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Bmillard11 04-05-2020 02:52 PM

Crosses
 
We are new to the Villages and while we realize there is conflict about the white crosses, we’d love to get one. Does anyone know where we might safely secure one at this time? We are in the Tiera Del Sol area.

DianeM 04-05-2020 03:57 PM

You state that you’re new. If you know the crosses cause conflict, why would you want to stir the pot at a time when many people have frayed nerves due to the virus and stay at home restrictions. You can display your faith in other ways in your home.

Bogie Shooter 04-05-2020 04:21 PM

:what:

karostay 04-05-2020 04:22 PM

Put up even an dozen..Freedom of speech

Challenger 04-05-2020 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmillard11 (Post 1740973)
We are new to the Villages and while we realize there is conflict about the white crosses, we’d love to get one. Does anyone know where we might safely secure one at this time? We are in the Tiera Del Sol area.

Are you aware that the placement of this ornament would be a violation of lawful Deed Restrictions. As we speak there is a pending suit against one resident at this time ? The American Center for Law and Justice was reputed to be representing this homeowner , but has reportedly now bailed. My guess is that the have now figured that it is a lost cause. See recent local news coverage.

Jayhawk 04-05-2020 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmillard11 (Post 1740973)
We are new to the Villages and while we realize there is conflict about the white crosses, we’d love to get one. Does anyone know where we might safely secure one at this time? We are in the Tiera Del Sol area.

You are new here and one of your first actions is to violate the deed restrictions you just signed? The ink probably isn't dry yet on the document and this is how you want to start off life in The Villages?

I just don't get it.

NotFromAroundHere 04-05-2020 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmillard11 (Post 1740973)
We are new to the Villages and while we realize there is conflict about the white crosses, we’d love to get one. Does anyone know where we might safely secure one at this time? We are in the Tiera Del Sol area.

A person on Madero Drive was making them. They just left them out near the curb for anyone help themselves to. I haven't seen any lately, though.

NotFromAroundHere 04-05-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1741011)
You are new here and one of your first actions is to violate the deed restrictions you just signed? The ink probably isn't dry yet on the document and this is how you want to start off life in The Villages?

I just don't get it.

What makes you so sure that they would be violating their deed restrictions?

Jayhawk 04-05-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere (Post 1741030)
What makes you so sure that they would be violating their deed restrictions?

Because they wrote, "we realize there is conflict about the white crosses". If it didn't affect them, I doubt the original post would have been made.

And Tierra del Sol is in a district that restricts them.

Challenger 04-05-2020 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere (Post 1741030)
What makes you so sure that they would be violating their deed restrictions?

Have you ever read your deed restrictions? Do you actually live in TV?

vintageogauge 04-05-2020 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bmillard11 (Post 1740973)
We are new to the Villages and while we realize there is conflict about the white crosses, we’d love to get one. Does anyone know where we might safely secure one at this time? We are in the Tiera Del Sol area.

Good way to get labeled a trouble maker by your new neighbors. Why not buy a flower or something you can plant and put a cross in you window or on your front door in a nice wreath. Try to add a little class to your new neighborhood instead of causing more conflict.

karostay 04-05-2020 05:55 PM

What would you rather see a white cross which is a violation ? Or a driveway lined with 20 faded flower pots filled with 1/2 dead plants which aren't in violation

Fredman 04-05-2020 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1741042)
What would you rather see a white cross which is a violation ? Or a driveway lined with 20 faded flower pots filled with 1/2 dead plants which aren't in violation

Village of chatham ?...???

Velvet 04-05-2020 06:20 PM

Because white crosses are used all over to indicate someone died there, they freak me out when they are casually put somewhere.

Mleeja 04-05-2020 06:38 PM

I believe Tierra Del Sol area is in District 2. The crosses are allowed in District 2.

NotFromAroundHere 04-05-2020 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1741036)
Have you ever read your deed restrictions? Do you actually live in TV?

Yes, and Yes.

I live in the "Tierra Del Sol" area. CDD 1. Nothing in there about crosses. Or lawn ornaments in general. Can't have any "signs or other advertisements". Pink flamingoes are okay. Menorahs are ok. Must have toilets.

NotFromAroundHere 04-05-2020 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1741034)
Because they wrote, "we realize there is conflict about the white crosses". If it didn't affect them, I doubt the original post would have been made.

And Tierra del Sol is in a district that restricts them.

Hmmm.... Sure about that?

Terri8352 04-05-2020 07:05 PM

There is a home on Madero Drive ( Village of Santo Domingo) that has them on his front lawn for free. Travel North on Morse, turn into the Village of Santo Domingo ( it will be on the left). Once on Madero Drive the house will be on the right. Sorry I do not know the house number.

Velvet 04-05-2020 07:07 PM

Well a couple of houses have them in my area although they are deed restricted, no one has reported them so far... but they keep some people at a distance.

DianeM 04-05-2020 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1741055)
Because white crosses are used all over to indicate someone died there, they freak me out when they are casually put somewhere.

They also remind me of the crosses the KKK used to intimidate people.

Challenger 04-05-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere (Post 1741070)
Yes, and Yes.

