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Leadbone1 05-16-2020 09:26 PM

I’ll wait for an answer...!
 
Our Florida governor has authorized all outside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart and now 50% of all inside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart. All good!
Yesterday I posted about the music being stopped at Gators because killjoys complained that we irresponsible people were not social distancing as we should be? I felt The Villages was out of line in stopping that as it makes no sense!
So, I have the following question for all the social distancing geniuses and the villages?
(“Why is it OK for 2 to 5 people to be sitting close while sharing tables as long as those tables are 6 feet apart, but if those same 2 to 5 people were sitting in folding chairs listening to music within the same distance of each other, that would be violating the social distancing guidelines”)
Take your time with your answer, I’ll wait...

Topspinmo 05-16-2020 09:35 PM

You’re talking to the wrong experts here? It you want answers from somebody in charge?

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-16-2020 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1766215)
Our Florida governor has authorized all outside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart and now 50% of all inside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart. All good!
Yesterday I posted about the music being stopped at Gators because killjoys complained that we irresponsible people were not social distancing as we should be? I felt The Villages was out of line in stopping that as it makes no sense!
So, I have the following question for all the social distancing geniuses and the villages?
(“Why is it OK for 2 to 5 people to be sitting close while sharing tables as long as those tables are 6 feet apart, but if those same 2 to 5 people were sitting in folding chairs listening to music within the same distance of each other, that would be violating the social distancing guidelines”)
Take your time with your answer, I’ll wait...

Because Gator's is not public property.
The Villages owns the property that Gator's rents from them.
The Villages decides what can and cannot be done on its property.
The Villages has decided that public outdoor entertainment is not allowed yet.
Gator's violated that decision.

That's why.

joseppe 05-16-2020 09:38 PM

Just my opinion, but people of different households should not be sitting at the same table. Otherwise I agree, no different than your other scenario. But just because any given situation seems to violate the guideline does not intone that all other situations that violate should be then be OK.

CWGUY 05-16-2020 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1766222)
Because Gator's is not public property.
The Villages owns the property that Gator's rents from them.
The Villages decides what can and cannot be done on its property.
The Villages has decided that public outdoor entertainment is not allowed yet.
Gator's violated that decision.

That's why.

:icon_wink: Someone needs to talk to Margarita Republic..... they have had outside entertainment. :ohdear:

Topspinmo 05-16-2020 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1766215)
Our Florida governor has authorized all outside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart and now 50% of all inside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart. All good!
Yesterday I posted about the music being stopped at Gators because killjoys complained that we irresponsible people were not social distancing as we should be? I felt The Villages was out of line in stopping that as it makes no sense!
So, I have the following question for all the social distancing geniuses and the villages?
(“Why is it OK for 2 to 5 people to be sitting close while sharing tables as long as those tables are 6 feet apart, but if those same 2 to 5 people were sitting in folding chairs listening to music within the same distance of each other, that would be violating the social distancing guidelines”)
Take your time with your answer, I’ll wait...


See!!!!!!....

OrangeBlossomBaby 05-16-2020 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1766226)
:icon_wink: Someone needs to talk to Margarita Republic..... they have had outside entertainment. :ohdear:

Won't be me. I have no horse in this race. Just commenting on the remarkable lengths people will go to, to justify poor behavior and lack of consideration for humanity in general. And somewhat surprised that the childish attitude comes from supposed senior adults who should know better. "They do it, why can't I?" Seriously? You all never got the "because I'm the mom, that's why" lecture when you were 7?

DDVeteran 05-16-2020 10:19 PM

In every segment of life there will always be people who feel that rules do not apply to them.

thomp679 05-16-2020 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1766232)
Won't be me. I have no horse in this race. Just commenting on the remarkable lengths people will go to, to justify poor behavior and lack of consideration for humanity in general. And somewhat surprised that the childish attitude comes from supposed senior adults who should know better. "They do it, why can't I?" Seriously? You all never got the "because I'm the mom, that's why" lecture when you were 7?

100% agree. This 'all of me' angle is disturbing.

