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Just wondering if your scheduled club events are being canceled or not.

I run the Long Island Club and are now getting emails if our 4/7 event will happen or not.

What about the nitely squares

Squares eww packed last night. So far none of our meetings have been canceled.

I have seen news of Bunco (at Miona?) and Jim / Carolyn's dance class at Captiva.

IMO, all it would take is one COVID-19 case in TV to balloon into a real panic.

Agree, with over 100,000 it is possible, people are still returning from cruises and points outside the country.

Moreover, with most of us in the high risk age group and surly not enough ICU beds in the area.

This could be avoided and limited, but step one is closing the squares perhaps for 30 days to see how it develops

Let's hope it doesn't happen

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One does not have to worry about beds, every hospital has a emergency plan for an event. Hospitals can send all their OB to one facility, and set one hospital for another issue.
Triage is always set up in the parking lot, and then set to correct facility. Entire floors can be turned into whatever the need.

April 7th Long Island Club event

This event scheduled for 6 p.m. is being canceled due to COVID-19 concerns. The event was to take place at the Eisenhower Recreation Center.

National and local health authorities have determined that social distancing reduces the risk of spreading or contracting this virus.

As the President I'm canceling out of an abundance of caution to avoid the possibility of unnecessarily exposing my friend's and fellow long Islanders.

Bob

But how many respirators do you think we have in this area? If only 2 % of the population gets seriously ill, they may need to intubate 2000 people. We do not have the resources to make that happen. For some this will be a lethal illness and health practitioners will need to make some tough decisions.
In our demographic, we each need to take responsibility for prevention. Avoid large scale events that can quickly multiply the scale of the infection.

No worries soon the population will drop in Florida. By the looks of I75 for the past 2 weeks the migration has started earlier than usual.
I have faith in medical emergency plans, it is what every staff member is trained for. Vents are portable, and can be moved to a facility quickly. This will not be the first time any medical staff need to make decisions, it’s not tough, it very cut and dry. There is protocol.

As for attending events, one should have made that decision weeks ago.

Big craft shows
 

Hope they still have the craft shows on saaaaturday..:pray:

Intubate 2,000 people in our immediate area? You can't be serious. You are talking about the sickest of the sick who will need mechanical ventilation, so if 2,000 people out of say 120,000 need vent support, then probably 90+% of the population would be infected, (just an estimate, don't ask for a citation), making this worse than the bubonic plague of the 1300's

Area hospitals in question
 

I don't have the same comfort level in our hospitals meaning TV and Leesburg. I except Brownwood's new ER to this comment. I had several bronchitis with asthma and could not breathe but was kept waiting 5 hours in ER. A second time same year put in hallway in Leesburg as TV full up and had to wait gasping a while. That was 4 to 5 years ago. 2 years ago, waited 7 hours in ER with appendicitis. No improvement from 4 to 5 years ago.
Ocala has great ER and got in right away. I would hope Ugent Cares would expand hours to assist with some treatment although no beds

Stop posting these things please. You're only going to create Panic by doing so. The threat is not as large as people are making it out to be. Please just stop!!

how many OB beds do you think the Villages hospitals have???? Italy's health system is in crisis to lack of ICU beds. we have over 100,000 people here in the age group and with pre-exisiting conditions that could require ICU beds and/or respirators. but beyond that is staffing....already the area hospitals suffer from lack of staffing. it would be a disaster here.

I doubt there are many OB beds, since Villagers are generally over the childbearing age:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I didn’t say OB here:faint: hospitals would put like cases out of harms way, say a newborn, or infant, and move them to the same facility. Leaving all of the old people in one spot. It amazes me that people think anywhere in the US that 2000 people could be vented, in the same area.

As far as staffing you must not have come from medical field. If you work at a facility, and it becomes a triage unit. Everyone day off, vacation are called to work. You do not have a choice, and you will not be leaving that facility until the crisis is over. Yep you live there. Yes you work 16 hours, 8 off if possible. I have had the pleasure to serve in this situation more than once.

Medical staff do not panic, if they did they are in the wrong field.

The bonus is this is not trauma, so the new grads, won’t be deer in the headlights.

The Villages is being REACTIVE instead of PROACIVE - very disappointing! People have to be informed and precautions and containment put in place. Colleges have cancelled all classes in some states without even a case! We are all at risk....are they smarter? Apparently........

How about a positive reaction?
Maybe, TV, like many other responsible organizations have certain go-no go levels of feedback.
The fact that schools and public venues here are currently remaining as per normal, could/should be a positive indicator.

And for many negative or prejudiced folks that will not fly. But like it or not....it is just as accurate.

One always has their own self containment that can be implemented at any time they choose (OR NOT!!).

You were kidding right?
 

I don't know about your post. Was it a joke? Whatever might happen I agree with a former poster it would be huge if we had even one person with coronavirus. People at risk are already not coming to play bridge as of the last few days. We have some people who amazingly are still going on cruises in spite of Dr. Fauci's (NIH) advice not to do that. We do have quite a few people still traveling back and forth to The Villages. If we had even one case I think it would be pandemonium. I would not want to go to any hospital around here. I don't believe they are fully supplied or prepared for that virus.

Based on what FACTS????

don't agree
 

I worked in many ER trauma hospitals and I know that often we were overwhelmed with trauma cases and had to re-route to other ERs. Eventually all the ERs in the area were at times past capacity for new cases. I think this area could be a disaster just based on the lack of ability to handle the current routine ER situation. We better hope an outbreak here does not happen!

