There is starting to be good news out of New York City
 

A NY Doctor shared His results using Hydroxycloroquine Chloroquine/Azithromycin
200mg 2x daily Hydroxy Chloroquine
500mg 1x daily Azithromycin
220mg 1x daily Zinc sulfate

350 patients
• Breathing restored 3-4 hours
• Zero deaths
• Zero intubations

So there are more firsthand reports coming out of NYC, the possibility of returning to normal sooner than later is still dependent upon social distancing to break the infection rate. However, stay vigilant until the pandemic is over

Bahrain claims success with anti-malarial drug used on coronavirus patients


sportsguy

This was in a letter from an unidentified person, claiming to be a doctor...to Hannity.

While hoping it's totally legit...one has to wonder. :ohdear:


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Any chance you have a link for this info ? I need good news.

These "news conferences" daily are beginning to be rallies. Lots of self congratulation as death tolls rise, unemployment surges, hospitals are collapsing and are overwhelmed, state and local leaders warn the worse to come.

So, give me a legit link to good news. The link you supply is from Bahrain.

N95 Masks are now being sterilized by UV light, and are being reused.
365NEWSX.COM::USA::As Coronavirus Looms, a Hospital Begins Sterilizing Masks for Reuse

So what makes this country great is its ingenuity and problem solving skills when facing a challenge.
There are other sources validating this but are private

Sportsguy

Validation
 

Agreed, so currently the data is anecdotal, but have patience and keep an eye out for it. The positive hope will be out in a few days, is my prediction. . . as the anecdotal becomes stronger.

sportsguy

Not so good news. The local daily paper in New York – the Daily News reports NYC has built a massive makeshift morgue at Bellevue hospital that can accommodate thousands of deceased should the usual system not be able to handle. Now that’s Terrifying

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Family friend, healthy male about 65 or 70, was about to go on ventilator last night for covid at NYC hospital. They gave him the new drug cocktail (hydroxychloroquine and whatever else), woke up this am breathing easily and no fever. Firsthand story.

Now this is good news!

Here is where you have to understand that reading or listening to main stream media, or MSM for short, will not be your best source of news. Why, because these are commercial outlets who have a profit motive, and an audience who is looking for confirmation bias. As a trader and investor, my IRA is up from the end of January, and my trading account is down less than 10%. The reason is that I don't use or read MSM. I use a large sample of public individual sources, which over time, I deem to be "truthful" or have limited bias. None of these are in the news. I don't own a facebook account.

I have proven this to my wife, as I will read her items and within the week, it will be in the MSM news. These are ways that investors get ideas for up and coming stocks, actions, etc. or commenting about something that is fishy, etc.

Yes, the source is twitter. I follow about 500 users, scattered around the world, and all have a relationship to finance or other closely related interests. not my friends nor family, and I read both sides of arguments, bulls and bears to be balanced, but most are professionals, and they are constantly searching for news ahead of the news, the good and the bad slivers to get the edge on changes in psychology or events.

So that is why I am starting to be optimistic that I will be able to be there to put the house through a warranty inspection prior to the warranty expirying in the beginning of May. And yes, I was scared sh!tless that I wouldn't be able to see retirement, but the tiny bit of positive news is starting to slip out. I change channels as soon as the POTUS is anywhere being on the screen, he is not one of my follows on twitter. So continue the process for health safety, and keep looking for those tiny slivers of good news.

sportsguy

I will believe twitter "reports" when those reports come from actual, verified, legitimate medical sources (like the head of the research teams that are working on the vaccines and treatments), or the CDC or local health department updates. I don't care how many followers you have on Twitter, or which alt-news media site you got it from. If the source of the information can't be verified by the CDC (or at least by Snopes, for crying out loud) then the information is at best, worthless and at worst - dangerous.

Also - an equities trader who promotes a pharmaceutical to treat a pandemic shortly after the worst day in the Dow in history? - nah, not suspicious at all.

Even the possibility of good news is welcome. Hope is a wonderful thing.

My daughter says hydroxycloroquine has not helped her patients at all.

The CDC says that this drug, if misused, can cause severe retinal damage.

