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Advogado 05-24-2020 01:37 PM

Stop by the Arnold Palmer Country Club Restaurant for a Corona
 
I just walked by the Palmer Country Club. The course, itself, seems CDC compliant-- even six-foot-apart painted lines by the starter's shack. Then I looked up at the restaurant-- no masks on the servers. So, after safely playing 18 holes, you can stop at the restaurant for a burger, beer, and the COVID-19 virus.

If it can be proved that one of the servers had the virus and a couple of patrons die as a consequence of contracting it there, however much liability insurance the Club has won't be enough.

thelegges 05-24-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770345)
I just walked by the Palmer Country Club. The course, itself, seems CDC compliant-- even six-foot-apart painted lines by the starter's shack. Then I looked up at the restaurant-- no masks on the servers. So, after safely playing 18 holes, you can stop at the restaurant for a burger, beer, and the COVID-19 virus.

If it can be proved that one of the servers had the virus and a couple of patrons die as a consequence of contracting it there, however much liability insurance the Club has won't be enough.

So which attorney have you put on speed dial

CWGUY 05-24-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1770356)
So which attorney have you put on speed dial

He's an attorney! :1rotfl: (Portuguese)

gatorbill1 05-24-2020 01:58 PM

Will walk out of any restaurant that servers do not have masks on. Don't care what one

Advogado 05-24-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1770356)
So which attorney have you put on speed dial

My estate will not need one because there is no way that I will be dining there unless and until the management shows enough concern about its staff and patrons to have its staff mask up.

Advogado 05-24-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CWGUY (Post 1770365)
He's an attorney! :1rotfl: (Portuguese)


In my real life, I was an attorney. I still remember enough law to know that a restaurant that doesn't have its employees wear masks is not only socially irresponsible, it is running a significant liability risk.

In fact, if you follow the news closely, you will see that businesses are lobbying for liability protection if they reopen. Google "Covid-19 liability risk". A restaurant that doesn't have its employees wear masks is not only threatening the lives of its customers and employees, it it being just plain stupid in risking liability.

Marathon Man 05-24-2020 03:23 PM

Maybe you could go in and have a beer. Then take them to court for wrecklessly endangering your life.

anothersteve 05-24-2020 03:42 PM

You would think a lawyer would state his case to be a little more believable. If I was on a jury and had to pass verdict on that post alone, It would be a Palmer not guilty.
Steve

Advogado 05-24-2020 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1770414)
You would think a lawyer would state his case to be a little more believable. If I was on a jury and had to pass verdict on that post alone, It would be a Palmer not guilty.
Steve

Steve, you would not make it to the jury. Welcome to the real world.

anothersteve 05-24-2020 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770422)
Steve, you would not make it to the jury. Welcome to the real world.

Ouch! That hurt. :ohdear:

Steve

EdFNJ 05-24-2020 04:08 PM

Was at Fresh Market yesterday buying ribs ($3.99 lb!!! :) ) and all 3 employees in the meat department were wearing masks but they were all pulled down onto their top lip. That is in a store that "requires" masks to be worn by customers.

Advogado 05-24-2020 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1770427)
Was at Fresh Market yesterday buying ribs ($3.99 lb!!! :) ) and all 3 employees in the meat department were wearing masks but they were all pulled down onto their top lip. That is in a store that "requires" masks to be worn by customers.

Yeah. Despite almost 100,000 deaths in this country alone, Villagers being in the high-risk-of-death category, and the number of deaths rising, many local businesses (and a few posters on this site) still have a cavalier attitude about common-sense ways to mitigate the spread.

thelegges 05-24-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770466)
Yeah. Despite almost 100,000 deaths in this country alone, Villagers being in the high-risk-of-death category, and the number of deaths rising, many local businesses (and a few posters on this site) still have a cavalier attitude about common-sense ways to mitigate the spread.

But how many deaths have there been in TV from Covid? Not everyone here is in the high risk of death. Some still die of old age, cancer, MI, or auto accident. Can’t blame Covid on those deaths, well some might.

UF hasn’t had a new case in almost 4 weeks.