You are correct about that "just one case". Many Villagers love to travel and I'm one of them. If one person gets the virus it will really hit the fan here. Crossing my fingers...

not prepared
 

Based on the fact that The Villages and Leesburg hospital ERs cannot handle the routine (non-carona virus) emergencies right now. Based on the wait times right now that are still long - up to 7-8 hours, based on no beds, people waiting for beds for hours in the hallways on a stretcher, based on substandard medical treatment that has occurred in the past.
These are just a few reasons why a coronavirus outbreak here could be very bad.

Bold=opinion
italic=ER waits are long everywhere
underlined= opinion

Still waiting for factual information about how local hospitals are not prepared. I'm not saying they are, but I have no evidence that shows they are not

We are in the beginning of a world wide pandemic with global health, social and economic effects. We live within a population that likes to congregate in large numbers-many having serious existing health concerns. CDC has advised that people over sixty stay home and your bigger worry is a craft sale?

Cancel activities
 

facts
 

I just gave you 4 facts.
Further, you said ER waits are long everywhere. The shortest wait time in The Villages ER for the 2 times in 10 years that I went there was 7 1/2 hours. The 2 times I went to the Ocala ER near Del Webb my wait time was less than 5 minutes.

No, you gave opinion, and one fact about wait time. Here's today's ER wait facts:
ER Wait Times Within 30 miles of 32162
These are the average wait times at hospitals near 32162. Actual wait times will depend on many factors.

Hospital - Share Your Experience
City

Total Wait Times

Leesburg Regional Medical Center Comment
Leesburg
3h 12m

Florida Hospital Waterman Comment
Tavares
3h 16m

Citrus Memorial Hospital Comment
Inverness
3h 24m

Villages Regional Hospital, The Comment
The Villages
3h 35m

Munroe Regional Medical Center Comment
Ocala
4h 42m

Where is the proof of "substandard care"?---that's right, it's all anecdotal, and many of the stories posted make no medical sense

Where the proof that they lack supplies? Did you take inventory?

You cannot conflagrate fact and opinion, that's what the mainstream media is for.

What no one has mentioned is that we actually have NO idea whether there are already cases of Coronavirus here in The Villages because there's been NO testing. As of last night, according to Gov. DeSantis, fewer than 1000 people in the whole STATE of Florida have been tested and they're still waiting on results from almost half of those. I haven't heard of ANYONE being tested here yet. Tests are still in VERY short supply and being rationed out to hospitals. They're only allowed to test if there's actual evidence of exposure. By the time we know for sure how many are infected here, it'll be way too late to contain it. Having your favorite events canceled is a pretty small price to pay considering how many lives could be at stake with a population as vulnerable as ours.

that might be based on the time you are first checked by ER staff. I have personally been with people who waited hours for beds and who told there were beds but there is a lack of staff. at that time there were multiple patients on beds in the halls of the ER. although my friend was in ER from ambulance, I'm sure her official wait time was low, but she did not see a practitioner for several hours. Another friend of mine with stage 4 metastatic breast cancer was sent to leesburg for admission.....waited from about 10am until 9pm sitting in waiting room. Patient advocate said could not give time for bed to be available.

now these are anecdotal incidents, but I trust my own experiences over published waiting times and I feel several people here can share similar stories.

If you want this thread shut down, keep talking politics :boxing2:

Governor is announcing stopping large group venues.
Several cruise lines have suspended services for 60 days.

"but Mom, he started it" you're absolutely correct--knee jerk response on my part.

You're right, they ARE anecdotal. And I can share stories across tens of thousands of ER encounters, some not so good, most pretty average, and a lot spectacular, so what. I have a problem with the statement "trust my own experience"---it is limited compared to the thousands of data points that go into the published numbers
Please avoid any physician who states "in my experience", I'm more interested in the evidence based medicine that should be practiced.

I hope every one of the threads on this crap gets shut down.

I pity America if there was a real national threat.
And No I do not think this is a real national threat.
Steve

Pitch in
 

Lets all be a part of the solution rather than a part of the problem.
#1 Wash your Hands, Wash your Hands,Wash your Hands ect.
#2 Avoid Crowds
#3 If you suspect you have been infected DO NOT head to the ER or your Doctors office,call a medical professional and describe your symptoms and follow their advice.

Just heard , wash your clothing after you have been in a close public environment(might also mean take a shower, too), also open windows and ventilate your habitate as much as possible

And don't touch the mail, don't touch money if you don't know where it came from, don't touch doorknobs, don't pet others pets. don't touch the ATM, stay out of restaurants, don't touch eating utensils, don't touch the gas pumps, don't buy beverages form the bar huts at the squares, don't go shopping for anything that you think has been touched or breathed on...................
.................and for God's...DON'T BREATH IN PUBLIC PLACES!!
I hope everyone heeds these common sense suggestions.
Steve

Agree wholeheartedlly!

How about Disney World ??????? $$$$$$

In my opinion, it’s better to take precautions. At our age in TV the (possible) panic won’t kill us. But the virus may. (Yes, I know I have changed my mind, but I am now considering the current information we have on the virus.)

For the deniers: remember the guy who fell off the 10 story building and said as he passed the 5th story, “So far so good”.