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Regor 03-27-2020 09:37 AM

Why are us retires getting a check?
 
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

DianeM 03-27-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

I agree with you completely. That money needs to go to people who really need it. Many have lost their jobs and are suffering. If and when I receive it, I’m seriously considering donating it to a food pantry or something like that.

Tom53 03-27-2020 09:43 AM

The check will be based on your income, a good number of people here will receive nothing, as it should be. Last I read, the income would be based on your 2018 returns, don't know it that changed.

GoodLife 03-27-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

There are lots of seniors who barely get by on SS checks and don't have a pension. You are not everyone.

Polar Bear 03-27-2020 09:45 AM

I think the intent is for you to SPEND IT!

It’s then a win-win...helping you and struggling businesses to get people BACK to work.

skip0358 03-27-2020 09:50 AM

Agree not everyone here retired with large pensions and or SSI checks, some have also lost their spouses and their incomes so they could certainly use the check when it comes. It's based on your filing income whether or not you get one and how much it will be period .

retiredguy123 03-27-2020 09:51 AM

Why are retirees getting a check? The same reason the Kennedy Center is getting $25 million. Politics.

Villagevip 03-27-2020 10:02 AM

Don't desire a government check? This, after all the trillions of dollars of American taxpayers monies wasted and stolen? Better in my hands to waste....

Marvic 1 03-27-2020 10:20 AM

Why don't you think of this instead of picking on those on SS...
If your out of work and were making $99,000 a year (that's almost $2,000 a week) you will be getting $2,000 unemployment benefits every week for sitting at home. As Electrician 12 years ago I was making $80+K per/year, when I went on furlough I got $246 per/week not $1,500 from unemployment benefits, $246.00 was the cap at that time, thank God my Union was able to supplement that....

Fredman 03-27-2020 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

Don’t want your money then donate it to an organization that could use it more than you.

Decadeofdave 03-27-2020 11:35 AM

It's working out good for me, just sent IRS 1200 dollars for 2019 taxes.Now I get my 1200 back - even steven

golfing eagles 03-27-2020 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1734503)
There are lots of seniors who barely get by on SS checks and don't have a pension. You are not everyone.

True, but they were in the same situation before this epidemic. The money should be used for those whose situations changed DUE TO the epidemic.

Mleeja 03-27-2020 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

Have you not noticed the number of seniors working here in The Villages? Many are doing so to supplement their SSI and may be affected due to business and restaurant closings. I bet they do not qualify for unemployed payments so the $1200 will be a big help!

If you do not need the money donate it to a church or local food bank. I am sure they will be very appreciative of you donation.

GoodLife 03-27-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1734580)
True, but they were in the same situation before this epidemic. The money should be used for those whose situations changed DUE TO the epidemic.

That would be super simple to figure out, probably take only a year or two.

golfing eagles 03-27-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1734595)
That would be super simple to figure out, probably take only a year or two.

A decade or two if the GAO tries to figure it out:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

cegallup 03-27-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

"FREEDOM" and "LAWS" are difficult for some to conceptualize. I think the whole Bill is 50% pork - and it puts us further into future Bankruptcy. But I'm not going to tell anyone what to do with their "GIFT". If you like, donate it . . . .

brianherlihy 03-27-2020 02:46 PM

give it to your kids

brianherlihy 03-27-2020 02:49 PM

give it to the homeless :bigbow::clap2::clap2:

Topspinmo 03-27-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

You don’t have to cash it. Or are just mad others are getting it? Just cause you and I don’t need it don’t mean every retiree in the same boat.

Cissy 03-27-2020 03:27 PM

If you think it's such a dumb idea, return the check!
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Rapscallion St Croix 03-27-2020 03:28 PM

As a lover of irony, I will use money given to me by the federal government to pay for certain products deemed illegal by said federal government but allowed under Florida law.

billlaur 03-27-2020 03:34 PM

check
 
give it to me ,I NEED IT:pray:

Bogie Shooter 03-27-2020 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1734503)
There are lots of seniors who barely get by on SS checks and don't have a pension. You are not everyone.

So, explain how they are effected financially by the virus. Still get their SS check.

Regor 03-27-2020 03:46 PM

It sounds like someone is trying to buy votes!

Bogie Shooter 03-27-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1734504)
I think the intent is for you to SPEND IT!

It’s then a win-win...helping you and struggling businesses to get people BACK to work.

Then give it to those in need to spend.

Bogie Shooter 03-27-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1734580)
True, but they were in the same situation before this epidemic. The money should be used for those whose situations changed DUE TO the epidemic.

My God, this is so simple, why is it so hard to understand?

Regor 03-27-2020 04:25 PM

With everything closed, where do you spend it that can help?

Mleeja 03-27-2020 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1734731)
So, explain how they are effected financially by the virus. Still get their SS check.

I am not 100% sure which side of the fence you are coming down on. It appears you are suggesting people receiving SSI do not need the check because their income situation has not changed. This concept could be expanded further. There are millions of folks that have not lost their jobs and they will be getting the checks as well. Because they have not lost their jobs should they be denied the payment as well?

Villageswimmer 03-27-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1734561)
Don’t want your money then donate it to an organization that could use it more than you.

I think many here will do that.

billethkid 03-27-2020 06:11 PM

If you don't need it, think you don't deserve it....now you can just go out and spend that much more than you usually would in the local small businesses in TV.

golfing eagles 03-27-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mleeja (Post 1734790)
i am not 100% sure which side of the fence you are coming down on. It appears you are suggesting people receiving ssi do not need the check because their income situation has not changed. This concept could be expanded further. There are millions of folks that have not lost their jobs and they will be getting the checks as well. Because they have not lost their jobs should they be denied the payment as well?

yes

Paper1 03-27-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1734495)
What a dumb idea! Pay all us retires $1200 for what? I'm not being affected financially at all by the virus pandemic. I will still get my SS check each month along with a pension check.
That money should be going to people that have been put out of work and are in need!

