating what system to use. Any information appreciated.

FYI...............I use Pelican Water Systems.

CFrance 11-06-2018 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1596706)
FYI...............I use Pelican Water Systems.

Ah, thanks for another name. Do you like it, and does it soften as well as filter?

dewilson58 11-06-2018 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1596722)
Ah, thanks for another name. Do you like it, and does it soften as well as filter?

With Pelican..............You can filter, you can soften, you can do both.

Up North, I was a soft water guy. Since I've been in TV, I've gone without.........thinking I don't need it.

I really like Pelican. They have good information on their site, good reviews.

Most people in TV have Nova.............I not a good crowd follower and I never color inside the lines.

CFrance 11-06-2018 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1596725)
With Pelican..............You can filter, you can soften, you can do both.

Up North, I was a soft water guy. Since I've been in TV, I've gone without.........thinking I don't need it.

I really like Pelican. They have good information on their site, good reviews.

Most people in TV have Nova.............I not a good crowd follower and I never color inside the lines.

I just looked at their web site. Did you either install it yourself or have to get a plumber to install it?

dewilson58 11-06-2018 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1596746)
I just looked at their web site. Did you either install it yourself or have to get a plumber to install it?

Not me................I have my own leaking issues.

Pelican gave me a list of Preferred Plumbers in the area.

junction29 11-07-2018 08:44 AM

Thought Nova looked the best in quality and value
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1596748)
Not me................I have my own leaking issues.

Pelican gave me a list of Preferred Plumbers in the area.

Hi,
I looked at several Water Filter systems, when we first bought in TV, including being bored to death by hard sellers of very expensive systems, but ended up going with NOVA, because their system looked good and the price was very reasonable and the guy who started it, Bob Novak, was very knowledgable about water quality without trying to b——-t me.

His son runs the business now and even his grandson does filter replacements.

Bob’s family have a lot of Pet Stores (that he started) up in Long Island and they are specialists with fish, some of which are apparently are very fussy about water quality!

It’s a pity we can’t just drink beer like our ancestors did, when they didn’t trust water quality 😂😂🍺🍺 ahhh for the good old days 🍺🍺

CFrance 11-07-2018 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by junction29 (Post 1596926)
Hi,
I looked at several Water Filter systems, when we first bought in TV, including being bored to death by hard sellers of very expensive systems, but ended up going with NOVA, because their system looked good and the price was very reasonable and the guy who started it, Bob Novak, was very knowledgable about water quality without trying to b——-t me.

His son runs the business now and even his grandson does filter replacements.

Bob’s family have a lot of Pet Stores (that he started) up in Long Island and they are specialists with fish, some of which are apparently are very fussy about water quality!

It’s a pity we can’t just drink beer like our ancestors did, when they didn’t trust water quality 😂😂🍺🍺 ahhh for the good old days 🍺🍺

But showering in wine didn't work out so well...

eremite06 11-07-2018 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1596704)
Do you mind saying when the last time was that you changed the filters? I'm still investigating what system to use. Any information appreciated.

I replaced the filters 8-8-18.

retiredguy123 11-07-2018 02:31 PM

I can understand using a water softener to reduce calcium deposits. But, I don't understand why I would want to filter all the water in my house when most of it is used for showering and flushing the toilet. I am also concerned about the filters being a breeding place for bacteria.

photo1902 11-07-2018 03:14 PM

Brita water pitcher. $24.99.

CFrance 11-07-2018 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1597057)
Brita water pitcher. $24.99.

I use one now. Can't fill it up fast enough for all the needs and have to change the filter twice as often as they advertise. It's really a PITA if you do a lot of cooking.


We had a whole-house water filter and softener in our last house. It was such a convenience. No water spots, no fridge filters to change, no waiting for Brita to drip through and fill up a pitcher four times a day, no chlorine/salt taste in the water. No itchy patchy dry skin. Soap and shampoo lasts three times as long.



I will have another one soon.

photo1902 11-07-2018 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1597061)
I use one now. Can't fill it up fast enough for all the needs and have to change the filter twice as often as they advertise. It's really a PITA if you do a lot of cooking.


We had a whole-house water filter and softener in our last house. It was such a convenience. No water spots, no fridge filters to change, no waiting for Brita to drip through and fill up a pitcher four times a day, no chlorine/salt taste in the water. No itchy patchy dry skin. Soap and shampoo lasts three times as long.



I will have another one soon.

To each their own. I don’t need filtered water for cooking, nor does my toilet.

photo1902 11-07-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1597098)
No one told you to get one.