YouNeverKnow 05-16-2020 10:30 PM

Belle Glade Outdoor Music and Dancing.
 
Is outdoor music allowed or not?
Played golf at Belle Glade this afternoon and finished up about 7:00. Lots of people outside eating with tables spaced. However, there was live music and a singer on the outdoor patio and many people were up dancing and partying just like old times.
No social distancing happening on that dance floor. People might say well just don’t go there or why do you care about what they are doing.
I guess because if they are not social distancing and unknowingly spreading the virus and I end up next to them in the grocery store or at an appointment in an office type situation that’s unavoidable then that’s when their behavior affects the rest of us who are trying to follow the guidelines for staying safe by distancing.
If they were just affecting themselves I say Party On and have at it with each other!
Sadly this is not the case with this virus.

coffeebean 05-16-2020 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1766215)
Our Florida governor has authorized all outside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart and now 50% of all inside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart. All good!
Yesterday I posted about the music being stopped at Gators because killjoys complained that we irresponsible people were not social distancing as we should be? I felt The Villages was out of line in stopping that as it makes no sense!
So, I have the following question for all the social distancing geniuses and the villages?
(“Why is it OK for 2 to 5 people to be sitting close while sharing tables as long as those tables are 6 feet apart, but if those same 2 to 5 people were sitting in folding chairs listening to music within the same distance of each other, that would be violating the social distancing guidelines”)
Take your time with your answer, I’ll wait...

This is confusing to me too. We were in Beef O'Brady's today for lunch. They have tables 6 feet apart but there are tables of 8 set up for customers. This is inside, no masks and 4 people sitting shoulder to shoulder and 4 people sitting across the table sitting shoulder to shoulder. Where is the social distancing to that?

Who is mandating these guidelines? Are they not thinking this through? If tables of 8 inside sitting so close with no masks are within the guidelines, then why even bother to request social distancing at all? Oh....and all the employees are wearing masks but that does no good if there is an asymptomatic patron sitting among seven others in close proximity. Where is the logic in this?

BamaBoy451 05-16-2020 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1766226)
:icon_wink: Someone needs to talk to Margarita Republic..... they have had outside entertainment. :ohdear:

Observed that as well there with social distancing and no one have busted them over it. I think something else lies beneath R.G. Gator getting jerked. All it takes is an accusation these days.

golfing eagles 05-17-2020 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaBoy451 (Post 1766251)
Observed that as well there with social distancing and no one have busted them over it. I think something else lies beneath R.G. Gator getting jerked. All it takes is an accusation these days.


Salem, MA, 1692-93

Medtrans 05-17-2020 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow (Post 1766247)
Is outdoor music allowed or not?
Played golf at Belle Glade this afternoon and finished up about 7:00. Lots of people outside eating with tables spaced. However, there was live music and a singer on the outdoor patio and many people were up dancing and partying just like old times.
No social distancing happening on that dance floor. People might say well just don’t go there or why do you care about what they are doing.
I guess because if they are not social distancing and unknowingly spreading the virus and I end up next to them in the grocery store or at an appointment in an office type situation that’s unavoidable then that’s when their behavior affects the rest of us who are trying to follow the guidelines for staying safe by distancing.
If they were just affecting themselves I say Party On and have at it with each other!
Sadly this is not the case with this virus.

The ad for Belle Glade and I believe Bonifay states live music but clearly states “no dancing”. So I guess as long as they state it, they don’t really have to monitor it?

Leadbone1 05-17-2020 05:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1766248)
This is confusing to me too. We were in Beef O'Brady's today for lunch. They have tables 6 feet apart but there are tables of 8 set up for customers. This is inside, no masks and 4 people sitting shoulder to shoulder and 4 people sitting across the table sitting shoulder to shoulder. Where is the social distancing to that?

Who is mandating these guidelines? Are they not thinking this through? If tables of 8 inside sitting so close with no masks are within the guidelines, then why even bother to request social distancing at all? Oh....and all the employees are wearing masks but that does no good if there is an asymptomatic patron sitting among seven others in close proximity. Where is the logic in this?

