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Bosoxfan 03-11-2019 11:55 PM

Starting To Wonder
 
It's coming up on 2 years since the first residents of Fenney moved in and there still isn't a championship golf course .Also there's only one restaurant and no commercial shopping. I know there will be a shopping area in the next year or so but no championship golf..no mention of a square in the near future.I don't know about you but I'm. starting to worry.

Polar Bear 03-12-2019 05:20 AM

My only suggestion is to stop worrying. :)

vintageogauge 03-12-2019 05:44 AM

The first championship course is being built south of 468 and east of the Turnpike and the square was mentioned months ago just won't say where exactly it will be located. You should read the newspaper more often,

photo1902 03-12-2019 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1631941)
The first championship course is being built south of 468 and east of the Turnpike and the square was mentioned months ago just won't say where exactly it will be located. You should read the newspaper more often,

Not to mention the new shopping plaza near the Everglades Rec Center.

billethkid 03-12-2019 07:18 AM

Past performance and history can/should ease your need to worry!!

Rango 03-12-2019 07:24 AM

I can't wait years for The Villages to build this stuff---at my age I don't by green bananas!

mulligan 03-12-2019 08:11 AM

Dirt work and drainage work has begun for the Champ course, but it will be minimum 18 months before the first t-time.

Bosoxfan 03-12-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1631941)
The first championship course is being built south of 468 and east of the Turnpike and the square was mentioned months ago just won't say where exactly it will be located. You should read the newspaper more often,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rango (Post 1631963)
I can't wait years for The Villages to build this stuff---at my age I don't by green bananas!

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 1631984)
Dirt work and drainage work has begun for the Champ course, but it will be minimum 18 months before the first t-time.

Just seems they're more focused on building neighborhoods then amenities. This seems to be opposite of what they've done in the past. 18more months until there will be a championship course brings it to almost 4 years without that amenity down here. Another year or so before we see a grocery store brings that to 3 years .And who knows when a "square " will be done.

dewilson58 03-12-2019 09:17 AM

Why worry???






:ohdear:

John_W 03-12-2019 09:51 AM

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vintageogauge 03-12-2019 09:57 AM

If you're living here now there's a good chance that the next square will be further from your home than Brownwood is today. They own a ton of property down here and there is no end in sight regarding how far south they will build and a new square may well be south of 470 on the way to Webster, who knows. It's only 5 miles to Kristine Way to go shopping for food, gas, banks, etc. I'm sure there are lots of homes north of 44 that are 5 miles away from a Publix, etc. We have been here since May of 2017 and it really has not been a problem. That being said, we are quite a distance from large stores such as Walmart, Target, Belks, etc. but I have a feeling that with the number of people what will be living down here the other stores will be coming sooner than later. I don't have a problem with any of it, I'm just glad that the building in Fenney is completed, it's a lot more quiet and cleaner now that the construction traffic is out of here.

Bogie Shooter 03-12-2019 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1632013)
I know of one sale they lost, I met my new neighbors on Saturday. He's not a golfer, but saw there was a lack of shopping and thought the new homes were a little over priced for what they were offering and not near the squares or other amenties. He said his Villages Agent showed him plenty of new homes down there and they had just moved here from Hawaii so their budget could afford just about anything. He said he also heard about the death of a resident from West Nile Virus.

They chose a resale in The Village of Tamarind Grove off St. Charles and Buena Vista. It's a 2011 built masonry 3 BR CYV with everything done inside plus a birdcage saltwater pool on a corner lot, they paid $400K and now they're just a 20 minute cart ride from from LSL or Brownwood. They were very happy with their new home. This is their backyard.

https://pi.movoto.com/p/431/G5010880_0_A3AYFV_t.jpeg

I don't see what this proves, happens every day, going in both directions.

As to lack of everything......
I remember when we and others had to go to Ocala for the Home Depot. I don't recall a lot of worrying.

dewilson58 03-12-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1632016)
I don't see what this proves, happens every day, going in both directions.

As to lack of everything......
I remember when we and others had to go to Ocala for the Home Depot. I don't recall a lot of worrying.






:bigbow:

photo1902 03-12-2019 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1632016)
I don't see what this proves, happens every day, going in both directions.

As to lack of everything......
I remember when we and others had to go to Ocala for the Home Depot. I don't recall a lot of worrying.

