Let’s do some good !!!
 

Here’s an idea. Let The Villages lead the way in supporting those in need. Here’s how:

Assume 100,000 Villagers will receive $1,200. That’s $120 MILLION. Now, assume most don’t really NEED this money and 1 out if every 4 would part with it.

Let’s set up a Villages Community Foundation registered with the IRS and the State as a bone fide charitable organization.

Take the money - as much as $30 million and start providing gifts, grants and/or loans to our less fortunate workers and business owners as needed.

Who knows, maybe the Morse extended family could throw in a large contribution (tax deductible ) for good measure.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE. I AM VERY SERIOUS.

If you agree, simply post your support now. If you believe you could offer meaningful ideas and would like to help in some way, send me an email and I will start a group.

We owe something to the cashiers, restaurant workers, shop owners and their employees and others who make this a great community.

Thanks for reading.

Dale Smith
Village of Collier
VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com

1. You have no idea who needs or does not need the stimulus check
2. The people you mention will also be receiving the same stimulus check
3. Owners of businesses can apply for loans, which will not need to be paid back, to pay the salaries of their employees
4. We all can tip generously if we do a pick up order for food
5. Doling out money to the masses kind of smacks of the liege Lord tossing crumbs to the peons. Talk about insulting.
Villagers are despised as it is. Let’s not make it worse.
6. The Morse family are not our parents. They owe us nothing.

No...the Morse Family owes nothing to anyone. Im not one to post groveling how they made TV for us, and this is heaven here because of them.

BUT....this is the community your grandfather started with great hopes to give retirees a wonderful place to live.

And not one word from them...billionaires.... just give something..say something...but no..nothing

Why should they? They are not our parents.

You have absolutely no idea what the Morse family does with their money and neither do I, nor do I care, but the difference between you and me is that I'm not letting envy and jealousy eat me up over how much money they have. I grew up poor, like a bowl of rice or a bowl of corn meal mush for supper poor. I'm not rich now but I have enough money to live comfortably in The Villages. I got here by hard work and determination to do better by my family than my parents were able to. I received no hand outs from rich people and never sought money from them. Poor people just like rich people are in the situation they live in because of decisions they made in their life. Some chose wisely, some chose poorly.

:ho: Thank you. :thumbup:

:shrug: So it's safe to say you are a "No" ? ;)

Thank you.

And I think the OP needs to think that a terrible economic situation is brewing and churning and as I said before it will probably get worse. It is even possible that people's company pensions may disappear. I think it wise in times of uncertainty to save your money and keep your money. Those needing it may be your own kin.

Poor people are poor because of decisions they've made? More likely they had the misfortune to be born in the wrong zip code and had poor schools. Florida school funding is among the lowest in the nation. Charter schools are a mixed bag for quality, not monitored for quality & safety and are not available to all kids. Oh, yes, what about discrimination against non-whites? Wasn't it Christ who said we should take care of the least of our brethren? Let loose with a few bucks for those who can most benefit.

You offer nothing but excuses. That is the crutch of lazy and incompetent people, it is never their fault always someone else has done them wrong. If you will do some research and reading you will find many poor white and minority individuals that overcame their obstacles and succeeded very well in their lives.

I'll relate a story a Hispanic friend of ours told me about her and her husband. Both of them grew up in a barrio in California to unmarried mothers living on welfare. Her mother encouraged her to drop out of high school, get pregnant and go on welfare so she could get a place to live and not have to work. It was a great life, sleep in and get paid. In school teachers didn't care if they turned in school papers and still gave them a passing grade so they could be moved through and out of the system. These are schools in the utopia of California where everything is so wonderful and equal. She and her husband individually made the decision to do as well in school as they could and graduate. The neighborhood they lived in was gang territory and it was hard to avoid getting in the wrong crowd. When she and her husband married they had a hard time with good paying jobs so he joined the army for an opportunity to better their lives. He has done well professionally in the military and living well. I met so many individuals in the army with similar stories who did what was necessary to better their lives. It's not impossible, not even difficult to change your life. What do people expect when they graduate from high school and not able to read or do math at the 6th grade level? It's all personal choice, nobody forced them to make the decisions they did.

Do you receive
The daily Sun? Do you read it?
I am not going thru the effort to look back thru this weeks Sun to find their comments...you can.

Christ also said that, paraphrasing here, if a man doesn't work he shouldn't expect to eat. Christ never advocated rewarding sloth and poor decisions. I have no problems with helping people who physically can't work or don't have the mental faculties to work.

Perfectly well said.

How do you propose we select the officers of this foundation ?

OP, what is VillagesCFoundation?