Thank you! You are the first person that actually addressed the question that I asked. And you also realized, unlike many of the others, that these so-called rules make absolutely no sense. But there are still paranoid people out there that want to complain about others even though If they thought about it for a minute they would realize how ridiculous it is just like you and I have.

Leadbone1 05-17-2020 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouNeverKnow (Post 1766247)
Is outdoor music allowed or not?
Played golf at Belle Glade this afternoon and finished up about 7:00. Lots of people outside eating with tables spaced. However, there was live music and a singer on the outdoor patio and many people were up dancing and partying just like old times.
No social distancing happening on that dance floor. People might say well just don’t go there or why do you care about what they are doing.
I guess because if they are not social distancing and unknowingly spreading the virus and I end up next to them in the grocery store or at an appointment in an office type situation that’s unavoidable then that’s when their behavior affects the rest of us who are trying to follow the guidelines for staying safe by distancing.
If they were just affecting themselves I say Party On and have at it with each other!
Sadly this is not the case with this virus.

That post did not answer my question! Why were you worried about the people on the dance floor not social distancing, but you were OK with the same people sitting at a table having dinner not social distancing? The point I’m trying to make, which is not easy around here, is that the social distancing rules are ridiculous and ineffective. But because some Talking Heads on television kept repeating that to everyone, nobody stops to think about whether it makes any sense? You can’t hide from this virus or any other virus forever.

Leadbone1 05-17-2020 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1766222)
Because Gator's is not public property.
The Villages owns the property that Gator's rents from them.
The Villages decides what can and cannot be done on its property.
The Villages has decided that public outdoor entertainment is not allowed yet.
Gator's violated that decision.

That's why.

Your reply did not answer my question at all?? I don’t know that music is not allowed anywhere? Don’t think you do either? My question was about the hypocrisy of the so-called social distancing rules?

Leadbone1 05-17-2020 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1766220)
You’re talking to the wrong experts here? It you want answers from somebody in charge?

Well, I don’t think anybody that is so-called in charge can logically answer the question I asked?

Rwirish 05-17-2020 05:25 AM

Because TV owns the property and can make that decision, period.

Leadbone1 05-17-2020 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joseppe (Post 1766224)
Just my opinion, but people of different households should not be sitting at the same table. Otherwise I agree, no different than your other scenario. But just because any given situation seems to violate the guideline does not intone that all other situations that violate should be then be OK.

Well at least you’re one of the only people that sort of answered the question. My point is to point out the hypocrisy and the uselessness of the social distancing rules. 66% of the people that got Covid in New York we’re locked down in their houses. Because some so-called experts use the phrase social distancing enough on television, no one ever stop to think whether it made any sense.

dkintzer1 05-17-2020 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1766232)
Won't be me. I have no horse in this race. Just commenting on the remarkable lengths people will go to, to justify poor behavior and lack of consideration for humanity in general. And somewhat surprised that the childish attitude comes from supposed senior adults who should know better. "They do it, why can't I?" Seriously? You all never got the "because I'm the mom, that's why" lecture when you were 7?

Maybe, because at 7 years you only had that much experiences. Now adding 65 more years on to that; most people are able to judge for themselves what is best for them. When I am in your house, I comply with your rules and when I am not, I think for myself. You may not like my thinking and that's your right. However, I continue to think for myself weather you choose to object or not.

Ray Greene 05-17-2020 05:32 AM

Are we not smart enough at this age to make our own decisions As to what is safe? If you make the wrong decision the consequences are all yours! You have to live or die with them!

Jtown 05-17-2020 05:54 AM

Its still comes back to (everyone has choices to make ) ! We all want a life to live . Make it be the best you can for self , but also remember and THINK about other people as well . Non of us are perfect

woderfulwendy1 05-17-2020 05:55 AM

If you disagree, have your food and groceries delivered. Do virtual/face time Dr. visits and you never have to leave your house and let others do what they think is right at this point. There most likely be a upward trend in about 1 plus weeks once every thing starts getting back to normal. What will you do if there is no vaccine for 6 more months or longer? We can't stay locked down forever.

bonrich 05-17-2020 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Greene (Post 1766294)
Are we not smart enough at this age to make our own decisions As to what is safe? If you make the wrong decision the consequences are all yours! You have to live or die with them!

