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kcrazorbackfan 04-07-2020 08:11 PM

Seriously people, you are not invincible.....
 
Wear a freaking mask!

Picture this - you're riding behind another cart or even approaching another cart when someone that has been exposed (you really can't tell this, can you?) sneezes and you drive through the sneeze droplets. Guess what? You could get infected and by the looks of most of the people I've seen driving a cart without a mask, if you get infected, YOU COULD POSSIBLY DIE.

Mine is own from the time I leave the house to go to work until the time I get home.

You are not invincible - WEAR A FREAKING MASK.

npwalters 04-07-2020 08:29 PM

That scenario is WAY low on my list of things to worry about. I'll just continue to ride my bike without a mask. Guessing I'm more likely to be hit by a car than get sneezed on from long distance.

GoPacers 04-07-2020 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1742305)
Wear a freaking mask!

Picture this - you're riding behind another cart or even approaching another cart when someone that has been exposed (you really can't tell this, can you?) sneezes and you drive through the sneeze droplets. Guess what? You could get infected and by the looks of most of the people I've seen driving a cart without a mask, if you get infected, YOU COULD POSSIBLY DIE.

Mine is own from the time I leave the house to go to work until the time I get home.

You are not invincible - WEAR A FREAKING MASK.

Unless you somehow obtained an N95 mask, the mask is not intended to protect you. Furthermore, nobody is supposed to have an N95 mask other than medical personnel at this time.

The purpose of the mask is to protect others from you should you have the disease.

EdFNJ 04-07-2020 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1742309)
That scenario is WAY low on my list of things to worry about. I'll just continue to ride my bike without a mask. Guessing I'm more likely to be hit by a car than get sneezed on from long distance.


;) MIT sneeze study: New research shows sneezes can travel up to 200 feet.

Velvet 04-07-2020 08:35 PM

The mask is not for you...but still it can protect you from an unanticipated nearby cough or sneeze. Not wearing a mask in public is also advertising, “I don’t give a sh... about you.” In Laredo Texas you’d get $1000 fine for stepping outside your house without one.
Those Texans... always ahead.

kcrazorbackfan 04-07-2020 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1742309)
That scenario is WAY low on my list of things to worry about. I'll just continue to ride my bike without a mask. Guessing I'm more likely to be hit by a car than get sneezed on from long distance.

I guess you "bikers" would look funny wearing a mask along with your spandex.

To each, their own; I choose to try and protect myself as much as possible, you choose to play Russian roulette.

EdFNJ 04-07-2020 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1742314)
The mask is not for you...but still it can protect you from an unanticipated nearby cough or sneeze. Not wearing a mask in public is also advertising, “I don’t give a sh... about you.” In Laredo Texas you’d get $1000 fine for stepping outside your house without one.
Those Texans... always ahead.

For the most part they don't protect YOU from ME if you wear one they protect ME from YOU. Unfortunately, many people don't have access to masks or know how to sew. I guess we could wrap toilet paper around our faces, wait, not available. I guess a towel would work in a pinch and no we don't own a scarf. Maybe a Halloween mask except now they will be in short supply too. I guess I can always dress up as an orange panda if I can find animal masks at The Party Store.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-07-2020 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1742309)
That scenario is WAY low on my list of things to worry about. I'll just continue to ride my bike without a mask. Guessing I'm more likely to be hit by a car than get sneezed on from long distance.

The point is to keep YOUR germs off MY face, after you sneeze. If I'm behind you, I'm the one who ends up with the spray from your sneeze on my face.

If you aren't able to sneeze into your shoulder or elbow or a tissue, then wear a mask, and keep your germs away from everyone else.

njbchbum 04-07-2020 09:46 PM

kcrazorbackfan - Where are masks available to purchase? My friend has been to Sam's club pharmacy - was told they never sold them; CVS on Avenida Central - nope; grocery stores - nope; Home Depot - was told they were donated locally; Lowes - nope; Rural King - nope; Tractor Supply - nope. She doesn't sew and has no bandanas, hankerchiefs or scarves.

Where can she or her husband go to buy masks? Thanks

billethkid 04-07-2020 10:21 PM

If you are asymptomatic you don't know if you have it or are infected.

So ordering everybody to wear a mask takes care of those not knowing as well as the rest of us.

The "excuse" it is for those infected is not the point.

The point is, if you don't wear a mask as advised/ordered you may be contaminating your friend, your wife, your mother, grand daughter, the rest of us.

So knock off the I don't need to wear a mask bravado lip service and help the rest of us protect those around us....WEAR THE MASK!!!

queasy27 04-07-2020 10:28 PM

If there are no other options, people can try neck gaiters. Here are some on Amazon.

coffeebean 04-08-2020 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1742310)
Unless you somehow obtained an N95 mask, the mask is not intended to protect you. Furthermore, nobody is supposed to have an N95 mask other than medical personnel at this time.

