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Daddymac 03-20-2019 09:49 PM

Illegal giving drives license
 
Florida bill would allow illegal immigrants to get driver's licenses - Fox News
FL Lawmakers Announce Bill to Expand Driver’s Licenses to all Immigrants Regardless of Immigration Status | Florida Immigrant Coalition - floridaimmigrant.org
:ohdear: :ohdear: :pray: :ohdear: :pray:
:ohdear: :pray: :ohdear: :pray: :ohdear:

CFrance 03-20-2019 10:16 PM

Link to article or news broadcast?

Two Bills 03-21-2019 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1634480)
Link to article or news broadcast?

Google is my friend.

Just found this. Seems to be as OP stated.

HB 969/SB 1538: Driver Licenses and Identification Cards – Would allow immigrants, regardless of immigration status, to apply for a driver’s license and state IDs (Sponsors: Representative Dotie Joseph, Senator Jose Javier Rodriguez)



Florida’s 2019 Legislative Session Begins | Florida Immigrant Coalition

redwitch 03-21-2019 06:26 AM

Has its advantages. More revenue for state. Illegals able to get insurance. Better chance of finding them if the need arises.

billethkid 03-21-2019 07:31 AM

There is just something wrong when there is no penalty for being ILLEGAL!!

Bay Kid 03-21-2019 08:09 AM

So sad. More money for the government. Soon to be more votes. There is no penalty for being illegal any more. So sad.

leftyf 03-21-2019 08:36 AM

I wonder if my dog will be eligible for a drivers license?

BobnBev 03-21-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by leftyf (Post 1634534)
I wonder if my dog will be eligible for a drivers license?

Is he illegal?, then yes.

BobnBev 03-21-2019 09:06 AM

illegal
 
What the hell, they drive now without them.
:ohdear::ohdear:

manaboutown 03-21-2019 09:18 AM

New Mexico has given drivers' licenses to illegal aliens for years; now California is doing it. It reached a point people were not going to be able to use their NM licenses as IDs to board domestic commercial flights so the state has had to start granting two types of licenses. When I renewed last time I had to bring my NJ birth certificate, US passport and more to get. a "Real ID" license which would get me through TSA. What a pain.

Does any other country grant drivers licenses to aliens who are there illegally?

thomp679 03-21-2019 09:59 AM

I am more concerned of many seniors in Florida that have drivers licenses than illegals.

:boxing2:

New Englander 03-21-2019 10:17 AM

If I were living in Mexico ILLEGALLY would I be able to get a Mexican drivers license?

Daddymac 03-21-2019 01:15 PM

America is going to Hell

sallybowron 03-21-2019 01:29 PM

IDs
 
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Originally Posted by redwitch (Post 1634498)
Has its advantages. More revenue for state. Illegals able to get insurance. Better chance of finding them if the need arises.

I agree. They are going to drive anyway. If you were hit by one of them who was mot forced to have insurance, you w:mademyday:ould be in deep do do.

villagerjack 03-21-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thomp679 (Post 1634574)
I am more concerned of many seniors in Florida that have drivers licenses than illegals.

:boxing2:

Cute but really not very smart.

villagerjack 03-21-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1634642)
I agree. They are going to drive anyway. If you were hit by one of them who was mot forced to have insurance, you w:mademyday:ould be in deep do do.

What makes you think they are going to purchase insurance ? Or a car for that matter?

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-21-2019 04:18 PM

1. PEOPLE are not illegal. This is a pet peeve. It is nasty, mean-spirited, bigoted, loathesome, and hateful to suggest otherwise. Their presence in the USA is illegal, but they, the people themselves, are not illegal. The fact that this is such a common term that no one seems to be bothered by it anymore, is exactly what makes it so horrible. You've all become so accustomed to your own bigotry that you don't notice it.

2. I would rather have a person who has proven that he knows how to drive, and has acquired insurance and registered his vehicle, than someone who hasn't done any of these things, driving ahead of, behind, or beside me on a public road, regardless of his/her immigration status.

thomp679 03-21-2019 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1634698)
1. PEOPLE are not illegal. This is a pet peeve. It is nasty, mean-spirited, bigoted, loathesome, and hateful to suggest otherwise. Their presence in the USA is illegal, but they, the people themselves, are not illegal. The fact that this is such a common term that no one seems to be bothered by it anymore, is exactly what makes it so horrible. You've all become so accustomed to your own bigotry that you don't notice it.

2. I would rather have a person who has proven that he knows how to drive, and has acquired insurance and registered his vehicle, than someone who hasn't done any of these things, driving ahead of, behind, or beside me on a public road, regardless of his/her immigration status.