Just proves that on a drizzly day, people will find anything to b%$$ and moan about...even people that aren't affected by living south of 44.

vintageogauge 03-12-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1632013)
I know of one sale they lost, I met my new neighbors on Saturday. He's not a golfer, but saw there was a lack of shopping and thought the new homes were a little over priced for what they were offering and not near the squares or other amenties. He said his Villages Agent showed him plenty of new homes down there and they had just moved here from Hawaii so their budget could afford just about anything. He said he also heard about the death of a resident from West Nile Virus.

They chose a resale in The Village of Tamarind Grove off St. Charles and Buena Vista. It's a 2011 built masonry 3 BR CYV with everything done inside plus a birdcage saltwater pool on a corner lot, they paid $400K and now they're just a 20 minute cart ride from from LSL or Brownwood. They were very happy with their new home. This is their backyard.

https://pi.movoto.com/p/431/G5010880_0_A3AYFV_t.jpeg

They lose sales every day. If everyone wanted to live South of 44 re-sales up North would be at highly discounted prices. That is not the case, there are hundreds of people that choose to buy re-sales north of 44 I believe there are over 2000 re-sales per year in TV most of which are north of 44, not everyone want's to be down here but quite a few do and it's great that buyers have that choice to make.

coffeebean 03-12-2019 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1631942)
Not to mention the new shopping plaza near the Everglades Rec Center.

Does this shopping plaza have a Bed Bath and Beyond, Target, JoAnn's, Best Buy, Kohl's, Kirkland, Pier One, Michael's, Staples, etc, etc, etc?

coffeebean 03-12-2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rango (Post 1631963)
I can't wait years for The Villages to build this stuff---at my age I don't by green bananas!

That's funny!!! Is it OK with you if I use that line?

Bogie Shooter 03-12-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1632055)
Does this shopping plaza have a Bed Bath and Beyond, Target, JoAnn's, Best Buy, Kohl's, Kirkland, Pier One, Michael's, Staples, etc, etc, etc?

Cheap shot!

Two Bills 03-12-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 1631984)
Dirt work and drainage work has begun for the Champ course, but it will be minimum 18 months before the first t-time.

My doctor says 15 months would be a better first tee time!:pray:

photo1902 03-12-2019 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1632055)
Does this shopping plaza have a Bed Bath and Beyond, Target, JoAnn's, Best Buy, Kohl's, Kirkland, Pier One, Michael's, Staples, etc, etc, etc?

I guess if you need to visit all those stores on a regular basis, and you can’t take the commute, then that should be a factor for where you live. For most of us, it’s a non issue. I live just north of 44, and shop at Sam’s usually once a week. For me, I don’t need a store within walking distance.

graciegirl 03-12-2019 01:07 PM

Cold no more suggested this idea a couple of weeks ago and he well may have been right, that people generally are not as interested in golf as they once were.

If that is so, then I am sure The Villages will be onto the trend. OR NOT...….

Read this on the subject of golf from Forbes Magazine;
How A Declining Middle Class Is Killing Golf

dewilson58 03-12-2019 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1632061)
Cheap shot!




Cheap shot, or Chip shot??

skip0358 03-12-2019 01:15 PM

If I wanted all those stores in my backyard I would have never left Long Island. I do think you'll see another square and at some point more stores will be coming but remember several old time stores are starting to close as online shopping and fast delivery like Amazon are getting bigger and better.

Bogie Shooter 03-12-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1632076)
Cheap shot, or Chip shot??

You decide:wave:

ColdNoMore 03-12-2019 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1632055)
Does this shopping plaza have a Bed Bath and Beyond, Target, JoAnn's, Best Buy, Kohl's, Kirkland, Pier One, Michael's, Staples, etc, etc, etc?

Did you hear about the new Costco they're building down there?


:D

Bosoxfan 03-12-2019 01:56 PM

My main concern is the championship golf courses...one can only play 4 executive courses for so long

waterlily 03-12-2019 02:07 PM

IMHO - they will build less Regulation (none are Championship) courses in this area as golf is losing popularity. The Morse family is very good at predicting trends!

I believe you will see MORE varied amenities similar to what they are building now.

Shopping will come with time. Retailers wont rent space if the population does not warrant the expense. Until homes are built and sold, residents will be inconvenienced a little.

Square - don't hold your breath. It will happen. I believe the County mandates it when they approved the expansion. I don't think you will see as many similarities to what they have built in the past. Times change, we will see less brick & mortar stores.

