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dsnrbec 04-02-2020 02:00 PM

I’m Over It!
 
Is anyone else getting tired of being labeled “entitled”? It seems like every time I look at any of the various social media posts, someone is accusing me/us of being entitled. I used to think it was outsiders but Villagers are doing it now, too. Just because someone is choosing to do something you don’t agree with doesn’t make them entitled! For the most part, we are caring, giving folks doing the best we can to make the most of our senior years. It’s a stressful time for all of us and we don’t all agree on every issue but let’s please stop the name calling — especially that particular one.

manaboutown 04-02-2020 02:04 PM

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

coffeebean 04-02-2020 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 1738952)
Is anyone else getting tired of being labeled “entitled”? It seems like every time I look at any of the various social media posts, someone is accusing me/us of being entitled. I used to think it was outsiders but Villagers are doing it now, too. Just because someone is choosing to do something you don’t agree with doesn’t make them entitled! For the most part, we are caring, giving folks doing the best we can to make the most of our senior years. It’s a stressful time for all of us and we don’t all agree on every issue but let’s please stop the name calling — especially that particular one.

So......what would you like to call those who do not adhere to the guidelines? Think of another word other than "entitled". OK.....GO!!!

manaboutown 04-02-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1738960)
So......what would you like to call those who do not adhere to the guidelines? Think of another word other than "entitled". OK.....GO!!!

Palatine, privileged, heedless, thoughtless, narcissistic, special, self important, sociopathic, self centered, ...

DianeM 04-02-2020 02:12 PM

Many villagers do have an entitlement issue. Basically why most of the surrounding area despises us. In the current situation many feel the general rules do not apply to them. Stay home is only if they feel like it. They’re sneaking out like children at camp to go make out while counselors are sleeping.

dewilson58 04-02-2020 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1738959)
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:




No butter please.

nututv 04-02-2020 02:15 PM

Better deal with it. The Chicken Little's have been breeding like rabbits for a decade plus. This is what I do, 5 miles out in the gulf, by myself. No other human even in sight including the mainland. No, I'm not staying inside like animal in a zoo.

https://advkayaker.com/wp-content/up...39-768x576.jpg

Villageswimmer 04-02-2020 02:19 PM

Obtuse, cavalier, arrogant, selfish, know it all, superior, unkind...

Boomer 04-02-2020 02:29 PM

Dunning-Kruger Effect?

dsnrbec 04-02-2020 02:34 PM

OK, I get that SOME people are foolishly putting themselves and others at risk but it’s the broad, sweeping generalizations that are getting to me. There are thousands of us here with faults and shortcomings but I would sure hate to be called an alcoholic just because SOME here overdo it. Just tone it down with the name calling and recognize that MANY of us are doing everything we can. It seems to me that the word “entitled” makes the rounds about everyday now (as in “those entitled Villagers”). We’re all under a lot of stress and name calling doesn’t help the situation.

golfing eagles 04-02-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1738994)
Dunning-Kruger Effect?

Definitely. There are plenty on TOTV that post like they are experts, some even work in the health care field. The problem is that they don't know what they don't know

jet10s 04-02-2020 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1738965)
Palatine, privileged, heedless, thoughtless, narcissistic, special, self important, sociopathic, self centered, ...

NARCISSISTIC -- for sure -- this group is the it's all about me group

CoachKandSportsguy 04-02-2020 02:48 PM

scientifically, its called dunning kruger effect.

Velvet 04-02-2020 03:36 PM

Well, I can think of many names for that type of behavior - not people - and I think “entitled” is a very, very soft word in the first place.

mamamia54 04-02-2020 03:58 PM

Can’t we stop the name calling. Let’s leave that for the “outsiders”, lol!

golfing eagles 04-02-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 1739025)
scientifically, its called dunning kruger effect.

See posts 9 & 11

TexaninVA 04-02-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nututv (Post 1738974)
Better deal with it. The Chicken Little's have been breeding like rabbits for a decade plus. This is what I do, 5 miles out in the gulf, by myself. No other human even in sight including the mainland. No, I'm not staying inside like animal in a zoo.

https://advkayaker.com/wp-content/up...39-768x576.jpg

Is that kayak shark-resistant?

manaboutown 04-02-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mamamia54 (Post 1739104)
Can’t we stop the name calling. Let’s leave that for the “outsiders”, lol!

Not name calling: describing, identifying, diagnosing...