I live in the "Tierra Del Sol" area. CDD 1. Nothing in there about crosses. Or lawn ornaments in general. Can't have any "signs or other advertisements". Pink flamingoes are okay. Menorahs are ok. Must have toilets.

If you are not in an area with those restrictions, you are probably ok .

CWGUY 04-05-2020 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1740998)
Put up even an dozen..Freedom of speech

:confused: What's that in English? ;)

John_W 04-05-2020 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1741078)
They also remind me of the crosses the KKK used to intimidate people.

I drove up to Chapel Hill, NC in 1986 to pick up a custom bike I had ordered at Performance Bike Works. After you leave I-95 there was a good distance to travel on a 2 lane country road and then all of sudden you're in Chapel Hill. What was amazing was about a mile before the town there must of been a 20' tall cross in flames, like it had just been lit. It was pitch black outside but that cross should caught my attention. I don't think I would mistaken these little crosses for one of those.

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Originally Posted by vintageogauge
Good way to get labeled a trouble maker by your new neighbors.

Actually on my street I think I'm the troublemaker for not having one. More than half the villas on my block have a cross. When they first started a couple of years ago, I had no clue what it was about, like some have said, I thought someone had died until I started seeing more and more.

Byte1 04-06-2020 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1741078)
They also remind me of the crosses the KKK used to intimidate people.

If they bother you, then don't own one. Christians do not see it that way. Christians are reminded that Christ gave his life for them, so that they might have salvation and forgiveness for their sins. Christians look at the cross in a positive way. Heathens and (vampires:) ) fear the cross for what it represents.

prendymom 04-06-2020 05:04 AM

Go to the Village Wood shop. That is where they are made.

Challenger 04-06-2020 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1741133)
If they bother you, then don't own one. Christians do not see it that way. Christians are reminded that Christ gave his life for them, so that they might have salvation and forgiveness for their sins. Christians look at the cross in a positive way. Heathens and (vampires:) ) fear the cross for what it represents.

How do you feel about Satinists putting their symbols in the yard next door, maybe a large Budda , Or some kind of Atheist stuff. ? Really would like you to share your thoughts with us all. We may learn something .

MPLinzi 04-06-2020 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DianeM (Post 1740989)
You state that you’re new. If you know the crosses cause conflict, why would you want to stir the pot at a time when many people have frayed nerves due to the virus and stay at home restrictions. You can display your faith in other ways in your home.

Hahaha

srpack 04-06-2020 05:45 AM

There's a house on Madero close to Morse Blvd that usually has several in their yard for people to have.

Denvercane 04-06-2020 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1741055)
Because white crosses are used all over to indicate someone died there, they freak me out when they are casually put somewhere.

They freak you out.? Really? You must crash your car passing a grave yard! The white cross doesn't always mean death.

Skunky1 04-06-2020 05:48 AM

I believe Home Depot and Lowe’s are still open. I’m sure they have the wood that is necessary to make the cross and the paint necessary to paint the cross. where do you plan to put the cross? More important what does the cross represent to you?

jswirs 04-06-2020 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmillard11 (Post 1740973)
We are new to the Villages and while we realize there is conflict about the white crosses, we’d love to get one. Does anyone know where we might safely secure one at this time? We are in the Tiera Del Sol area.

I have not been here in TV very long, but I see these white crosses almost everywhere.
I don't know where you can get one, (I have one which I made myself), but I would not worry about deed restrictions. If it becomes a problem, just remove it. Welcome to The Villages.

Yvetteperry 04-06-2020 06:07 AM

Sorry for all the negative, snarky responses to your simple question. St. Timothy’s Church gave them out at one point. Not sure if they still do

sdeikenberry 04-06-2020 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by karostay (Post 1741042)
What would you rather see a white cross which is a violation ? Or a driveway lined with 20 faded flower pots filled with 1/2 dead plants which aren't in violation

I'd rather see neither...

stadry 04-06-2020 06:19 AM

didn't know there are deed restrictions re the Cross so it must also include magen (star of ) David, whatever muslims use ( schmitar ? ), etc,,, is this a general clause for ALL tv residences properties or just by district ?

Bay Kid 04-06-2020 06:21 AM

All we need is faith. Love our neighbors.

Leadbone1 04-06-2020 06:27 AM

It’s not your place to tell anyone how they should be able to display their faith. If someone has a problem with a small white cross, they are the problem

Leadbone1 04-06-2020 06:32 AM

Call some nurseries or lawn ornament businesses.. I am sure they will have something like this available to put up for Easter. It’s your constitutional right to put up A small white cross if you choose. Deed restrictions do not trump the constitution of the United States

Nick B 04-06-2020 06:32 AM

Atheists Don't deal no in the voodu symbols

Nick B 04-06-2020 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1741172)
Call some nurseries or lawn ornament businesses.. I am sure they will have something like this available to put up for Easter. It’s your constitutional right to put up A small white cross if you choose. Deed restrictions do not trump the constitution of the United States

I believe they do in Florida.

rlcooper70 04-06-2020 06:35 AM

If more and more put up white crosses .... does that make all non-Christians feel welcome? Or is the objective to make others feel unwelcome? I'm confused. Can we be Christians without the show on our front lawn?


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