The purpose of the mask is to protect others from you should you have the disease.

I'm still scratching my head about why the wearer of the mask is not protected to some degree. Actually, I did read an article that does say the wearer does have some degree of protection. Sorry, no link as I've been reading LOTS about coronavirus and I don't bookmark everything I read.

From where I'm sitting, if a home made mask can prevent droplets from a sneeze or cough from escaping into the air, then it should be able to stop droplets from entering the mask from the other side of the mask.

Two Bills 04-08-2020 04:39 AM

In all honesty, has anyone been in a queue, and had a person cough or sneeze near them?
On our rare ventures to shop for food, we have never heard or seen anyone do either.

coffeebean 04-08-2020 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1742321)
For the most part they don't protect YOU from ME if you wear one they protect ME from YOU. Unfortunately, many people don't have access to masks or know how to sew. I guess we could wrap toilet paper around our faces, wait, not available. I guess a towel would work in a pinch and no we don't own a scarf. Maybe a Halloween mask except now they will be in short supply too. I guess I can always dress up as an orange panda if I can find animal masks at The Party Store.

Paper towel, rubber bands and a stapler is all you need to make a face covering. It is better than nothing........

How to Make Improvised Paper Towel Mask - YouTube

Koapaka 04-08-2020 04:43 AM

And yet I was branded with a HUGE Scarlet letter A when I recommended doing this more than 2 weeks EARLIER on this very forum?????! Oh well, maybe there IS something to this "thinning of the heard" theory so many proclaim.

photo1902 04-08-2020 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoPacers (Post 1742310)
Unless you somehow obtained an N95 mask, the mask is not intended to protect you. Furthermore, nobody is supposed to have an N95 mask other than medical personnel at this time.

The purpose of the mask is to protect others from you should you have the disease.

There are plenty of people who have N95 masks, and have kept a supply on hand, for various jobs and tasks, long before this crisis.

Rwirish 04-08-2020 05:06 AM

Mask police.

golfing eagles 04-08-2020 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 1742374)
Mask police.

Lone Ranger???:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Now Tonto will have to wear one as well

Skunky1 04-08-2020 05:29 AM

How many people that live in the villages have died from this virus?? One person said one another person said Many!

golfing eagles 04-08-2020 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skunky1 (Post 1742384)
How many people that live in the villages have died from this virus?? One person said one another person said Many!

Experience

rlcooper70 04-08-2020 05:54 AM

Riding through a cloud of virus in a golf cart? Really? If you encounter such a cloud without a N95 Mask ... the other masks do little or nothing to protect you. Get real people. Stop panicking.

A mask will stop your own sneeze from being projected. A mask is a reminder for you to avoid touching your face. Those are the primary reasons to wear the mask.

Being in an enclosed room with a sneezer is dangerous .. being outside is safe whether you have a mask or not.

oneclickplus 04-08-2020 06:04 AM

I have masks from before the Sh-- hit the fan.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1742372)
There are plenty of people who have N95 masks, and have kept a supply on hand, for various jobs and tasks, long before this crisis.

But, this whole fiasco is such BS.

I'm not wearing a mask and no one is going to make me (or shame me) into doing so. The people who insist that I wear a mask are the same ones that insist I get a vaccine (for the flu or anything else). I've never gotten the flu vaccine and don't get the flu. You want to protect yourself? You can:

1) Go find an N95 mask
2) Stay home

My right to breathe freely overrides your right to leave your house. Damn world is upside down.

jeffy 04-08-2020 06:08 AM

Sorry, but many people legitimately have N95 masks. I have four because I do a lot of home projects. Had them many months prior to the virus. I stained our cabinets, sanded drywall, etc. They were all used so unable to donate them to medical personnel. Like those medical people, I do reuse them. I put them in a microwave for 15 seconds to “clean”. Don’t automatically judge someone when you may not have all the facts.

jmkeyzers 04-08-2020 06:13 AM

I don’t believe your scenario is reality or fear beyond a reasonable doubt. But if you think that is possible you should just stay home. Your more likely to get killed by a truck at an intersection.

Leadbone1 04-08-2020 06:14 AM

It’s not your place to think for us. If you want to wear your mask, wear it! Those of us that don’t wear them are doing what we feel we need to do to be safe. I wear gloves when I go to the store or pump gas and that is my thing. This is still the United States of America and we are free to do what we feel is right for ourselves. I personally don’t feel the masks do any good. My choice, not yours.

asianthree 04-08-2020 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1742305)
Wear a freaking mask!

