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Golf Course etiquette
Noob here with another question.
As we are preparing to take Good Golf course and lessons, etc. One thing I am a little concerned with is I don't want to be "in the way" of faster players. Do players get upset at slow players - or is it normal to just let some "play through" (politely)? I have no problem with letting other faster players go ahead of me at any tee. Is this an issue? Is it normal? I would think with this many "old" people, some would be slower than others. |
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Trust me, if you play the exec courses, especially in the high season, even you will be complaining about how slow the pace is. As a beginning player, just remember you can always just pick up your ball and move on. Don't worry about the score.
Also, avoid booking tee times at the level 3 & 4 courses initially. You'll learn about the ratings in the Good Golf School. By the way, what's a "noob?" Do you mean Newbie? |
As a golfer who plays frequently, I have no problem with beginners on the executive courses. We all started somewhere. The good school will go over the Good Golf rules. My suggestions are 1. Pick the ball up when your stroke count is twice the par. 2. Do not look for a lost ball more than 5 minuts. 3. Get off the green when you are done. 4. Look at the hole in front of you. If there is no on it, you are playing to slow. Speed up by skipping the tee off. Drive up to the hole, drop a ball on the green, put out, and catch up. If there is still no one on the hole ahead, skip the hole completely. We all thank you for being considerate.
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Time to look for lost balls
Under the new PGA rules you have 3 minutes to look for a lost ball
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That's why on an earlier thread of yours I mentioned, don't go to a championship course for at least a year. That's the biggest complaint at those courses. My foursome can play 18 holes in as little as 3 hours, we did that two weeks ago Evans Prairie when no one was in front of us. Normally it takes 4 hours if were playing behind other foursomes, like we did yesterday at Cane Garden. It's when our round takes 4 plus hours it gets to be a problem. That's why it's so great having the executives here at TV. Just imagine all the beginners at that championship courses. Most cities and towns you're lucky to find an executive style course. They're might be one in the whole city.
On the executives I mentioned don't play until you've gone to the driving range for a couple of weeks, you don't even know how far each club will go. If the hole is 130 yards, do you know what club to use. You're learning an entirely new sport. It's not like bowling, where you own the lane. There are groups going out right behind you. Keep that in mind. |
Expected pace of play on champs is average 4hrs-26mins. One should always expect that, anything less is gravy.
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noob=newb=newbie :) |
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"Etiquette" I like to play fast myself, but if tee times are full I expect minimum 4hrs. Steve |
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arnold palmer. while we're young. - Bing video |
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Villagers following PGA rules Yea Ok! |
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As of January 1, 2019 the new time limit for looking fro a lost golf ball is three minutes. |
Golf in TV has rules?
Not very apparent out on the courses (executive courses). |
OP, raking sand traps, fixing ball marks and fixing divots are part of golf etiquette. Unfortunately, I see a lack of it especially on the executive courses.
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To othersteve......if u think 4 hrs and 26 mins is the "expected" pace of play, then u r obviously part of the problem!
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Great suggestions!
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Go to the range, and write down how far you hit each club. Then make a little cheet sheeet and paste it on your steering wheel of your cart. You can refer to it while you are playing until you are comforable knowing all your yardages.
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In front or behind them. Two big problems are: 1. Sorry girls but you are the worst offending party when it comes to standing around having discussions Such as where do we go to lunch or who had the most serious health issue of the day or who has the smartest best looking grandkids. 2. The other big problem and perhaps the absolute worst is the Easter Egg Hunters. These folks are not happy just looking for their own ball hit out of bounds but they hold up pace on every hole looking to add to their collection Another five gallon bucket of other peoples list golf balls. The vast majority of folks out having a good time are polite and even if never informed on course etiquette, are aware of their responsibility to keep up the pace. It’s the rude idiots who stand around blabbing and hunting for balls that create huge unnecessary backups. The ambassadors will sometimes try to politely get them moving but if you ask the ambassadors they often will tell you they could loose there job or have a complaint filed against them so they end up doing little more than offering you water and saying have a nice day. |
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Nice shooting, John
I ALWAYS shoot in the 70's & 80's. It's too hot to play when its in the 90's and too cool when it's in the 60's.
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How far I hit each club
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When you do venture on to the Championship courses please don't do what I see all too often: A foursome all goes to one individuals ball, waits for that player to hit and then goes to the next players ball. You should always be thinking about your next shot and if you are not in the "line of fire" from another player, go to your ball and be ready to hit when clear.
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You are part of the problem!
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Maybe you should either move up to the tee box from which you can reach the green in regulation OR play on the exec courses. Further, remember if each player wastes just 15 seconds when it's his turn to hit, that adds to a minute lost for a foresome at the tee box and every shot thereafter. That can result in 5 minutes per hole. And remember, your pace affects EVERY group on the course behind you and at the turn. |
Excellent advice!
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The score cards have the minimum time per hole on them. Each hole has a time from the beginning of the nine. That is what the ambassadors utilize for their comments on slow play to you. Good golf etiquette says you play 'ready golf' (meaning each player goes to {or finds} their ball and begins preparation for next shot as long as they are not in another players way). When it is your turn to hit, step up and hit, you should have already analyzed the lie, the distance, and the wind. If you are welll out of the way of other players, proceed wilth your shot as soon as possible. Your speed should be 'keeping up with the group in front of you' (assuming the same size group). You will NEVER receive a complaint from the ambassadors or players behind you for playing in under 4 hours. With everyone playing within their ability at the proper tees (not the macho tees), 3½ hour rounds could be the norm (more than 10 minutes average per hole with time for restrooms and water).
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Letting a group play through may seem like it would speed up play but it usually doesn't unless there is a broken down cart or some other rarity.The fact of the matter is a slow group is slow for a reason. Play ready golf. If you are at your ball and you can take your shot safely ,take it. In the fairway drop a player at the first ball and go to the second ball and be ready to hit when it's safe .Waiting for the away person to shoot is not necessary . On the green be at your ball and be ready to put when it's your turn. Concede short putts and don't mark your ball unless necessary. Upon leaving the green get to your cart and drive to the next tee quickly. Mark your scores down at the next tee. These are little but can save a minute or two on a hole which can add up in 18 holes. I realize as we get older mobility can become an issue and fast play may be difficult for some so the Reasonable Accommodation (RAT tag)might help some players. The goal is to enjoy ourselves so if the slow players can try to be ready and the fast players be patient we might just have an enjoyable round.
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The executive tee time system has starts on the average every 9 minute (Seems to range from 8 to 10) and yet the score cards suggest i.e. 1Hr 30 Min or mostly 1 Hr 45 Min. I realize that some courses may be longer, have more par 4, or require more walking from the Cart Path, however , if starts are every 9 minutes, the 1 Hr 45 Min pace is never going to be possible. Especially in the prime season every one needs to pace at 1Hr 30 Min or less. That needs to be understood by all golfers. 1 group of golfers can slow every on down. New golfers might be prodded by Ambassadors to speed up or skip a hole, but why set an unrealistic pace on the golf card?
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4 hours and 26 minutes per round on a championship course equates to nearly 25 minutes per hole. Not sure this is too long for a foursome but it is for sure if you are a twosome.
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But not here. Steve |
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