Golfers - Please don't golf on Exec. courses after 4
 

I was talking to an Ambassador... he said if golf is shut down in The Villages, it will probably be because people are sneaking on courses after the 4pm curfew.
There are "golf haters" taking pictures of golfers, and Community Watch has been told to patrol and call the sheriff if people on the course won't leave.
Maybe you golfed after hours before with no repercussions, but this is a different time.
Please don't be selfish...

Went to get mail yesterday, people walking their dogs on mangrove golf course. Course must be a dog park after 4:00 .

This has already been discussed on another thread with over 100 posts, you must of missed it. There is a difference between no teetimes after 4pm and the course is closed at 4pm. What we have is no teetimes after 4pm, and the course is always closed to walkers, joggers, dog walkers, bicyclist, residents and outsiders playing golf without going through the starter. Now, as far as what we really have. GolfingEagles explained it best on that other thread, here it is.

I kow your next comment is, don't shoot me I'm just the messenger, I'm just telling you what the ambassador said. I'm just telling you, what he said wasn't correct. What's correct is what GolfingEagles said.

I just don't want people WITHOUT a tee time to "jump" on the course and play. People do this. Golfing Eagles and I agree. If you have a tee time in the system (at or before 4pm... You're good.) If you sneak on the course without a tee time (after hours)... that's what will be a problem

GolfingEagles is dead wrong, it's been explained ad nauseam.
Steve.

About what?

Had a 3:57 tee time yesterday. Ambassador on the course couple hole behind us. We finished pick up food, on the way back, on same course 3 set of people out walking dogs.

Please explain, especially how I'm "dead wrong"

People should be fine for walking there dogs on golf courses and fine heavily they even walk them by the mailboxes also like they think it’s a dog park

What is it about these dog people? They closed the dog parks so they let their dogs run loose at the Wiechens preserve, against the rules, so that is now closed to people who want to see birds. Letting them walk on the golf courses, really? Walking them in public areas and by mailboxes where some do not clean up after their animals. It must get bad because there are signs asking people not to put dog feces in the garbage cans there. Most dog owners are responsible and considerate but the ones that are not are ruining for the rest of us. Stupid and ignorant.

I lived on the golf course for 9 years. I also lived within four houses of the mail center. The amenities provided for the residents, such as horse shoes, shuffleboard etc are never used due to the fact that the the areas around the postal center became a dog walk. Who wants to pick up a horse shoe where dog feces residue is on the ground. Urine on the sidewalk.
Sometimes the same people drive up two or three times a day in carts or cars to walk their dogs. The sod was replaced four times while I lived there. In addition, after the course closed, especially when it stays light longer, it became a dog walk. Dogs off leashes, playing frisbee. A meeting place for dog owners to walk there dogs on the golf path. I love dogs, it is the dog owners that have ruined and take our amenities away.

Looks like a severe case of the..... I saws

I saw some one with along leash

I saw some one walk on a golf cart path

I saw some one with an extra roll of toilet paper

I saw some one parked enjoying lunch in their golf cart

List goes On and On and on

Closed means closed. No walkers, with or without dogs. Stay off the courses PERIOD !!!!

Golf courses as Dog Parks
 

Why do people think the golf courses are dog parks? We Go for a golf cart ride everyday around 6 pm and lots of dog walkers on the courses.

I know the golf haters are infuriated because the pools and rev centers are closed. The non golfers feel like we are a privileged class - instead of cheering our ability to play safety they want to see it shut down. Haters are gonna hate...

Going to the dogs..
 

As if it’s not difficult enough to keep up the courses - they probably don’t pick up their dogs “Lincoln Logs” either

The ambassodor I spoke to yesterday before playing said they have instituted a new policy for those that are caught on the course "illegall" after 4. They will be told to leave the course and will have their golfing privileges revoked for 30 days.

Wow, just wow 😳.

Most weed choppers crap all over the courses and don’t follow simple rules. There will be always people who crap on rules.

By what authority

Judge Dredd - I AM THE LAW - YouTube

PLEASE 0bey the rules like everybody has to. You are NOT an exception.

GOOD GOOD GOOD what is the matter with people?