TexaninVA 04-02-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 1738952)
Is anyone else getting tired of being labeled “entitled”? It seems like every time I look at any of the various social media posts, someone is accusing me/us of being entitled. I used to think it was outsiders but Villagers are doing it now, too. Just because someone is choosing to do something you don’t agree with doesn’t make them entitled! For the most part, we are caring, giving folks doing the best we can to make the most of our senior years. It’s a stressful time for all of us and we don’t all agree on every issue but let’s please stop the name calling — especially that particular one.

Does that mean we're no longer allowed to call entitled seniors entitled?

manaboutown 04-02-2020 04:04 PM

Maybe the PC police will make using the descriptor "entitled" a crime.

nututv 04-02-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1739109)
Is that kayak shark-resistant?

haha. No, they're welcome to join me anytime and often do. As well as sea turtles, dolphin, sting ray etc. Had a black tip at my 4 o'clock maybe 3 feet away just this past Tuesday evening. They're amazing animals and just beautiful. They are very curious, not aggressive.

JoMar 04-02-2020 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 1739005)
OK, I get that SOME people are foolishly putting themselves and others at risk but it’s the broad, sweeping generalizations that are getting to me. There are thousands of us here with faults and shortcomings but I would sure hate to be called an alcoholic just because SOME here overdo it. Just tone it down with the name calling and recognize that MANY of us are doing everything we can. It seems to me that the word “entitled” makes the rounds about everyday now (as in “those entitled Villagers”). We’re all under a lot of stress and name calling doesn’t help the situation.

It has more to do with the behavior then what's posted on here. As we grow, it will, most likely, get worse. The foursome standing next too each other, the people that can't count in the swimming pools, the battle over TP in the paper isle, the person that crowds you in a check out line because they are in a hurry...lot of examples where people's behavior identifies who they are, so it's not name calling, it's identifying behavior and previous posts have identified alternatives but, it's still the same. Pass the salt :)

Topspinmo 04-02-2020 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1738960)
So......what would you like to call those who do not adhere to the guidelines? Think of another word other than "entitled". OK.....GO!!!

I’ve got several, But I will reframe myself :shocked: I know I am too.

Topspinmo 04-02-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 1739005)
OK, I get that SOME people are foolishly putting themselves and others at risk but it’s the broad, sweeping generalizations that are getting to me. There are thousands of us here with faults and shortcomings but I would sure hate to be called an alcoholic just because SOME here overdo it. Just tone it down with the name calling and recognize that MANY of us are doing everything we can. It seems to me that the word “entitled” makes the rounds about everyday now (as in “those entitled Villagers”). We’re all under a lot of stress and name calling doesn’t help the situation.


Well, if the shoe fits then? If it don’t, then evident they are not directing to you.

riley2011 04-03-2020 05:08 AM

Selfish!

CoachKandSportsguy 04-03-2020 05:25 AM

Definately a popular thread
 
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1739107)
See posts 9 & 11

:ohdear: They posted while I was typing. I type and review as my typing skills has deteriorated horribly as I have aged so I didn't see it. :ohdear:

I try not to "pile on" but it was a popular thread at the moment!

sportsguy

diane reynolds 04-03-2020 05:29 AM

entitled
 
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Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 1739005)
OK, I get that SOME people are foolishly putting themselves and others at risk but it’s the broad, sweeping generalizations that are getting to me. There are thousands of us here with faults and shortcomings but I would sure hate to be called an alcoholic just because SOME here overdo it. Just tone it down with the name calling and recognize that MANY of us are doing everything we can. It seems to me that the word “entitled” makes the rounds about everyday now (as in “those entitled Villagers”). We’re all under a lot of stress and name calling doesn’t help the situation.

When I think of myself, I am privileged by skin color ---white, and education, and having great parents. Many times those who are privileged, instead of being grateful for their privilege and giving to those in lesser circumstances, take the leap toward entitlement. Like "I deserve (whatever) because I have worked hard." However, what these folks do not acknowledge is the fact that being a male, white, heterosexual, Christian, tall, well educated has opened doors they knew nothing about.

jedalton 04-03-2020 05:34 AM

entitled
 
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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1738960)
So......what would you like to call those who do not adhere to the guidelines? Think of another word other than "entitled". OK.....GO!!!

entitled

Prince4425 04-03-2020 05:36 AM

Uppity!!

davem4616 04-03-2020 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by diane reynolds (Post 1739285)
When I think of myself, I am privileged by skin color ---white, and education, and having great parents. Many times those who are privileged, instead of being grateful for their privilege and giving to those in lesser circumstances, take the leap toward entitlement. Like "I deserve (whatever) because I have worked hard." However, what these folks do not acknowledge is the fact that being a male, white, heterosexual, Christian, tall, well educated has opened doors they knew nothing about.