I'm excited to see what the developer does. They have done a magnificent job so far. That's why I moved here.

JoMar 03-12-2019 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1632087)
My main concern is the championship golf courses...one can only play 4 executive courses for so long


You might want to buy a car.....there are plenty of championship golf courses north of 44 (of course that means you might have to travel 10 minutes). :)

Villagevip 03-12-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bosoxfan (Post 1631933)
It's coming up on 2 years since the first residents of Fenney moved in and there still isn't a championship golf course .Also there's only one restaurant and no commercial shopping. I know there will be a shopping area in the next year or so but no championship golf..no mention of a square in the near future.I don't know about you but I'm. starting to worry.

Easy, sell the place and buy north..In T.V. we all realize, life is short, no time to waste...

VillageIdiots 03-12-2019 02:43 PM

It's approaching the point where we'll be more concerned with how far away the closest Amazon distribution center is than the closest brick and mortar store of your choosing. I live south of 44 and moved down here with no intention of buying down here. Haven't regretted a minute of it. As long as we get somewhere closer to buy groceries and fill a cart up with gas every couple of weeks, that will satisfy me as everything else, food and retail, is "close enough". There is plenty of land sitting down here that is zoned "commercial", but they are not going to open up businesses and take a loss until the population meets their thresholds. Every big box business has demographic metrics that determine whether or not their business should be profitable in a given location and they typically don't invest based on projections or potential. Once those metrics start getting met and exceeded, they will come.

I can't count how many times I've driven to local brick and mortar stores looking for specific items, only to find things not in stock or not in my size. Then I go back home and order what I want online. Sometimes I order what I want while I'm still standing there in the store, disappointed that I can't get it right there.

New Englander 03-12-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1632086)
Did you hear about the new Costco they're building down there?


:D

:1rotfl: :clap2:

Serenoa 03-12-2019 03:04 PM

I know what the problem is. It's those dang-blasted interlopers from Wildwood trespassing on their golf carts. That's what is holding everything back.

Chi-Town 03-12-2019 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 1631941)
The first championship course is being built south of 468 and east of the Turnpike and the square was mentioned months ago just won't say where exactly it will be located. You should read the newspaper more often,

Please note that the OP lives down the road from you.

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vintageogauge 03-12-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1632112)
Please note that the OP lives down the road from you.

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And?

Dond1959 03-12-2019 04:15 PM

I am in DeSoto and no issues with the pace of development. We were told there would be championship course built but no date for completion. The car ride to the courses north of 44 are pretty short and I have had no issue getting tee times for executive or championship courses. Publix is 10 minutes away and WalMart is less than 30 minutes in Leesburg. I kind of dread all the commercial growth because that will mean more people and more traffic. Right now it is very easy to get around compared to where I moved from. I love it here but I could see why people want to be where everything is already completed. On the cost of homes, we found we got more bang for our buck down south.

CWGUY 03-12-2019 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1632086)
Did you hear about the new Costco they're building down there?


:D

:a040: I heard they were taking a page from the Walgreen's play book and were going to to put one on every corner down there. :icon_wink:

Bosoxfan 03-12-2019 06:25 PM

Why can't anyone bring up a concern on this forum anymore. No I won't be selling my house and moving North, yes I have 2 cars .These idiotic posts are b.s. answer the concern or shut the he'll up

Bosoxfan 03-12-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 1632111)
I know what the problem is. It's those dang-blasted interlopers from Wildwood trespassing on their golf carts. That's what is holding everything back.

Another idiotic post.You don't like my concerns or threads please don't feel the need to interject this crap

coffeebean 03-12-2019 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1632072)
I guess if you need to visit all those stores on a regular basis, and you can’t take the commute, then that should be a factor for where you live. For most of us, it’s a non issue. I live just north of 44, and shop at Sam’s usually once a week. For me, I don’t need a store within walking distance.

I'm done having to "commute" to a shopping area. I drove 25 minutes in NJ at 70 mph on the Garden State Parkway to get there. I'm not doing that anymore. Love my location which is close to shopping and I don't have to plan my shopping around a commute.

As other people have said, all in due time will the big retail stores come south of 44. I prefer not to have to wait for them. They were all in place nice and close before we moved to The Villages.

coffeebean 03-12-2019 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1632086)
Did you hear about the new Costco they're building down there?


:D

I have heard that but then others have said it is rumors. To think.... I was 7 minutes away from a Costco in NJ.


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