Rhode Island golfing
 

Rhode Island closed their courses to Rhode Islanders only. 3 Massachusetts residents joined a Rhode Islander, in his car, to play in R.I.
At the end of the round, they were greeted by the police. Because of their violation, they were fined $500 and face 90 days in jail. Before the courses are closed, heavy fines may be the way to go. Removing their playing privileges is another thought. Lets not let a few ruin for all.

Let's be honest, the only one being selfish is the Developer. They like to play dictator since they control the Villages.

Post #5 since 2015:popcorn:

Minority report duly noted.

They bring them into the supermarkets too, sometimes carrying them in their arms, sometimes wandering on retractable leashes where they can get their feces-eating faces right up to the bottom cereal box shelves...

Customers need to complain about that stuff if they see it happen. Since there's no responsibility on the dog owner to prove that his dog is a service dog, it's a liability issue to kick them out. But if a customer complains that the dog is doing something wrong, management can take action.

Service dogs need to be: 4 on the floor, on a 6' or shorter leash or harness, heel whenever the handler stops, follow close when the handler moves, and not be sniffing the merchandise. In other words - they MUST behave while they're "on duty." If they aren't on duty, they're not supposed to be in the store at all.

So here are the updated guidelines for golfing in The Villages during the current pandemic as posted by the villages management....

"Starting Wednesday, April 8, all Championship and Executive Golf Courses will close at 4:00pm following the last tee time. No tee times will be available after 4:00pm on any Championship or Executive golf courses. This means, anyone wishing to play golf must have a tee time prior to 4:00pm on any Championship or Executive course. Anyone found on a Championship or Executive golf course who did not have a tee time prior to 4:00pm will be asked to leave the course. As usual, all golf courses are for golfing traffic only."

Note the last sentence begins by "As usual". This is nothing new and has always been the rule for at least the 6 years that I have lived here. Golf courses can be a dangerous place for people out for a stroll and not paying attention. Heavy equipment used for maintenance can be actively working even if the course is closed. Many times I have noticed the maintenance crews out before the sun is up cutting the grass and taking care of other cleanup using their headlights to guide them. Do you really want to trust your life on whether they will seen you in time to avoid an accident as you casually stroll down the path with your dog? Please observe the rules and keep everyone safe. Just because you pay amenity/maintenance fees or trail fees does not give you the right to ignore the rules which are there for your safety first and not necessarily your convenience. Live with it!

dog parks
 

The reason people with dogs think golf courses replace dog parks are the same one who use my lawn. They feel entitled to let there dog do its business anywhere they take it other than their own lawn. There is such a thing as private property and rules.

Assuming the golfers are all off the course; what does this hurt?

I (gasp) walked the cart path on one of the courses yesterday about 7:30 PM. Golfers were long gone. Passed a few dog walkers. The dogs were on a leash, not on the greens or tee boxes, and - I assume - the owner was responsible enough to use a doggie bag if necessary. I just don't see a problem with this.

This is my understanding also. No golfing without a tee time period. Golfers who use the courses after 4 without a tee time, will ruin the playing for everyone because the next step is to close all courses all the time. Please don't ruin this for all. Make a tee time within the open hours.

The problem is that you do not own this property and are therefore technically trespassing. In the event that you were involved in an accident there are also potential liability issues for the owner. Would you consider it acceptable to walk around your neighbors property when they are not home after they specifically asked you not to? I would hope not. Be considerate and just follow the rules, Please!

Why 4PM
 

Why would they make a 4PM tee time cut off in the first place, and how does people playing after 4PM, illegally, cause the 4PM cut off and possible complete shutdown?

thank you:icon_wink:

You did not answer the basic question. Since I pay the same amenity fee as everyone else and IF it is well after hours with no golfers - what harm is being done? Why should anyone on this site care?

I believe this policy originally started when the Championship courses found themselves without enough employees to fill all the the positions necessary to man the starter shacks and the pro shop. Therefore, they began to shut down the pro shops at 2 pm after everyone from the afternoon wave should have checked in. This left only the slots for the starter shacks and the ambassadors to fill.

If by "on this site" you are referring to Talk of The Villages the answer is that eventually those few who choose to ignore the rules will cause the courses to be shut down for the rest of us. As to who does and does not pay amenity fees I cannot see how that gives you the right to trespass. By the way, you did not mention whether you paid the trail fees or not (not that it matters).

There is no problem of keeping non golfers from the courses all the time. Has been that way since I first became a Villager (2002).....and has not been a problem.

Well, well a new Developer basher.