WOW, way to throw the guilt around!!!! Bet you were raised Catholic....:MOJE_whot:

MandoMan 04-03-2020 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dsnrbec (Post 1738952)
Is anyone else getting tired of being labeled “entitled”? It seems like every time I look at any of the various social media posts, someone is accusing me/us of being entitled. I used to think it was outsiders but Villagers are doing it now, too. Just because someone is choosing to do something you don’t agree with doesn’t make them entitled! For the most part, we are caring, giving folks doing the best we can to make the most of our senior years. It’s a stressful time for all of us and we don’t all agree on every issue but let’s please stop the name calling — especially that particular one.

When people call others “entitled” in a pejorative way these days, what they often mean is this: “believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.” The important word here is “inherently.” We all know people who ACT as if doing something is their “God-given right” (“endowed by their creator”), that is, inherent right, a right with which one is born.

But originally, many centuries ago, the word meant one “held the title” to something. If you held the title to a piece of property, you were “entitled.” It was yours by legal right! If someone borrowed money from you and gave you a contract promising to repay you, you were “entitled” to that money.

If you own a home in The Villages, you are legally “entitled” to live there. If you pay your amenities fees, you are “entitled” to do certain things that outsiders are NOT entitled to do, such as use the executive golf courses or swim in the pools. (Apart from the current emergency.) If you pay for special privileges at the country clubs, you are “entitled” to them. If you paid money to the Social Security Administration for decades, you are “entitled” to receive your Social Security check. If you are 65 or older and a U.S. citizen, you are legally “entitled” to receive Medicare. If you put aside money in your retirement fund for decades, you are “entitled” to spend that money after you retire. It is your legal right.

Social Security and Medicare, and also other programs like Medicaid, and welfare payments of various kinds, are classified by the government as “entitlements” because if one meets the requirements, one has the legal right to receive them, and the government has the legal responsibility to pay them. Some of these entitlements are partly covered by what one has contributed, and some are not—they are gifts, but gifts to which people are “entitled” by law.

So yes, if you live in The Villages and own your home and pay your dues (that is, what is DUE to someone if you want to enjoy that to which you are entitled), then you ARE “entitled.” You are ENTITLED to it, in the good sense of the word, and you are free to enjoy it without guilt. Likewise, people on welfare are also “entitled,” because they are legally “entitled” to the services and payments they receive.

You DESERVE the treatment to which you are “entitled”. Name it and claim it! Just don’t prance around acting as if you are INHERENTLY “entitled” to special treatment. That offends almost everyone. With “entitlements” come duties. Wealthy people who come from old money (few if any in The Villages) are taught from childhood that quiet politeness, courtesy, grace, cordiality, modesty, kindness, respect, are what one gives or shows to avoid being called “entitled” in the bad sense of the term.

CoachKandSportsguy 04-03-2020 05:46 AM

Well typed!
 
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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1739293)
When people call others “entitled” in a pejorative way these days. . .

Just don’t prance around acting as if you are INHERENTLY “entitled” to special treatment. That offends almost everyone. With “entitlements” come duties. Wealthy people who come from old money (few if any in The Villages) are taught from childhood that quiet politeness, courtesy, grace, cordiality, modesty, kindness, respect, are what one gives or shows to avoid being called “entitled” in the bad sense of the term.

Well written!

sportsguy

graciegirl 04-03-2020 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jedalton (Post 1739289)
entitled

I think the OP is hurt and angered as many are at the unfair taunts on social media about all villagers by some of those who live close by. It is hard not to be hurt and angered. In fact most of us are at least annoyed.

We have to try to remember that the ones taunting are few and the ones deserving criticism are few.