It says it all. You are the one caretaker of your life, but you could impact others.
A Dermatologist warns you to wear sunscreen or cover your head in bright sun or you will be back to me to scrape off that cancer from your face and arms. Or please put on your seat belt when you drive the car, and an accident happens and it is fatal to the person with no seat belt. If you take care of yourself, it will impact others. Simple, not hard to understand. Could go on forever with examples of what we would do instinctevly so why it make it so difficult to enjoy our life as it is, for now, it will get better.

danglanzsr 05-17-2020 06:04 AM

And yet only 70 Villagers got Covid-19
 
Out of approximately 120,000 people only about 70 Villagers have been diagnosed with Covid-19. The UF health system announced it has had no admission for Covid-19 in three weeks. There are no Covid-10 patients in any UF hospital at the moment.

What that means to me is the likelihood that I will be sitting within six feet of an infectious individual anywhere in The Villages is low enough that I don't worry about it. If a person is highly vulnerable and/or severely risk adverse, they are free to remain home. But, please give it a rest for the rest of us.

Leadbone1 05-17-2020 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1766293)
Your reply didn’t answer my question at all. You just come with that silly “I am the mom” and that’s the way it is answer. We are not children and the villages is not our mother. Some of us actually question whether the rules make any sense before we decide to follow them blindly. Some of you don’t

Quote:

Originally Posted by woderfulwendy1 (Post 1766302)
If you disagree, have your food and groceries delivered. Do virtual/face time Dr. visits and you never have to leave your house and let others do what they think is right at this point. There most likely be a upward trend in about 1 plus weeks once every thing starts getting back to normal. What will you do if there is no vaccine for 6 more months or longer? We can't stay locked down forever.

Well, I can point out some hypocrisies in that also. You order your groceries by phone or online. And by the time they get to your house they have been touched by how many people? There is no question there will be more cases reported because we’re doing more testing. The relevant thing is hospitalization and or mortality’s which is dropping drastically. This virus is not a problem to 95% of the people that get it. I agree that we can’t stay locked down forever. That’s not what human beings do. Ask for a vaccine? Not saying I wouldn’t take it but I would wait at least a year to see what kind of issues might arise from it?

DecaturFargo 05-17-2020 06:09 AM

Thank you for your response. Never seen such childish behavior, except from children.

Leadbone1 05-17-2020 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danglanzsr (Post 1766308)
Out of approximately 120,000 people only about 70 Villagers have been diagnosed with Covid-19. The UF health system announced it has had no admission for Covid-19 in three weeks. There are no Covid-10 patients in any UF hospital at the moment.

What that means to me is the likelihood that I will be sitting within six feet of an infectious individual anywhere in The Villages is low enough that I don't worry about it. If a person is highly vulnerable and/or severely risk adverse, they are free to remain home. But, please give it a rest for the rest of us.

Exactly!

Reggie2383 05-17-2020 06:13 AM

The phrase Social Distancing is becoming OBNOXIOUS . People are gregarious by nature and if this is how life is going to be until there is a cure, it is going to be a pretty sad commentary. We are in the home stretch here , for those of who think you are going to live forever, have fun sitting your house social distancing with your masks on. I want to enjoy what time I have left on this earth.There is no proven science to this lockdown. You can’t say we are pulling through this because of the so called rules. The experts predicted hundreds of thousands would die even with the lockdown. I’m over it.As for the complainers, sounds like their are too many Golf Cart Ladies in TV. You know the social justice warriors who have their nose in everyones business. If your afraid stay home leave the rest of us alone.

Girlcopper 05-17-2020 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1766222)
Because Gator's is not public property.
The Villages owns the property that Gator's rents from them.
The Villages decides what can and cannot be done on its property.
The Villages has decided that public outdoor entertainment is not allowed yet.
Gator's violated that decision.

That's why.

Exactly. And several people at one table is allowed if from the same family. And as earlier, if you dont like the setup, stay home!