Before you speak of cavalier attitude, there are those on this site who are risking their own lives, that don’t have the time to worry about things they cannot change. They do not have time to be in fear, some may think that’s a cavalier lifestyle, others say it’s a calling

photo1902 05-24-2020 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770345)
I just walked by the Palmer Country Club. The course, itself, seems CDC compliant-- even six-foot-apart painted lines by the starter's shack. Then I looked up at the restaurant-- no masks on the servers. So, after safely playing 18 holes, you can stop at the restaurant for a burger, beer, and the COVID-19 virus.

If it can be proved that one of the servers had the virus and a couple of patrons die as a consequence of contracting it there, however much liability insurance the Club has won't be enough.

So you had on a mask of course, right?

billethkid 05-24-2020 09:39 PM

And what did the manager say when you told him your concern for their operation?

Timothyimitchell 05-24-2020 09:56 PM

99.84% survival rate. Open everything up and get back to living now!

JFPLYMOUTH 05-24-2020 11:56 PM

If you dont like their new standards...just dont go. Money usually talks. For those that are less afraid...more room for them to social distance themselves while there.

Garwood1 05-25-2020 04:56 AM

How about if you give the virus to a server , they are the ones at risk , you going to be liable ?

allus70 05-25-2020 05:01 AM

The mortality rate is about 1.3%
Do the math.....1.3% of 328,000,000
A 1% mortality rate means it is 10-times more lethal than the seasonal flu

golfing eagles 05-25-2020 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770396)
In my real life, I was an attorney. I still remember enough law to know that a restaurant that doesn't have its employees wear masks is not only socially irresponsible, it is running a significant liability risk.

In fact, if you follow the news closely, you will see that businesses are lobbying for liability protection if they reopen. Google "Covid-19 liability risk". A restaurant that doesn't have its employees wear masks is not only threatening the lives of its customers and employees, it it being just plain stupid in risking liability.

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Originally Posted by Garwood1 (Post 1770593)
How about if you give the virus to a server , they are the ones at risk , you going to be liable ?

As an attorney, I'm sure you realize that proving one specific potential exposure by a preponderance of the evidence is probably impossible given the numerous potential exposures every day. Likewise, it would be impossible to single out a single customer that transmitted the virus to a server.
Just be picky during voir dire, you wouldn't want me empaneled on THAT jury:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

dewilson58 05-25-2020 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770345)
however much liability insurance the Club has won't be enough.


Don't worry.................there is plenty of coverage, the value of an old person is quite low. :MOJE_whot:

Viperguy 05-25-2020 05:38 AM

Time for tort reform.

Timothyimitchell 05-25-2020 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by allus70 (Post 1770595)
The mortality rate is about 1.3%
Do the math.....1.3% of 328,000,000
A 1% mortality rate means it is 10-times more lethal than the seasonal flu

50 % of those cover deaths, are NOT cover deaths. Stop watching CNN. Open up this country or we will not have a country.

Leadbone1 05-25-2020 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770345)
I just walked by the Palmer Country Club. The course, itself, seems CDC compliant-- even six-foot-apart painted lines by the starter's shack. Then I looked up at the restaurant-- no masks on the servers. So, after safely playing 18 holes, you can stop at the restaurant for a burger, beer, and the COVID-19 virus.

If it can be proved that one of the servers had the virus and a couple of patrons die as a consequence of contracting it there, however much liability insurance the Club has won't be enough.

What a ridiculous post! I personally don’t like it when the servers have masks on. First of all the masks that 99% of people have on are useless. I would prefer to just have a clean looking server that was good at their job. Also, if you ever did get coronavirus how could you ever prove that you got it from a server at Palmer? Ridiculous. I am so sick of the paranoia that I hear out here daily. Just stay home!

Dana1963 05-25-2020 06:04 AM

I agree 100% just irresponsible. I would just leave too, thank you for informing us.

Leadbone1 05-25-2020 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 1770576)
99.84% survival rate. Open everything up and get back to living now!

