Possible Dramatic Changes for TV Recycling
 

I copied and pasted this article from TV News.com........

Dramatic changes could be coming soon to recycling efforts in The Villages
June 7, 2019

The decision by China and other countries to stop accepting recyclables from America could soon be felt at the end of every driveway in The Villages.

Villages District Manager Richard Baier continues to set the stage for a meeting on this topic set for 9 a.m. June 20 at Laurel Manor Recreation Center. The meeting will be open to all Villagers who wish to attend. Baier has been providing updates to all of the community development district boards in The Villages.

“We need to examine the long-range sustainability of our solid waste management plan,” Baier said.

He called the June 20 meeting, “The first step toward a long-range plan.”

The decision by China and other countries to reject recyclables from the United States has shaken up a system in which most Americans were feeling they were doing something worthy when they put their recycled products at the curb for collection.

However, many municipalities are considering ending their recycling programs and sending those products to landfills.

Baier said there is still a market for cardboard, but products that are less and less desirous are glass, plastic and aluminum.

The June 20 meeting will include a presentation of about 45 minutes by Jacobs, the waste hauler who in 2017 purchased CH2M Hill, the previous hauler. The Jacobs presentation will be followed by a question-and-answer session.

I always thought aluminum was highly recyclable.

Only if there is a buyer who can recycle...for a cost less than creating new. :shrug:

Which is a shame, because the ancillary benefits of reducing landfill wastes...is an admirable goal.


Aluminum Recycling 101 (Poke Here)

wonder why they can't find domestic recycle companies.....we had a couple in PA but what they took was very limited

China has been cutting back since 2016. China announced an almost complete import band in January of 2018.


The USA is going to have to manage its own items.


A business opportunity.


From Yale:

The recycling crisis triggered by China’s ban could have an upside, experts say, if it leads to better solutions for managing the world’s waste, such as expanding processing capacities in North America and Europe, and spurring manufacturers to make their products more easily recyclable.

Recycling has been an enormous and expensive waste of effort for years now. Only because of the recent rejection of our waste by third world countries have we begun to come to our senses. The problem is not "Fake News. " In Hong Kong you pay for plastic bags at the grocery store. Most people bring reusable bags. Because of the rather worthless recycling collection efforts across the country we have lost sight of the real costs of our waste. Time to take a different path.

All stores in UK charge for plastic bags.
It has gone back to what it was, before free plastic bags.
Shoppers take their own bags to grocery stores, and they pack them themselves.
Some are introducing 'bring your own reusable containers' for snack foods, salads, coffees etc. for take outs.
We recycle nearly all our waste.
Where it goes now is open to conjecture, paper/cardboard is not a problem, but still to much is landfill bound, since China stopped taking ours a few years ago as well.
However, the USA. is light years behind most of Western Europe in your efforts to rehome/recycle waste.
The USA is second to China in the most polluting nations list.
I am not knocking the USA. I love the place, just stating a fact.

In Washington, DC (lived there before TheVillages), you're charged 5-cents for a plastic bag. Funny how that would make such a difference, but if I or anyone I observed at checkout, forgets the recycled bags, we say "$.05!! forget it, I'll carry it!" Just charging a small amt, no matter if you can afford it or not, makes you conscious of the fact that you should not be wasteful. Took awhile but finally Maryland starting charging for plastic bags; not sure if VA finally went that route. But if you do take-out or buy from a liquor store in DC, the plastic bag is free. My husband & I threw everything we thought could be recycled into that specific trash can in DC (which the recycle trash guys picked up every week whether it was or not), and it was a learning experience to now only put paper/cardboard/cans/plastic bottles into the recycle bag. Seems that the recycling people did too good a job and have to help us un-learn that things we think can be recycled, can be thrown out in w/the regular trash.

Same thing happening in Virginia. It is such a pain that I only recycle cardboard and paper.

In Suffolk County in NY you are also charged for using store plastic bags. Also more and more restaurants do not give straws or are using paper straws.

Recycling efforts (regular pick up) are costing many millions of useless expense. Need to stop now and find another approach. Maybe less waste which should be very easy to implement.

One of the major crimes here in TV are the plastic bags which we are required to put our trash in twice a week. Multiply that by the number of houses we have. These bags are not disintegrating and contaminate efforts to break down in the landfills.

I don't recall any time in my life, no matter where I've lived, where my trash was put out on the street in bags and not in a trash can.

While over the years there have been many complaints regarding going to trash and recycle type trash cans, it really is the only way to get away from using plastic bags. That hurdle won't happen any time soon because the change over would be too costly for the developer to provide the receptacles and trucks to do the job and I think they are just too cheap to do it.

You are not required to put your trash out twice a week, you have the option to put it out up to twice a week. We put it out once a week, there are only two of us so we can do that. In addition, we keep a trash can in the garage with a heavy duty bag in the event we over accumulate (party). Everything goes out on the recycle day. Thanks again for the shot at the Developer, it would be disappointing if someone didn't do that when we don't understand the business.

Prior to living in The Villages, we always used trash cans to put out the refuse. However, inside those trash cans were plastic bags that contained the trash. I can not imagine throwing egg shells, as an example, into the trash can alone. I have always lined my kitchen garbage can with a plastic bag. I just can not imagine not having a liner.

:agree:

I love garburators. We don’t have them up north in the city because the old sewer system can’t handle it.

Wait, you mean there’s an environmental cost to Amazon deliveries coming to every home every day in all those extra boxes? Who would of thunk, ;)

In the north: We have supermarket plastic bag in the bathroom trash can, and my office trash can. A tall kitchen bag in the kitchen trash bin. When any of them are full we tie up the bags and toss them in the big garbage can outside. Once a week we roll it to the curb. We also have recycling bins, and our municipality lets us have more than one, if we are the type to recycle lots of recyclables every week.