So don’t be self medicating with this stuff.

OMG, please don't take anything your own doctor doesn't prescribe. There have already been deaths associated with taking some of those drugs in the US and overseas because they heard it from the president or other non-scientist! Just don't do it!

Yes... the whole world is reporting success... scientists and doctors just need to hurry up and do a controlled test to confirm results.

I believe this will end sooner than media says. They always have an axe to grind and it usually does not benefit people. Information will leak out from different sources and confirmation will come with consensus. These drugs have been peer reviewed in Europe and apparently they work. What is needed is treatments to help the sick and vaccines are a long way off. We will know the curve once we see the numbers start to drop and the President’s actions have been substantial and appropriate. Keeping my fingers crossed for an early recuperation both for people and our economy.

No doctor will prescribe this until you have an eye exam relative to taking it, and have that same exam once a year.

It was successfully used to treat the SARs Conornavirus. There have been a few folks that have been interviewed that have been treated successfully for this virus. The medicine was used in Vietnam on our military members to combat malaria. Not trying to pick an argument with you, but no one was suggesting self-medication, only making a positive statement that some have found success using that medication. I believe they were treated by doctors.
If this medication does work well with this virus, it will save months or years of research and save lives NOW rather than later. I think that it's a good bit of news in a seriously bad time.

Death toll in New York has spiked 110% since yesterday. If there was such a pill or pills this would not be happening.
Be careful of the rumors you hear.

Those tweets were from long ago. Look at the dates. Let’s be real here folks

This must be false news in listening to the tv on there is no mention of this. Go to
 

Go to cdc.. gov or John Hopkins. Edu for Accurate information

Not from New York. Why are you spreading fake information
 

We have enough to deal with without this false information.

I had a friend from the UK and he said, "A major difference between the Brits and the Yanks is that in the UK we say, 'we have a situation' and in the U.S. you say, 'we have a problem'. The difference - a problem implies a solution!"

If you are in NYC hospitalized with COVID 19 there is not a lot of good news.. Yesterday the death count was 199, this am it grew to 280... As the Gov said.. Many more deaths will happen in the next week or 2 as the hospitals are pushed beyond capacity. It's just a numbers game and math isn't bias to anyone.

NY's Democrat Governor Andrew Cuomo has approved the testing of the "hydroxychloroquine cocktail". Comments here about this drug combo efficacy being "misinformation" or simply touted by non-scientists or alt-whatever news sources is unequivocally wrong.

If people want to wait for full-scale long-term studies, that's fine. Tell that to a dying patient - perhaps (and hopefully not) someone you know - with no other hope. At least give the willing a chance. There's no guarantees, of course, but these are not normal times.

New York To Begin Clinical Trials For Coronavirus Treatment Tuesday, Cuomo Says

That's not what the comments are about. The misinformation is the anecdotes and accolades. This combination is not readily available to the public. It is not "proven" to work in humans for Coronavirus. It is being tested. You can't just get a prescription for it, and if you try to get a prescription for the individual parts of the combination and take it, you could end up dead.

Again - this cocktail is not yet PROVEN to be effective. It is being studied. Sure there's hope that the end result will be an effective treatment. And sure that result might come quickly, now that it's being studied.

But it is misinformation to claim that it has already been proven to work, OR that "a family friend who I know so well I'm not even sure how old they are" took it and recovered the next day, while under hospital care, and therefore it MUST be that cocktail and there's absolutely no possibly way that the virus had already completed its journey through the patient's body and was simply over the next morning."

And this person knows for sure because he's a doctor? Nah - because he's a stock trader.

Get real people. You're not stupid, you managed to live long enough to get a lovely home in a wonderful community. Surely you got here by not being that gullible.

tests have been ongoing for a bit now.

" As of Friday (March 20), 86 clinical trials of COVID-19 treatments or vaccines that are either ongoing or recruiting patients. New ones are being added every day, as the case count in the U.S. (and globally) skyrockets. The drugs being tested range from repurposed flu treatments to failed ebola drugs, to malaria treatments that were first developed decades ago."

Relative to Plaquenil (I take this for rheumatoid arthritis myself), a quote about this drug..