Thanks for the condescending reply. I’m not getting one. Only water quality I care about is how it tastes. For a whole lot less money, a Brita can take care of that requirement. Once again, I ask the question, why filter the entire house water? At $600+ for install, and $150 a year for the filter swap, I don't get it,

CFrance 11-07-2018 05:09 PM

OP, I hope your question got answered somewhere up above. I believe we had our blue plug (that you put in when not using a fridge filter) in the Whirlpool French door for two years with no slowdown of ice maker. Enjoy your clean water.

retiredguy123 11-07-2018 05:18 PM

I think I would continue using a refrigerator filter. Most filters have a Home Depot brand that is about half the cost of the name brand. And, you can extend the time between changing filters to save money.

CFrance 11-07-2018 05:54 PM

I have been told that once the filter in the fridge starts to slow down, take it out and shake it vigorously, and it will keep going.

queasy27 11-07-2018 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by eremite06 (Post 1596607)
I've had the Nova system for years. Lately there's been a black residue leaching into the toilet bowl. Not sure why.

This may not be the same issue you have, but I don't have a filtering system and get a dark mold build-up under the toilet rim. The cold water is warm in the summer while the hot tap is noticeably cooler when it first comes out of the tap. Anyway, the warmth seems to cause the mold. It's more specks of dirt than a color change when I wash it out, though.

Carla B 11-08-2018 11:28 AM

My main complaint has to do with the calcium or mineral buildup on the faucets and also the dark mold under the toilet rim. If these issues can't be eliminated by a whole-house water filter, then apparently the only benefit is the taste of the water? We have a dedicated faucet and filter at the kitchen sink and, of course, the refrigerator filter to take care of the taste issue.

What am I missing?

JSR22 11-08-2018 11:52 AM

Filtration system
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1597262)
My main complaint has to do with the calcium or mineral buildup on the faucets and also the dark mold under the toilet rim. If these issues can't be eliminated by a whole-house water filter, then apparently the only benefit is the taste of the water? We have a dedicated faucet and filter at the kitchen sink and, of course, the refrigerator filter to take care of the taste issue.

What am I missing?

Clothes coming out of the washer softer and showering and shampooing much better.

CFrance 11-08-2018 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1597262)
My main complaint has to do with the calcium or mineral buildup on the faucets and also the dark mold under the toilet rim. If these issues can't be eliminated by a whole-house water filter, then apparently the only benefit is the taste of the water? We have a dedicated faucet and filter at the kitchen sink and, of course, the refrigerator filter to take care of the taste issue.

What am I missing?

It is the water softener that will take care of the calcium/mineral deposits. But it may not take care of the mold under the toilet rim (ours didn't).


As an earlier poster stated (debfromaine, I believe), just having the whole-house filter will not eliminate all calcium deposits unless you add a softener to it.


We added the whole-house filter to the softener system in order to get the resulting salt from the softener out of the water. We had excellent-tasting water and no water spots anywhere. But we did get mold under the toilet rims. That's a humidity issue, not a mineral issue.

CFrance 11-08-2018 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1597264)
Clothes coming out of the washer softer and showering and shampooing much better.

Also whiter whites and brighter colors.

biker1 11-08-2018 12:21 PM

To remove the sodium added by a water softener (it is actually sodium, not sodium chloride, the chloride is stripped off), you will need a reverse osmosis system, a distillation system, or some sort of ion exchange system that targets sodium. There are some small, single tap ion exchange systems that are in replaceable enclosures for individual taps that may target sodium - google is your friend. "Filters", which typically means sediment and/or carbon-based filters, will not remove sodium from your water. Regardless, the amount of sodium added by the ion exchange process (to remove calcium and magnesium ions which cause hardness) in a water softener is quite small, typically about 24 mgs per 8 ounces of water. This is less than a slice of bread or an egg. If even that amount is an issue because of dietary restrictions, you can use potassium chloride as a regenerate in your water softener, albeit at a higher cost than sodium chloride. In that case, small amounts of potassium will be added to your water from the ion exchange process in the water softener. Small reverse osmosis systems installed under a kitchen sink with a separate tap (next to the normal tap) are popular. You would choose the reverse osmosis tap for drinking and cooking water. Reverse osmosis systems pretty much remove everything.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1597266)
It is the water softener that will take care of the calcium/mineral deposits. But it may not take care of the mold under the toilet rim (ours didn't).


As an earlier poster stated (debfromaine, I believe), just having the whole-house filter will not eliminate all calcium deposits unless you add a softener to it.


We added the whole-house filter to the softener system in order to get the resulting salt from the softener out of the water. We had excellent-tasting water and no water spots anywhere. But we did get mold under the toilet rims. That's a humidity issue, not a mineral issue.


photo1902 11-08-2018 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1597262)
My main complaint has to do with the calcium or mineral buildup on the faucets and also the dark mold under the toilet rim. If these issues can't be eliminated by a whole-house water filter, then apparently the only benefit is the taste of the water? We have a dedicated faucet and filter at the kitchen sink and, of course, the refrigerator filter to take care of the taste issue.

What am I missing?

In my opinion, you're not missing anything.


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