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The "Stay Home Order"
The “Stay Home” orders are so the spread of the virus can be stopped Don’t be selfish, please STAY HOME!
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Also think about the very brutal consequence if you get the virus or aid in passing it onto someone........
once you are designated to be hospitalized you will no longer be able to see/visit loved ones. The lady from Winifred who just recently passed away.....with a phone nearby communicating with family....how sad and terrible can that be..... While hospitalization is not a death sentence.....one does not or will not know until you get released!!!! Stay home and abide by the guidelines.....wear a mask if and when shopping....DON'T TOUCH YOUR FACE!!!!!!! |
And the Governor exempted Churches. Unfortunate Malfeasence
Email him and demand that he close churches governorRon.Desantis@eog.myflorida.com give you name and indicate that you live in TV. |
Political consequence is the top priority!
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Some posters seem to think it's okay for a government official, in this case the govenor, to enact a freeze or ban or pause on citizens constitutional rights to freedom of religion. What would be next? One govenor bans freedom of the press, another bans citizens from speaking about the virus, another announces confiscation of weapons from homes during this dangerous crisis. Once the first ball drops, this violation of rights would never end.
Personally, I don't think any gathering of any group is okay, church or other. But if we want to spit in the face of our very, very smart founders and start violating whatever article or ammendment to the Constitution we deem disposable, this country is not going to be in a good place. |
I cannot, for the life of me, understand a need for local, state, national orders!!!!! Good Lord, people. We are supposed to be a reasonably intelligent group of adults! How can anyone not want to take action, without someone ordering same, to stay home, stay safe and try to avoid illness or death???? It just baffles me !!!!
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Sad humans have to lead around like dogs on a leash...Due to lack of common sense
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Some are used to it already, their dogs have been leading them on their walks for sometime now.
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These measures are not about YOU, they are to protect everyone and no one, rights or not, has the right to threaten the lives of their fellow citizens. 👿 |
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"None are so blind as those who WiLL not see" |
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There is a current situation in CA where parishioners of a church have an inordinate number of positive virus tests due to assembling for worship and bible study. Who knows how many friends and neighbors they may have infected. There is another thread on TOTV that describes the loss of a relative and illness of a spouse and nephew due to contracting the virus perhaps from a shopping trip. It is for the good of all of us to not gather in groups, maintain social distancing, and sanitize ourselves and our environment as much as possible. |
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“Your God caused all this....” there is a difference between what God causes, and what He allows. That is a teaching. The teaching also says God (I hope you will allow me this reference) is the source of all good. So evil cannot emanate from Him.
But perhaps you know something the rest of us don’t. |
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Article IV, Florida Constitution - Ballotpedia Article IV, Florida Constitution Section 1 (d) The governor shall have power to call out the militia to preserve the public peace, execute the laws of the state, suppress insurrection, or repel invasion. Maybe I missed it but I didn't find anything in there about closing churches or Stay-at-Home orders - good idea or not - recommendations/advisories are far different from ordering any peaceful, law-abiding citizen to remain under house arrest! Feel free, however, to remain under self-imposed lockdown until this blows over :icon_wink: Fred |
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People who go on about their constitutional rights are totally, but totally missing the point! 👿 These measures are not about YOU, they are to protect everyone and no one, rights or not, has the right to threaten the lives of their fellow citizens. 👿 Quote:
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States can use Police Powers to enforce orders to protect the health and safety of citizens . Such orders can be enforced if they are generally applied and not specically aimed at practices of the specific religious group |
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Personally, in a health crisis like this, I think the government has the authority to prohibit gatherings such as at a church without denying anyone their freedom of religion. No constitutional amendment needed.
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The issue is not one of going to church or believing in God. The issue is whether it is morally or ethically appropriate for large groups of people to gather in an enclosed space given the ease this virus exhibits transferring from one to another. Worship is soothing but does not need a building to be achieved. Many religions are doing services on line. Not a bad idea. But as someone else said, you can worship without a service and anywhere.
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As I understand the orders in other states as well as Florida the stay at home orders are not literal and you can go out to exercise, grocery and other shopping, medical and a few other things. The focus is on social distancing, hand washing and disinfecting. If the Churches can comply then I assume they will be open but evidently the Churches here (and other areas) in The Villages don't believe they can and have stopped services to protect their parishioners. If you don't fear this virus that's ok then do what makes you happy, just don't infringe on my space because I do fear this virus. If you think you know more than the CDC, Governors, Health organizations then follow your belief but don't infringe on my space because I do believe they know more than I do. Help keep me and others alive.
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