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PennBF 06-07-2020 08:26 AM

Any Other Creative Ideas
 
I was visiting with a friend who owned some Jeweler stores and we got into the discussion of customers who cheated on payment, (e.g. bad checks, had a account but did not make payments,etc.). The question was what is a fair way of recovering
your loss. His way was what ever ethnic group the cheater was in would be slowly over charged until the loss was paid up. It did not matter if you Italian, Irish, Afro-American you paid for your ethnic group cheater. The Jeweler said this was the only
fair way he could see to cover the loss. His logic was each ethnic group should take pride in their name and not stand for anyone disgracing it for any reason.
Now we have the riots. Could the police identify the ratio of ethnic groups arrested and home addresses and tax those in the districts they come from in ratio to the ones who rioted and were arrested. That may be a basis to start those populations to understand the cost of destruction, stealing, rioting, and get them to start controlling the the bad seeds. I know this will bring out the lot of do gooders, and a bunch of rationals why it is a stupid solution. Given this is coming a simple question is what is your alternatives to pay for the destructions and stealing and loss of business?:ohdear:

alwann 06-07-2020 09:13 AM

Payback
 
I think Hitler had similar beliefs. Your jeweler friend needs a good tax accountant to write off the losses.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-07-2020 12:27 PM

So ever ethnic group should pay for the sins of one, and how will that work besides the fact that the jeweler is also cheating. Fraud is wrong but it also is built into most business plans , and how would we know these different groups , should we have everyone wear a star with his ethnic group on it , How about the millions of peaceful demonstrators, should they all pay for the looters or should the looters who are responsible pay whatever price when legally arrested . The thought that I’m even answering this post means I have to much time on my hands now

Jayhawk 06-07-2020 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1779060)
His way was what ever ethnic group the cheater was in would be slowly over charged until the loss was paid up. It did not matter if you Italian, Irish, Afro-American you paid for your ethnic group cheater. The Jeweler said this was the only fair way he could see to cover the loss.

Fair? Fair?

Please name names and let us know who this slimeball is so we won't go near his business.

John_W 06-07-2020 12:42 PM

With almost everyone in America who has a job, has a credit card in his pocket. Why is he even taking checks? I owned two businesses for a total of 25 years and never accepted a check. I had only one chargeback on a credit card in all that time, and that even included the 1980's when had to call an '800' number to approval for a card. That chargeback was on a foreign purchase, so after that, no more international orders.

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Stu from NYC 06-07-2020 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1779060)
I was visiting with a friend who owned some Jeweler stores and we got into the discussion of customers who cheated on payment, (e.g. bad checks, had a account but did not make payments,etc.). The question was what is a fair way of recovering
your loss. His way was what ever ethnic group the cheater was in would be slowly over charged until the loss was paid up. It did not matter if you Italian, Irish, Afro-American you paid for your ethnic group cheater. The Jeweler said this was the only
fair way he could see to cover the loss. His logic was each ethnic group should take pride in their name and not stand for anyone disgracing it for any reason.
Now we have the riots. Could the police identify the ratio of ethnic groups arrested and home addresses and tax those in the districts they come from in ratio to the ones who rioted and were arrested. That may be a basis to start those populations to understand the cost of destruction, stealing, rioting, and get them to start controlling the the bad seeds. I know this will bring out the lot of do gooders, and a bunch of rationals why it is a stupid solution. Given this is coming a simple question is what is your alternatives to pay for the destructions and stealing and loss of business?:ohdear:

So if I am a law abiding citizen I should pay for the acts of someone else who he thought was of same ethnicity as me as was crooked?

Sorry not the right way to do business.

PennBF 06-07-2020 01:56 PM

Not the Place
 
This kinda proves the theory that you can find a critic on any corner but it is hard to find a positive person with new and creative idea. This was kinda thrown out to try to see if there were any new and fresh ideas to help the poor people who lost their business and in some cases their lives by a mass of rioting thugs. It was so deluded with bad logic, a known improper and impossible solution as to not really make any kind of reasonable sense. But unfortunately it did not stimulate the creative readers to offer up a solution to this awful unrest. It ended up as a pathway for the non creative to vent their anger. Guess this was not the place to look for creative new solutions and ideas!:ohdear:

Polar Bear 06-07-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1779327)
This kinda proves the theory that you can find a critic on any corner but it is hard to find a positive person with new and creative idea...:ohdear:

IMO, you can’t post an idea with such obvious racist and ethnic overtones and then find fault with the people who point them out. :ohdear:

Stu from NYC 06-07-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1779346)
IMO, you can’t post an idea with such obvious racist and ethnic overtones and then find fault with the people who point them out. :ohdear:

So very true

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-08-2020 09:35 AM

Creative solutions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1779327)
This kinda proves the theory that you can find a critic on any corner but it is hard to find a positive person with new and creative idea. This was kinda thrown out to try to see if there were any new and fresh ideas to help the poor people who lost their business and in some cases their lives by a mass of rioting thugs. It was so deluded with bad logic, a known improper and impossible solution as to not really make any kind of reasonable sense. But unfortunately it did not stimulate the creative readers to offer up a solution to this awful unrest. It ended up as a pathway for the non creative to vent their anger. Guess this was not the place to look for creative new solutions and ideas!:ohdear:

or the final solution , that was tried in Germany somehow it didn’t work completely but not for lack of trying .