I don't know how it is that the Villages isn't full of vermin, with all those plastic bags leaking who knows what all over the curbside twice a week all along the road in the entire neighborhood. I personally find it disgusting and more unattractive than if someone wanted to stick a tacky pink flamingo on their front lawn.

Maybe that's what some of y'all think is "beautiful." Meh. I'd rather have the flamingo, and a singular trashcan with a bunch of bags inside it, with the lid closed on the curb once a week.

Guess you never lived in NYC or NJ. :) Were we lived we put our required plastic bags INTO containers that were automatically picked up by a 1-man truck with a "robot arm" that dumped and put the can back in the same spot. The city supplied every resident with a special can. Saved them millions in labor. The labor no longer on sanitation trucks were assigned other jobs incuding recycling pickup. Recycling was put out and picked up manually once a month. The sanitation dept would spot check garbage cans for stuff that should be recycled.

At our home up north all the schools had recycling dumpsters. In the last month all have been removed.

At the hospitals we work at, we recycled all of our cardboard, wraps, plastics. With up to 5 bags per case of clean products we filled the compacting bins weekly. Last week bins were removed. So now hospitals are throwing 300 plus bags a day in the land fill.

And Speaking About Taking a Shot at Someone . . .
 

What's to understand??!? If Waste Management can do it, why can't Morse???
And truthfully, it really isn't necessary to have trash pickup twice a week. One pickup a week would work and be less costly.

What you are calling a shot at the developer happens to be a truism, not a shot. I've also noticed at every opportunity, YOU take a shot at me!

Yes -- the Morse family is obviously too cheap to invest in trash cans, recycle cans and the trucks which can handle the pickup.
I'm not speaking about the residents who are against this; that isn't the reason it isn't done.

So tell me -- how come Waste Management manages to do it in an efficient and environmentally conscious way all over Florida . . . and Morse doesn't???

We have a compost heap up north. Won't be doing that in The Villages, not merely unsightly but the properties are too close together for that kind of thing.

Yes, as a matter of fact, I did live in Manhattan for a number of years and in Jersey, as well.

The type of truck and trash/recycle cans you are describing are similar (if not the same) as what Waste Management has.
There are also cities that have machinery that automatically separates trash from certain types of recyclable items, too

I've had a compost bin (but not a heap) right next to my A/C unit outside. It is no more unsightly than the compressor itself.

And BTW, for those who are not familiar with compost, it does NOT smell.

I think the reason your comment is considered a shot at the developer is that they don’t own the sanitation company. Why would it be their responsibility to provide the waste containers for that company? Where I lived previously, we had containers for trash and recycling paid for and supplied by the company that was contracted for the service, not by the city. Should not be any different here. If we are to get containers, the contractor, not the developer (or the district) should pay for and provide them.

Waste management services for all of the Villages north of 44 is handled by NSCUDD. -> Sanitation Information
and -> NSCUDD

Please read to stay informed.

???? - The Morse family are real estate developers (and very good ones at that) who have created a really great retirement community for us to enjoy. They are not in the trash pick-up and recycling business. Why do so many people think that 100% of everything that is not to their absolute liking in the Villages should be remedied out of the pockets of the developers?? That's not how things work in the real world!

Yes, the Morse family are developers but if you read one of my other comments, I was under the impression that the trash/ business was theirs.

It was not an unfair assumption to make since they are also in the banking business, insurance business, and even more businesses of which we are probably not aware.

Seems a logical assumption, I thought it was the Developer too who was responsible, not familiar yet with the system of organization in TV.

It is actually the CDDs. They are the ones who are billing you monthly for trash.

Into which trash bag should diabetics and heroin addicts put their used needles?

The problem is that there is no real market for "recyclable" stuff. If a market existed, people would be knocking on you door and asking for your recyclable waste.

NSCUDD, a utility dependent Village district is the entity that bills you for the trash if you live above 44.

Sanitation Information

and

NSCUDD

a budget meeting is taking place this morning at the District Office Board room starting at 9 A.M.

Maybe I’m missing something but why would the developer of a community be responsible for the purchase of garbage cans for everyone?

This service would be covered by our taxes and we would ALL be responsible for the cost. We’ve had have this type of service at our home and if your garbage can is taken more than once, the rule is you have to buy the next one.

There are already disposal sites for sharps that people with hazardous waste use. Sadly, drug addicts don’t care where they dispose of those materials.

Composting smells. If being turned and maintained properly, you will get the odors of decaying materials. The smell resembles silage if you include greens.

A good working compost pile should have a lot more carbon than nitrogen. Nitrogen matter (lawn clippings, leaves, food scraps and manures) provide the mix for making the enzymes. Easy rule to follow is 1/3 green and 2/3 brown material.

With the requirements needed, the heat and the vermin, I wouldn’t want my neighbor composting.

You might want to sign up for the Resident Academy. They can answer all those questions on organization and functions. In addition they provide reference material with contact names and phone numbers so you always have someone to ask whatever questions that come up. I also suggest going back every couple years as things get changed and updated. Here's the link.

VCDD Resident Academy

When they started that up north in our town the savings to the city far exceeded the cost of the special cans (and trucks). I believe they said they saved almost $750K a year. That was a town of about 75,000. It actually reduced our local taxes by a (very) small amount after year 2. And correct, if a can was stolen (lol) or lost (lol) or if we wanted an extra one it cost $60.

Speaking of which...


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