Thank you! I am so sick of the overreaction to all of this. Never thought I would see the people of this country give up their rights and become paranoid so easily

Rwirish 05-25-2020 06:12 AM

The mask police.

DrBrutyle109 05-25-2020 06:14 AM

If you don’t like the setup...... don’t go in

Ginpappas 05-25-2020 06:29 AM

I agree!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770345)
I just walked by the Palmer Country Club. The course, itself, seems CDC compliant-- even six-foot-apart painted lines by the starter's shack. Then I looked up at the restaurant-- no masks on the servers. So, after safely playing 18 holes, you can stop at the restaurant for a burger, beer, and the COVID-19 virus.

If it can be proved that one of the servers had the virus and a couple of patrons die as a consequence of contracting it there, however much liability insurance the Club has won't be enough.

I went there and no masks and no social distancing (Social Responsibility) and so I won't be back either. That is all I can do is support the places that are taking my health seriously and if that sounds paranoid I'm ok with that

woderfulwendy1 05-25-2020 06:41 AM

Go somewhere else for a Corona.

Bay Kid 05-25-2020 06:46 AM

Trolls are everywhere.

msilagy 05-25-2020 06:51 AM

Many people don't know this but Palmer's outdoor restaurant seating was going strong all during the shut down of restaurants. I know several people that went there, ate on the patio with servers. It was touted as the place to go during the shutdown.

jeffy 05-25-2020 06:53 AM

Such hateful responses on all sides ☹️. Some people believe it is just common courtesy to wear a mask , others don’t. Just as in religion or politics, you won’t change someone’s mind because they know the “truth”.

Friendliest Hometown......

Bethwill 05-25-2020 07:26 AM

Disagree with the lawsuit part. The patron can CHOOSE not to dine there, so they are accepting risk by going there.

chuckpedrey 05-25-2020 07:39 AM

I just searched the wed for virus data in Sumter County and found a chart that shows that as of May 20 there were 253 reported cases of COVID-19 in Sumter County and 19 deaths

TNLAKEPANDA 05-25-2020 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770345)
I just walked by the Palmer Country Club. The course, itself, seems CDC compliant-- even six-foot-apart painted lines by the starter's shack. Then I looked up at the restaurant-- no masks on the servers. So, after safely playing 18 holes, you can stop at the restaurant for a burger, beer, and the COVID-19 virus.

If it can be proved that one of the servers had the virus and a couple of patrons die as a consequence of contracting it there, however much liability insurance the Club has won't be enough.

Just don’t go! You have a choice but you can not force others to do what you think is best!

riamd1954 05-25-2020 08:07 AM

Oh stop the nonsense if you we’re going to get you already would !!

Advogado 05-25-2020 08:15 AM

The following is a quote from Dr. Shanti Akers, MD, who treats COVID-19 patients. The posters here who denigrate the importance of wearing masks to protect other people (and to some extent themselves) and to help stop the spread of the virus might want to reflect on it.

“Not wearing a mask is a sign of your privilege. It means that, even in a pandemic, with thousands of people dying, you have not been touched by sorrow. Trust me, if you had actually seen Covid-19 in action, ravaging the human body, you’d be wearing the damn mask.”

moe1212 05-25-2020 08:20 AM

I wonder what out country would be like if all of our incredible veterans had decided to stay home and play it safe instead of fighting for out FREEDOM

remarks006 05-25-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1770345)
I just walked by the Palmer Country Club. The course, itself, seems CDC compliant-- even six-foot-apart painted lines by the starter's shack. Then I looked up at the restaurant-- no masks on the servers. So, after safely playing 18 holes, you can stop at the restaurant for a burger, beer, and the COVID-19 virus.

If it can be proved that one of the servers had the virus and a couple of patrons die as a consequence of contracting it there, however much liability insurance the Club has won't be enough.

The idiots are everywhere, most Villagers seem to be considerate of keeping us all a little healthier, but the ones that don’t care seem to gather in the same spots, it makes it look bad when people don’t care , unfortunately it won’t convince some until it hits home , and a friend or relative catches the Virus.
Remember , we may be the Friendliest Villages , but not the SMARTEST😔


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