Picture this - you're riding behind another cart or even approaching another cart when someone that has been exposed (you really can't tell this, can you?) sneezes and you drive through the sneeze droplets. Guess what? You could get infected and by the looks of most of the people I've seen driving a cart without a mask, if you get infected, YOU COULD POSSIBLY DIE.

Mine is own from the time I leave the house to go to work until the time I get home.

You are not invincible - WEAR A FREAKING MASK.

So far I haven’t noticed any spit on the windshield of the golf cart, but I will pay more attention next time.

goldbers 04-08-2020 06:24 AM

just take a T-shirt or a Suck and make one. For instructions check YouTube. It takes 10 seconds to make. Good luck.

brendayarema 04-08-2020 06:31 AM

You can easily make a mask with 2 layers of 100% cotton material accordion style folded and place a coffee filter in between the layers. Fold over each end over a rubber band. Simple but somewhat effective to go out. Masks help me remember not to put my hands near my nose or mouth so it is protection for me. Throw the coffee filter away and immediately wash (in machine) the material. Anything I can do is a plus in my book. Lots of good non-sew masks on the internet and the supplies are already in my home. Stay safe and healthy everyone.

kcrazorbackfan 04-08-2020 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1742342)
kcrazorbackfan - Where are masks available to purchase? My friend has been to Sam's club pharmacy - was told they never sold them; CVS on Avenida Central - nope; grocery stores - nope; Home Depot - was told they were donated locally; Lowes - nope; Rural King - nope; Tractor Supply - nope. She doesn't sew and has no bandanas, hankerchiefs or scarves.

Where can she or her husband go to buy masks? Thanks

My wife got on you tube and there are numerous places to make masks that you don’t have to sew up o.

chacruna 04-08-2020 06:33 AM

Maybe it's time to just stay home. What's more important, your health, possibly your life or golf?

riley2011 04-08-2020 06:37 AM

That’s not true anymore. Try watching the news.

Oregon47 04-08-2020 06:38 AM

I’m all for wearing a mask. I do when in an environment that will bring me into contact with others. But there is a misconception by some for the purpose of the mask. It is to protect others from you. It limits the dispersal of droplets you create, talking, coughing or sneezing. Yes, by wearing one you might not inhale something, but that would be a bullseye. More likely you’ll drive through the cloud, get it on your clothes and eventually transfer the virus to your face the next time you touch you nose or rub you eye.

kcrazorbackfan 04-08-2020 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devorejh (Post 1742425)
It’s not your place to think for us. If you want to wear your mask, wear it! Those of us that don’t wear them are doing what we feel we need to do to be safe. I wear gloves when I go to the store or pump gas and that is my thing. This is still the United States of America and we are free to do what we feel is right for ourselves. I personally don’t feel the masks do any good. My choice, not yours.

Oh, trust me that I wouldn’t dump my brain down enough to think like most of you people.

spieka1912 04-08-2020 06:42 AM

EBay has plenty of masks available.

Mohawksin 04-08-2020 06:48 AM

MIT = Massachusetts Institute of Tissues per the video in the 2014 article.

GaryKoca 04-08-2020 06:52 AM

Seriously Villages - the Mask
 
The Daily Sun had a front page story about making a mask from a t-shirt. I took an old t-shirt and cup it up the way they said, and it seems to work just fine.

dewilson58 04-08-2020 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spieka1912 (Post 1742458)
ebay has plenty of masks available.




be careful with ebay purchases.

Meboko 04-08-2020 06:55 AM

Flu shot
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1742419)
But, this whole fiasco is such BS.

I'm not wearing a mask and no one is going to make me (or shame me) into doing so. The people who insist that I wear a mask are the same ones that insist I get a vaccine (for the flu or anything else). I've never gotten the flu vaccine and don't get the flu. You want to protect yourself? You can:

1) Go find an N95 mask
2) Stay home

My right to breathe freely overrides your right to leave your house. Damn world is upside down.

I never had a flu shot either until I got the flu 4 years ago. If I wasn’t going to die, I sure felt like I was. I’m the first one in line for the flu shot now.

MOMOH 04-08-2020 06:55 AM

How on earth can anyone believe that a mask will protect medical personnel from getting the virus from the patients they treat, and yet they won't protect you and me from the same thing? Does their function magically change if you're a nurse or doctor? YES...they need them more than us...but one mask with an assortment of washable covers should do for most, as YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GOING OUT TO PLAY!

miharris 04-08-2020 06:57 AM

Do your research before you post. That link is to an article in Slate, and it is totally wrong. The study by Lydia Bouroiuba, a mathematician at MIT, shows that suspended particles can travel up to 2.5 meters before falling to the floor, in INDOOR conditions with no breeze and relatively low evaporation rates. Several prominent epidemiologists have stated that those particles found at the extreme of the range would be very unlikely to contain suffecient levels of a virus to cause an infection. Please, more science and less fear mongering.


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