Hear Hear :bigbow:

valuemkt 03-21-2019 04:55 PM

Someone that commits a felony is a felon. Someone that barges into the United States ILLEGALLY IS AN ILLEGAL. QED

manaboutown 03-21-2019 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1634698)
1. PEOPLE are not illegal. This is a pet peeve. It is nasty, mean-spirited, bigoted, loathesome, and hateful to suggest otherwise. Their presence in the USA is illegal, but they, the people themselves, are not illegal. The fact that this is such a common term that no one seems to be bothered by it anymore, is exactly what makes it so horrible. You've all become so accustomed to your own bigotry that you don't notice it.

2. I would rather have a person who has proven that he knows how to drive, and has acquired insurance and registered his vehicle, than someone who hasn't done any of these things, driving ahead of, behind, or beside me on a public road, regardless of his/her immigration status.

People are aliens when they are residents and/or citizens of another country. If I visit Mexico since I am a US citizen I am an alien while in Mexico. Entering any country illegally is of course criminal conduct. If an individual illegally enters and illegally remains here, he or she is an illegal alien. Q.E.D.

Illegal alien drivers are rarely insured. New Mexico requires an insured driver secure (pay for) uninsured motorist coverage as the chances of being in an accident with one there are horrendously high. Many times the vehicles illegal aliens drive are not properly maintained or they are stolen and used to commit crimes. In my California neighborhood an illegal alien ran a stolen vehicle into a community owned wall which of course we all had to pay for since he was uninsured and had little or no financial resources.

Why we allow people who enter this country illegally to remain here much issue them drivers licenses is beyond ludicrous.

billethkid 03-21-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1634711)
People are aliens when they are residents and/or citizens of another country. If I visit Mexico since I am a US citizen I am an alien while in Mexico. Entering any country illegally is of course criminal conduct. If an individual illegally enters and illegally remains here, he or she is an illegal alien. Q.E.D.

Illegal alien drivers are rarely insured. New Mexico requires an insured driver secure (pay for) uninsured motorist coverage as the chances of being in an accident with one there are horrendously high. Many times the vehicles illegal aliens drive are not properly maintained or they are stolen and used to commit crimes. In my California neighborhood an illegal alien ran a stolen vehicle into a community owned wall which of course we all had to pay for since he was uninsured and had little or no financial resources.

Why we allow people who enter this country illegally to remain here much issue them drivers licenses is beyond ludicrous.

And the hammer nails it!!

Edjkoz 03-21-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1634698)
1. PEOPLE are not illegal. This is a pet peeve. It is nasty, mean-spirited, bigoted, loathesome, and hateful to suggest otherwise. Their presence in the USA is illegal, but they, the people themselves, are not illegal. The fact that this is such a common term that no one seems to be bothered by it anymore, is exactly what makes it so horrible. You've all become so accustomed to your own bigotry that you don't notice it.

2. I would rather have a person who has proven that he knows how to drive, and has acquired insurance and registered his vehicle, than someone who hasn't done any of these things, driving ahead of, behind, or beside me on a public road, regardless of his/her immigration status.


Of course THEY are illegal. If I rob a bank, I’m a bank robber. My pet peeve is people who refuse to see reality when it is staring them in the eye.
As far as driving. What would make you think that they would follow the law and have insurance? Based on past performance, they are not very good at obeying the law

Topspinmo 03-21-2019 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Edjkoz (Post 1634720)
Of course THEY are illegal. If I rob a bank, I’m a bank robber. My pet peeve is people who refuse to see reality when it is staring them in the eye.
As far as driving. What would make you think that they would follow the law and have insurance? Based on past performance, they are not very good at obeying the law

:bigbow:

sallybowron 03-21-2019 06:27 PM

Drivers license
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1634691)
What makes you think they are going to purchase insurance ? Or a car for that matter?

If they are issued a drivers license they have to show proof of insurance just as we are.Having a car is not an issue. It doesn't take them having a car for them to drive, but if they are caught without insurance they will be prosecuted. This won't work for all of them. but it will for a lot.

sallybowron 03-21-2019 06:29 PM

:boom::agree::agree:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1634698)
1. PEOPLE are not illegal. This is a pet peeve. It is nasty, mean-spirited, bigoted, loathesome, and hateful to suggest otherwise. Their presence in the USA is illegal, but they, the people themselves, are not illegal. The fact that this is such a common term that no one seems to be bothered by it anymore, is exactly what makes it so horrible. You've all become so accustomed to your own bigotry that you don't notice it.

2. I would rather have a person who has proven that he knows how to drive, and has acquired insurance and registered his vehicle, than someone who hasn't done any of these things, driving ahead of, behind, or beside me on a public road, regardless of his/her immigration status.


Topspinmo 03-21-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by New Englander (Post 1634582)
If I were living in Mexico ILLEGALLY would I be able to get a Mexican drivers license?


I sure you can grease anybody in charge in Mexico and get what you want.

Topspinmo 03-21-2019 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thomp679 (Post 1634574)
I am more concerned of many seniors in Florida that have drivers licenses than illegals.