"However, the CDC noted that the small, non-randomized study "did not assess clinical benefit[s]" associated with the treatment; in other words, the study did not probe whether the treated patients were more likely to recover and survive their illness. Additionally, the agency advised that doctors should be cautious when giving either drug to patients with chronic disease, such as kidney failure, and especially those "who are receiving medications that might interact to cause arrhythmias."

Treatments for COVID-19: Drugs being tested against coronavirus | Live Science

This link will update you on ALL drugs being tested

Ohiobuckeye
 

Everybody should just believe what they want because everybody has their own ideas what to do. The best thing to do is not to read comments on anything like this or any article that you can comment on because there’s always someone that’s going to be an expert on the subject.

So if you get COVID-19 and you are gasping for breath, don’t take anything that hadn’t been thoroughly studied and given a full stamp of approval.Then we won’t be hearing from you any more.

Let the seriously ill people and their own doctor decide what is best for them.

please please stop broadcasting things you read on the internet about medications . Please remember so much of what you read have no credibility .

[QUOTE=OrangeBlossomBaby;1733927]That's not what the comments are about. The misinformation is the anecdotes and accolades. This combination is not readily available to the public. It is not "proven" to work in humans for Coronavirus. It is being tested. You can't just get a prescription for it, and if you try to get a prescription for the individual parts of the combination and take it, you could end up dead.

Again - this cocktail is not yet PROVEN to be effective. It is being studied. Sure there's hope that the end result will be an effective treatment. And sure that result might come quickly, now that it's being studied.

But it is misinformation to claim that it has already been proven to work, OR that "a family friend who I know so well I'm not even sure how old they are" took it and recovered the next day, while under hospital care, and therefore it MUST be that cocktail and there's absolutely no possibly way that the virus had already completed its journey through the patient's body and was simply over the next morning."

And this person knows for sure because he's a doctor? Nah - because he's a stock trader.

Get real people. You're not stupid, you managed to live long enough to get a lovely home in a wonderful community. Surely you got here by not being that gullible.[/QUOTE

Stop trying to scare people and telling them what they are allowed to post, you are not the hall monitor here. Millions of people (including me) have taken plaquenil drug for malaria, and millions have taken Z-Pak (including me) for infection and they are just fine. These drugs are in wide circulation. Doctors in Miami, New York and all over the world are now giving these drugs to coronavirus patients per FDA guidelines, clinical trials have also started, and there is nothing wrong with posting about it.

drugs working
 

Don't believe this

no science is behind this information.

[QUOTE=GoodLife;1733955]As a daily user of plaquenil, I can only tell you that prior to allowing me to take this drug, I was required to visit the eye doctor for examination in order to set a baseline because as my MD told me, damage to the retina is possible, and I a required to have that retina exam each year to insure no damage. Ther are other side affects for the drug, much depending on the patient.

Giving out ANY drug on a request basis is plain wrong and irresponsible,

There are about 90 drugs now being tested, and you certainly can post about it, but making claims on any forum based on no medical knowledge at all. That will cost lives.

We are living in a society that is scared, and, to me, that is preying on their fears. Having factual information given to us is the ONLY safe way to promulgate drug information.

EVERYONE is hoping for something......I recall the anxious waiting on the swine flu vaccine and the very long lines to get the shot.

We all can and should hope, but broadcasting little ancedotes and ignoring real medicine is wrong ant potentially fatal.

[QUOTE=Bucco;1734019]You dont need a retinal eye exam to take plaquenil for malaria or coronavirus since it's only a 1 or 2 week course. Stop confusing people with misinformation.

[QUOTE=GoodLife;1734032]I have no idea how long is required on any treatment.

I was sharing warnings received from DOCTORS.

Medicating based on internet posts is wrong.....of that, I am certain. NOT MISINFORMATION, but medicating based on posts surely is misinformation. There are almost 100 different drugs currently being tested, including plaquenil, to fight this virus. Praying for a breakthrough is a good thing.....making a rash decision based on a post on this or any forum is not responsible. Many, not me at this point, are now having trouble getting this drug because of the rush to have a doctor write a prescription and the drug is now on the shortage list.