And the ones taunting are envious and think of us as privileged. Worse yet some think we don't deserve to live here and that our ability to live in The Villages just "fell on us". We know better. One of the reasons I love this place is because most of us got here by living and working for many decades and saving our money and many sacrificed many instant gratifications and luxuries in our lifetime to be able to retire to Florida and live here where there is an added amenity fee. We sidestepped many pitfalls because we were careful and frugal. No matter how little we made, we didn't live paycheck to paycheck, didn't waste money, didn't get the latest phone, expensive tattoos, or ate out every night. Some of us, after reusing our clothes, mending what was broken and being fiscally conservative, day after day, year after year became people with more money than they started out with. Most of us didn't steal, trick, scam or cheat to have a little or quite a bit extra in our old age.

We all know we are entitled to nothing and if we lost most of it, we know how to live without much. We did it before. We also know that the real value in life rests in those who we love and who love us.

Tankerrich 04-03-2020 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1739299)
I think the OP is hurt and angered as many are at the unfair taunts on social media about all villagers by some of those who live close by. It is hard not to be hurt and angered. In fact most of us are at least annoyed.

We have to try to remember that the ones taunting are few and the ones deserving criticism are few.

And the ones taunting are envious and think of us as privileged. Worse yet some think we don't deserve to live here and that our ability to live in The Villages just "fell on us". We know better. One of the reasons I love this place is because most of us got here by living and working for many decades and saving our money and many sacrificed many instant gratifications and luxuries in our lifetime to be able to retire to Florida and live here where there is an added amenity fee. We sidestepped many pitfalls because we were careful and frugal. No matter how little we made, we didn't live paycheck to paycheck, didn't waste money, didn't get the latest phone, expensive tattoos, or ate out every night. Some of us, after reusing our clothes, mending what was broken and being fiscally conservative, day after day, year after year became people with more money than they started out with. Most of us didn't steal, trick, scam or cheat to have a little or quite a bit extra in our old age.

We all know we are entitled to nothing and if we lost most of it, we know how to live without much. We did it before. We also know that the real value in life rests in those who we love and who love us.

Post #33
Excellent statement!!!!!!!

chipd331 04-03-2020 06:05 AM

I'm in NH. Did not make it to TV's this year
We have been under a state authorised quarantine for over two weeks now
not sure what people are doing, that you are all talking about but it doesn't mean you can't leave your home
if i were in FL i would be going for walks every day.
We go to the store and shop for food (being very careful to sanitize cart handle and staying a safe distance from others, that's it
Keep a bottle of sanitizer in your car, clean up after every visit to store.
CV19 can live up to 5 days on door handles and glass
That should be about it, maybe a car drive or a golf cart drive.
if people are gathering with friends, small groups etc. their crazy this stuff spreads like wildfire
People should be taking this very seriously
stay safe.

Nick B 04-03-2020 06:21 AM

Jackass?

bmit16 04-03-2020 06:22 AM

Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me. Mama said. Perhaps it is not the entitled but the people with the thin skin in this world who let everything bother them. She also said, mind your own business and you will be to busy to worry about everybody else's business. Both are great rules to practice in this time of retro living.

SacDQ 04-03-2020 06:23 AM

I believe most of us worked hard over the last fifty years. Put our children through college, saved and invested four the future. If that makes me entitled then I’m proud to embrace that banner.
😎

Jannygirl 04-03-2020 06:25 AM

Entitled, really?
 
I don’t know where you live, but in the village I live in I haven’t met any entitled, narcissistic, selfish, hmm what other hateful words were thrown out there. I’ve met helpful, caring, and friendly people. We all come from different states, we leave our families and friends, and after working and saving for 40 years we come to this beautiful place and form new friendships. No one gives us a house, this wasn’t a free ride. So until you can name these entitled people—just stop!! We have more important things to worry about

Lisa C 04-03-2020 06:30 AM

Good morning. First let me just say that as an "outsider" (I don't live in the villages) I am truly sorry for ANY negative comments made about Villagers. Sure, there are always a few bad apples in every group, but on the whole, my experience has been extremely positive.
I own and work alone in a one chair beauty salon in Wildwood (my only source of income) and 95% of my clients live in the villages. As of midnight last night my door is closed for 30 days. I am extremely anxious to think what will happen to me and my son this month. With that said, I worked 13 hours straight yesterday to try and stockpile a little extra cash. The clients I saw yesterday (mostly villagers) were SO kind and generous. My clients are some of the most wonderful people I have EVER met. Their kindness and generosity makes my heart smile. I am TRULY blessed to work where I do and to have met the villagers I know. They are not only my clients, but my FRIENDS as well. Have a super terrific day!!!


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