:boxing2:

I am more concerned, you’re not concerned by law breakers

Topspinmo 03-21-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1634642)
I agree. They are going to drive anyway. If you were hit by one of them who was mot forced to have insurance, you w:mademyday:ould be in deep do do.

And you think giving them drivers licenses going to make the obey laws?

Topspinmo 03-21-2019 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1634711)
People are aliens when they are residents and/or citizens of another country. If I visit Mexico since I am a US citizen I am an alien while in Mexico. Entering any country illegally is of course criminal conduct. If an individual illegally enters and illegally remains here, he or she is an illegal alien. Q.E.D.

Illegal alien drivers are rarely insured. New Mexico requires an insured driver secure (pay for) uninsured motorist coverage as the chances of being in an accident with one there are horrendously high. Many times the vehicles illegal aliens drive are not properly maintained or they are stolen and used to commit crimes. In my California neighborhood an illegal alien ran a stolen vehicle into a community owned wall which of course we all had to pay for since he was uninsured and had little or no financial resources.

Why we allow people who enter this country illegally to remain here much issue them drivers licenses is beyond ludicrous.

:bigbow:

manaboutown 03-21-2019 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1634738)
if they are caught without insurance they will be prosecuted. This won't work for all of them. but it will for a lot.

Good luck on that! It just doesn't happen. Criminal courts are so overburdened even violent felons are frequently not prosecuted!

Topspinmo 03-21-2019 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1634738)
If they are issued a drivers license they have to show proof of insurance just as we are.Having a car is not an issue. It doesn't take them having a car for them to drive, but if they are caught without insurance they will be prosecuted. This won't work for all of them. but it will for a lot.

You can have drivers licenses and you don’t have buy car. But, if you legally buy car and legally licenses the car you have to have proof of insurance AT time of resignation.

Topspinmo 03-21-2019 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1634698)
1. PEOPLE are not illegal. This is a pet peeve. It is nasty, mean-spirited, bigoted, loathesome, and hateful to suggest otherwise. Their presence in the USA is illegal, but they, the people themselves, are not illegal. The fact that this is such a common term that no one seems to be bothered by it anymore, is exactly what makes it so horrible. You've all become so accustomed to your own bigotry that you don't notice it.

2. I would rather have a person who has proven that he knows how to drive, and has acquired insurance and registered his vehicle, than someone who hasn't done any of these things, driving ahead of, behind, or beside me on a public road, regardless of his/her immigration status.

I guess you put the political spin on it for the agenda to make its sound so righteous. They are if they entered the country illegally or over stayed they’re visa, they not undocumented ( the new liberal term) they are illegal aliens.

Topspinmo 03-21-2019 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by villagerjack (Post 1634689)
Cute but really not very smart.

He’s trying to be funny, but unlining a agenda

villagerjack 03-21-2019 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sallybowron (Post 1634738)
If they are issued a drivers license they have to show proof of insurance just as we are.Having a car is not an issue. It doesn't take them having a car for them to drive, but if they are caught without insurance they will be prosecuted. This won't work for all of them. but it will for a lot.

WRONG...You can get a drivers license without owning a car. The rest of your comment is unintelligible. Perhaps you can edit it so it makes sense.

Mleeja 03-21-2019 08:24 PM

Is the license going to state “non-citizen” so they cannot use the ID to vote?

B-flat 03-21-2019 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1634516)
There is just something wrong when there is no penalty for being ILLEGAL!!

It’s nuts, my home state is Rhode Island Governor Gina Ratmondo ( her real last name is Raimondo) is about to do the same. It’s WRONG many times over! :cus::cus:

thomp679 03-21-2019 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1634746)
I am more concerned, you’re not concerned by law breakers

If I was concerned about law breakers, then almost everyone on this board would be law breakers. Nobody has lived a pure life.

OrangeBlossomBaby 03-21-2019 10:55 PM

When you turn the word "illegal" into a noun, it's offensive. It's just as offensive as calling a Jewish person a certain word, or a black person a certain word, or an Italian a certain word, or a Muslim a certain word.

People are not illegal. Their alien status might be illegal. Their actions might be illegal. But the person himself - exists as a legal human being. There is nothing illegal about his existence. His presence in the USA might be illegal. But HE - is, by all legal definitions, a human being. Not "an illegal." That word, used as a noun, is offensive. It's also ignorant.

Polar Bear 03-22-2019 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1634842)
When you turn the word "illegal" into a noun, it's offensive. It's just as offensive as calling a Jewish person a certain word, or a black person a certain word, or an Italian a certain word, or a Muslim a certain word...

YOUR comparison is what’s offensive. Being a Jewish person or a black person or an Italian or a Muslim is not illegal.

billethkid 03-22-2019 06:23 AM

I got it!!!!

The person is real? Check!

The real person has entered the USA illegally? Check!

The real person is an illegal alien? Check!

Illegal alien persons are not and should not be allowed the privileges or rights of all the other real persons who are either born here or here legally. It is the law!!!


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