Something he wants to set up.

Thank you for the question. At the moment, I am just trying to gauge the interest in trying to do something for this community. Unfortunately, this thread has already deteriorated to one about issues of the poor and the Morse family.

Should there be a collective support to start a community foundation here, I would establish the corporation through the proper legal channels, and invite anyone and everyone who wishes to participate to a forum. Hopefully we will be able to gather without the use of electronica media at that point in time. Obviously the initial officers and required board would be pulled from those who have expressed a desire to work on behalf of this nonprofit.

I am interested. I would donate.

Are you talking about a nonprofit or a not-for-profit structure? What is your background that qualifies you to do this?

Community foundations are grantmaking public charities that are dedicated to improving the lives of people in a defined local geographic area. They bring together the financial resources of individuals, families, and businesses to support effective nonprofits in their communities. Frequently, communities will use this as a means of distributing someone’s extraordinary wealth that has been left with the foundation. I just saw this as an opportunity to secure a sizable amount of money through a small contribution by many that could then be used to benefit others within our lives. It’s soul purpose would not need to address the current situation and if enough money was raise, he could provide benefits to many for years.

Really. Have you researched this on Charity Navigator?

Thank you for your thoughts. I agree that this current situation is far from over and may well get worse economically. That said, here in the villages where the majority of homes are purchased without a mortgage, we are many if not most of our neighbors have been blessed with military pensions and corporate payments that are not likely to go away anytime soon, and win a contribution of $1200, or less, could be made when these funds were unexpected, seems to me to be a viable way to raise a sizable sum of money with which we could all do good and feel good about. As to the discussion of the Morse family, my point was simply that it would be a vehicle for them, and perhaps other very wealthy people, to provide more sizable amounts to help this effort.

I think if the Morse family wanted to do something like that.....they would.

Maybe they are. They don’t report to us.

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You have not taken into consideration that if people in TV are that well off they will not receive stimulus checks. Not fond of people who reach into my pocket. Hard NO for me.

1 - why don't we leave the Morse's out of this conversation ? If they wish to contribute after it is established they will.
2. - how do I get in on the ground floor. I want to be an officer but I want to be part of the establishment of this foundation from the ground up every step of the way.

The Foundation, if established would be a Florida corporation organized under IRS Code 501(C)(3) which requires detailed records, a Board and Officer structure and annual federal tax filing. I have extensive experience in running and serving on non profit Boards, but my personal interest at present is gauging if there is sufficient support at this important time when initial funding support could be a true community effort. Fe3l free to send questions or an expression of support to VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com.

Don't forget your hospital workers. Our nurses and docs do a great job but remember the EVS people who clean the rooms, security guards who keep you safe, Materials Management who see that everything is well stocked, cafeteria workers too. There are a lot of people who could use your kind donations.

Agreed. Email me at VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com. (No caps required)

Shoot an email to VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com. Thanks

Anyone wit gross income less than 75k gets a check regardless if assets. No one wants to get into your pocket. Think church, Salvation Army, etc.

Please email VillagesCFoundation@gmail.com. Thank you

If you are wanting to help people you don't need any village organization to do it for you. There are all kinds of charity organizations in the towns around the villages that will gladly take any donation you wish to make. Take your pick.

They get my charity. Not someone from out of the woodwork with their hand out supposedly for people who definitely will get a check. We have no clue who you even are. Nope. Not a chance. I repeat - hard NO.

Couldn't agree more!

I would just make two suggestions. One, the number of officers should be very limited, and the officers or anyone who does work for the 501c3, including lawyers, accountants, etc. cannot receive any compensation. And, two, the money should be gifts or grants, no loans. I think that would improve participation.

What will be the requirements for someone to receive monetary aid? Who is going to establish these requirements? How are you going to vet the applicants to insure they aren't running a scam? Who is goin going to vet the people running the organization? Who is going to pay for all the filings for this organization? What will it cost to do the filing? Is there going to be a public record for everyone to review on who got money and how much? How long is it going to take before the organization is legal and begin operation? Way too many questions that need answering.

There is already an organization that takes our money and redistributes,it's called the Government.Welfare Cadillac - Guy Drake (1970) - YouTube

Actually the more I contemplate this why do we need a middle man - I'm feeling good about my own plan of doing things like the next haircut I get I will pay double or triple since a I missed one. I have no problem in being a secret santa. I have no problem giving to organizations already in existence like community chest. Plus your answer to my question was how do I get to be on the board did not get answered duck duck goose. You have already put yourself in charge. Didn't even ask me my credentials. I'm out. If I were the Morse's I would be very silent at this time. How do you know they are not secret santas?