I will suggst my doctor consult with you on next visit

And here we are again. Somebody has learned the magic words "peer reviewed" And somebody has not provided a link to support the claim that hydroxychlor/zith has been peer reviewed. The French small study has been released online PRIOR TO peer review. It is interesting but it only evaluated the clearance of viral positive testing after patients were give hydroxychloroquine. And there were exclusion criteria that meant certain patients could not be included. And the sickest patients were excluded.
Of the 26 patients given hydroxychl 6 were excluded from the results. 3 because they ended up transferred to the ICU thus were kicked out of the study. A fourth because that patient died. And two dropped out of the study. The control patients were mostly recruited in other hospitals in other cities seemingly. So hardly an ideal control group.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...135v1.full.pdf

So when you read some doctor who apparently wrote a letter to a Fox channel personality claiming that 350 of 350 of his patients were cured.. Firstly it is unlikely any single doctor has 350 Covid positive patients, but not impossible. Secondly if in this study of non-ICU patients 4 of the initial 26 given treatment either died or went to the ICU it is exceedingly unlikely that 0 of 350 would fail. Again to be fair, the published French study was of hydroxychl only on most patients. Only 6 of the 20 reports patients were given zith based on "clinical judgment" which was to prevent "bacterial superinfection". So apparently in only 6 patients was concern about future bacterial superinfection a concern.
You can read the results in this NOT peer reviewed paper. It likely is now undergoing peer review but has not been published as a peer reviewed study. The results are tantalizing and do suggest benefit of Hydroxychloroquine by itself, and greater benefit with the addition of Zithromax. Only 6 people got the combination.
Of the patients in the study only about a third had a diagnosis of bronchitis or pneumonia. 2 treated patients were asymptomatic [it is unclear why they were even swabbed at entry. Perhaps all patients being admitted to that hospital were swabbed regardless of clinical history.] So of the 20 reported treated patients, 14 had nose, throat, or low grade fever only.
Both the WHO and multiple clinical centers are actively studying this combination as well as several different antiviral products. I am hopeful that some individual or combination will be successful. But claims that proof has been established is wrong.

As for the comment that NY Gov Cuomo "approved" of the treatment.. Governors do not have the authority, nor do Presidents, to give medical approval for medical treatments. That is the role of the FDA. Keep in mind that doctors have always given medications beyond what the FDA has formally approved as a usage guideline. The CDC collects data and makes evidence based recommendations. Those recommendations may include use of medications outside the listed indications on the package insert.

A personal opinion about some of the comments about how dangerous hydroxychloroquine is.. It is very safe. The long term use of the medication rarely causes retinal problems. Problems are seen mostly in patients who take it for more than five years and more likely with higher doses. The risk of toxic retinopathy in patients on long-term hydroxychloroquine therapy. - PubMed - NCBI

I cannot find a case of eye complications from a short term use of the drug. Not saying it doesn't exist but no review I read included any short term use patients. The FDA does not even recommend eye exams other than a baseline exam until the patient has been on hydroxychloroquine for 5 years unless they have other risk factors. From the package insert:

Thank you for including a link. It is one more clinical report. This Bahrain news source quotes a medical official as saying they are using hydroxychloroquine after having detected Covid in the country 2 days earlier. It links to a report with a comment that Bahrain had been using medication since Feb 26th. No clinical information is included. No control group. Bahrain has a population of 1.7 million. The Johns Hopkins dashboard today shows:
Bahrain
Confirmed: 457
Deaths: 4
Recovered: 204
Active: 249

The article you linked does have a serious misstatement of fact
The report actually shows only 6 patients were treated with the combination, not some two dozen.

500mg 1x daily Azithromycin -- I had to take this for Lyme Disease in CT.
Diarrhea... Awful. Thanks but I'll pass.

Spoke with my sister-in-law who is a doctor and she confirmed that using Hydroxycloroquine with Azithromyacin will help those infected with Covid19 recover.

Did you know gullible is not in the dictionary?

OBB, love your sensible, thoughtful posts. You should have a blog if you don’t already.

Plan for the worse, hope for the best.