Ginpappas 05-17-2020 06:30 AM

What?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Reggie2383 (Post 1766316)
The phrase Social Distancing is becoming OBNOXIOUS . People are gregarious by nature and if this is how life is going to be until there is a cure, it is going to be a pretty sad commentary. We are in the home stretch here , for those of who think you are going to live forever, have fun sitting your house social distancing with your masks on. I want to enjoy what time I have left on this earth.There is no proven science to this lockdown. You can’t say we are pulling through this because of the so called rules. The experts predicted hundreds of thousands would die even with the lockdown. I’m over it.As for the complainers, sounds like their are too many Golf Cart Ladies in TV. You know the social justice warriors who have their nose in everyones business. If your afraid stay home leave the rest of us alone.

How about "Social Responsibility" is that less "obnoxious"? What I hear when I listen to people who think like you, is I'm going to drink and drive and if you don't want me to kill you with my car - stay off the roads... How is that different? We are being asked to help keep each other safe by wearing a mask and giving each other space - our parents or grandparents who suffered through so much with wars, depressions, scarcities, and other real world issues are ashamed of us.

Leadbone1 05-17-2020 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1766319)
Exactly. And several people at one table is allowed if from the same family. And as earlier, if you dont like the setup, stay home!

If from the same family? Do you really think that’s the case? You are ridiculous. I don’t like the set up and I’m not staying home. And I have a lot of company!

La lamy 05-17-2020 06:35 AM

This is probably not going to be a popular post, but I always find the patio music at Gators WAY TOO LOUD. I wish I was in TV right now so I could enjoy reading by the lake in a quiet way!

karostay 05-17-2020 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DecaturFargo (Post 1766312)
Thank you for your response. Never seen such childish behavior, except from children.

This proves it! As we age our mentality gets younger
Childish behavior abounds here

HimandMe 05-17-2020 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DDVeteran (Post 1766243)
In every segment of life there will always be people who feel that rules do not apply to them.

And people who feel it’s their sole responsibility to point out every slight no matter how small.

Topspinmo 05-17-2020 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1766248)
This is confusing to me too. We were in Beef O'Brady's today for lunch. They have tables 6 feet apart but there are tables of 8 set up for customers. This is inside, no masks and 4 people sitting shoulder to shoulder and 4 people sitting across the table sitting shoulder to shoulder. Where is the social distancing to that?

Who is mandating these guidelines? Are they not thinking this through? If tables of 8 inside sitting so close with no masks are within the guidelines, then why even bother to request social distancing at all? Oh....and all the employees are wearing masks but that does no good if there is an asymptomatic patron sitting among seven others in close proximity. Where is the logic in this?

Maybe they are for families?

sjgreene5 05-17-2020 06:55 AM

I agree also they shut down people sitting at the outside bar at all the FMK restaurants even though the people were at least 6 feet apart. What is the difference from sitting 6 feet apart at an outside bar or 6 feet apart at a table. This used to be a free country, sad to see a few Villages "Nazi's" can take that freedom away. They have a choice not to go out and to wear masks but we don't have a choice to have fun while adhering to the rules by the government.

Pamelaroberts 05-17-2020 07:07 AM

People are living in fear and end up spreading this unrealistic terror. Use common sense! Wash your hands and dont touch hour face. Get back to living people!

Marathon Man 05-17-2020 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leadbone1 (Post 1766215)
Our Florida governor has authorized all outside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart and now 50% of all inside dining as long as tables are 6 feet apart. All good!
Yesterday I posted about the music being stopped at Gators because killjoys complained that we irresponsible people were not social distancing as we should be? I felt The Villages was out of line in stopping that as it makes no sense!
So, I have the following question for all the social distancing geniuses and the villages?
(“Why is it OK for 2 to 5 people to be sitting close while sharing tables as long as those tables are 6 feet apart, but if those same 2 to 5 people were sitting in folding chairs listening to music within the same distance of each other, that would be violating the social distancing guidelines”)
Take your time with your answer, I’ll wait...

Because it gives people who like to be angry and complain something to be angry at and complain about.


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