charlieo1126@gmail.com 06-08-2020 09:52 AM

Anger because people don’t agree , I’m going to use a word I haven’t used since I was a kid so it might be spelled wrong , not anger but flabbergasted , is the only and last word I’ll say on this

PennBF 06-08-2020 01:10 PM

Had to point out
 
I have to point out that the response to the meaningless illustration of an example of a suggestion that had little if any merit were absent of any creative ideas. It appears all read the proposal and then attacked it BUT ignored the request for an alternate creative solution? It's a sad thing when positive idea's take the back seat to the ease of attacking and being negative? Where are the creative ideas, the thinkers? We have a population of residents who have a wealth of experience and education and it is going to waste.It will be interesting to see how many have excuses for this behavior?:ho:

Stu from NYC 06-08-2020 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1780011)
I have to point out that the response to the meaningless illustration of an example of a suggestion that had little if any merit were absent of any creative ideas. It appears all read the proposal and then attacked it BUT ignored the request for an alternate creative solution? It's a sad thing when positive idea's take the back seat to the ease of attacking and being negative? Where are the creative ideas, the thinkers? We have a population of residents who have a wealth of experience and education and it is going to waste.It will be interesting to see how many have excuses for this behavior?:ho:

Didnt know we were being asked for other ideas.

Do not take checks only cash or credit card payments.

davem4616 06-09-2020 08:51 AM

Ha, the OP 'baited' people with the BS unethical ethnic punishment story and then cries foul that folks react to that and didn't 'see' or respond to their 'one line' request for creative ideas at the very end of a large paragraph

next time lead with the question

alwann 06-09-2020 12:31 PM

Suggestions
 
PenBF:

If you wanted suggestions and not a hornet's nest of opinions, you didn't have to say much more than]:Given this is coming a simple question is what is your alternatives to pay for the destructions and stealing and loss of business?[/I]

Your lede graph disguised the intent of your question.

Stu from NYC 06-09-2020 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alwann (Post 1780718)
PenBF:

If you wanted suggestions and not a hornet's nest of opinions, you didn't have to say much more than]:Given this is coming a simple question is what is your alternatives to pay for the destructions and stealing and loss of business?[/I]

Your lede graph disguised the intent of your question.

Very true sorry now I gave a suggestion

jimbomaybe 06-09-2020 01:11 PM

The solution is the same it has always been, raise your prices to make up for the the loss, or move your business to some place that has less of a problem, Having your business looted and gutted is a strong motivator to seek opportunities else where

John41 06-29-2020 07:42 PM

I think most merchants use a form of what your jeweler friend does. markup the cost to cover looting as an expenses because it isn’t covered by insurance. but they apply the up charge to all customers, so in a minority neighborhood prices need to be higher because of the crime.

joseppe 06-30-2020 02:39 AM

Financial restitution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1779060)
I was visiting with a friend who owned some Jeweler stores and we got into the discussion of customers who cheated on payment, (e.g. bad checks, had a account but did not make payments,etc.). The question was what is a fair way of recovering
your loss. His way was what ever ethnic group the cheater was in would be slowly over charged until the loss was paid up. It did not matter if you Italian, Irish, Afro-American you paid for your ethnic group cheater. The Jeweler said this was the only
fair way he could see to cover the loss. His logic was each ethnic group should take pride in their name and not stand for anyone disgracing it for any reason.
Now we have the riots. Could the police identify the ratio of ethnic groups arrested and home addresses and tax those in the districts they come from in ratio to the ones who rioted and were arrested. That may be a basis to start those populations to understand the cost of destruction, stealing, rioting, and get them to start controlling the the bad seeds. I know this will bring out the lot of do gooders, and a bunch of rationals why it is a stupid solution. Given this is coming a simple question is what is your alternatives to pay for the destructions and stealing and loss of business?:ohdear:

Trying to weed out and charge costs to different ethnic groups is more effort, work and cost than just doing what is currently done, raise prices across the board to all customers to absorb the loss. Better yet, as most businesses do build it into your overall pricing plan just like large retailers who for example have a 2% return allowance built into their pricing.

As for the costs incurred due to the riots ... As usual we're all going to pay for that. If the government bails out then its with our tax dollars. If businesses raise prices to cover the costs of recovery we again all pay for that. Even the people doing the rioting will be part of the cost recovery ... if they're part of main stream america who hold jobs and pay taxes.

With the costs of recovery from riots and from COVID you can expect you'll be shelling out more money over the next few years to pay for all of it. Effectively, we're all going to pay ourselves those stimulus checks and then some.

Stu from NYC 06-30-2020 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbomaybe (Post 1780749)
The solution is the same it has always been, raise your prices to make up for the the loss, or move your business to some place that has less of a problem, Having your business looted and gutted is a strong motivator to seek opportunities else where

You nailed it


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