Election coming Nov, expecting you to vote. That said I agree with you

Topspinmo 03-27-2020 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by billlaur (Post 1734728)
give it to me ,I NEED IT:pray:

You’ll have to beat me in one pocket for it:super:

Topspinmo 03-27-2020 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1734731)
So, explain how they are effected financially by the virus. Still get their SS check.


They are on very limited income anything puts them in bind. Evidently Only the poor Would understand?

Topspinmo 03-27-2020 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Paper1 (Post 1734805)
Election coming Nov, expecting you to vote. That said I agree with you


So, you think career politicians have the answers?

ColdNoMore 03-27-2020 06:37 PM

I am just hoping that those on the lower end of the income scale...are the ones getting money.

The amount of annual income, should also include those drawing yearly from investment income.

In other words, as far as I'm concerned, ALL money flowing into a household, regardless of the source...should be used in calculating who is eligible to receive money from this bill.

As far as I'm concerned, I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of it should go toward those who need it the most and whose entire current household income...should not exceed $60K single and $100K total.

What I'm afraid of however, is that those making that amount of money right now may end up losing their jobs permanently and then all bets against us slipping into an actual DEPRESSION...are off. :ohdear:

One thing is for sure though, the biggest beneficiaries of the last 'Great Tax Cut' have the least to worry about...and shouldn't get a damned dime this time around.

While I shouldn't qualify for anything on this new relief bill, if there is a screw up and "they" end up sending me any amount of money...it won't be with me for long.

If you read/hear about someone wandering around grocery stores, handing out Benjamin's (with gloved hands of course) to those appearing to need it the most (and yes, I realize that one can be fooled by appearances)...I say in advance that I don't know anything about it.

GoodLife 03-27-2020 07:23 PM

Calculator for coronavirus check

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ck-calculator/

Its pretty simple, based on your 2019 (or 2018) tax return and adjusted gross income

Easy to figure out if you're going to be handing out benjamins at Publix soon :1rotfl:

JoMar 03-27-2020 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1734802)
yes

The payment is based on your income as reported in your 2019 tax return and if you haven't filed it goes to your 2018 return. I agree that most of us don't need it and shouldn't get it but I also agree that those that are currently getting government aid should not. Their income hasn't changed, what they made in 2019 is what they make now so their life and budget doesn't change. The 1200 won't make that much of a difference. If someone is working now they shouldn't get it now but there should be a mechanism that if they lose their job as a result of the virus impact they can file and receive it. Let the bashing begin.

thomp679 03-27-2020 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1734813)
I am just hoping that those on the lower end of the income scale...are the ones getting money.

The amount of annual income, should also include those drawing yearly from investment income.

In other words, as far as I'm concerned, ALL money flowing into a household, regardless of the source...should be used in calculating who is eligible to receive money from this bill.

As far as I'm concerned, I've come to the conclusion that the vast majority of it should go toward those who need it the most and whose entire current household income...should not exceed $60K single and $100K total.

What I'm afraid of however, is that those making that amount of money right now may end up losing their jobs permanently and then all bets against us slipping into an actual DEPRESSION...are off. :ohdear:

One thing is for sure though, the biggest beneficiaries of the last 'Great Tax Cut' have the least to worry about...and shouldn't get a damned dime this time around.

While I shouldn't qualify for anything on this new relief bill, if there is a screw up and "they" end up sending me any amount of money...it won't be with me for long.

If you read/hear about someone wandering around grocery stores, handing out Benjamin's (with gloved hands of course) to those appearing to need it the most (and yes, I realize that one can be fooled by appearances)...I say in advance that I don't know anything about it.


I'm with you, ColdNoMore and I find it interesting no discussion on Socialism with this topic. A government handout usually causes a big blowup on this forum and is not favored.

When I first heard about this potential windfall, I thought it would be a good time to buy the bike I was considering. Then I sat back and thought about all those people and their families that just had their livelihood knocked out beneath them. Cornavirus hits and we worry about no toilet paper. Many people have to worry about how to get food on the table and keep roofs over their heads.

There was 3.8m people who filed for unemployment in one week!! At certain points in each of our lives, most of us could have been in their shoes. These people have to worry about money and a pandemic, simultaenously.

Now these government payments may be needed by some here in the Villages, but many of us can survive without it. Most of us should step up and join ColdNoMore in handing out Benjamins in the next few weeks. Seek out your favorite server or retail clerk that has been laid off. See a hard working hero like a nurse or grocery clerk who is risking their health and hand them a bonus. Is the fitness instructor no longer able to help you...maybe help them. There are any number of ways. You can always give it to a foodbank or similar place of assistance, but in this time, maybe direct assistance will better benefit an individual.

Anyhow...keep safe. We will get through this if we help each other, but it will take a bit to get back to normal or at least the new normal.

DianeM 03-27-2020 09:20 PM

So... I was thinking. If you do receive a stimulus check of $1200 or any amount really, if you are comfortable without it, how about investing it in a stock that you like. That would bolster the company, and face it, most are in trouble. This would ultimately pay you a dividend down the road so both the company and you win. Without companies, there are no jobs and without jobs, we become Venezuela.

After 9/11 When Wall Street took a big hit, there was a campaign in New York to buy “just one share” to start rebuilding. I bought one share of Walt Disney stock and to this day I do receive a quarterly dividend. It’s not much, change really, but it was something to show support after a really tough time. We are facing a horribly rough time head of us.


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