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michtofla 06-08-2020 03:29 PM

George Floyd
 
Look up George Floyd’s police record. He was a career criminal and a thug. It was terrible the way he died but he was going to get it one way or another sooner or later!

blueash 06-08-2020 03:41 PM

Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

John_W 06-08-2020 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1780074)
Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

Your statement makes no sense. Use the language you use with your friends. If I was talking to my friends about George Floyd, I would say he's was thug. You live in gutter, you die in the gutter. He should of got 20 years for armed home invasion, he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while 5 others ransacked the house. He was lucky they offered a plea bargain and served five years. How many friends, people, others do you know that have served five years in prison for armed robbery?

https://greatgameindia.com/wp-conten...sault-2009.jpg

Rango 06-08-2020 03:53 PM

He was murdered by a police officer. His record does not matter

anothersteve 06-08-2020 03:56 PM

And away we go..............again
Steve

Stu from NYC 06-08-2020 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1780074)
Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

It is a tragedy that he was murdered but he was not exactly a good citizen that we would be proud to have as our neighbor. And yes would characterize him as a thug.

manaboutown 06-08-2020 04:15 PM

Well, he certainly was not an upstanding citizen walking down the street minding his own business who was hassled because he was black. That's for sure. I seriously doubt these cops were arresting him because he was black. He was under the influence and had an amazingly long record of drug convictions as well as the aggravated robbery conviction where he had held a gun to a (black) woman's stomach.

Is anyone else wondering why he left Texas where he had lived much of his life? Do they have something like a three strikes and you're out rule meaning life imprisonment with no parole for another conviction?

Looks like they do.

"The Three Strikes Law in Texas and Other States
Texas’ three strikes law was first enacted in 1952. California’s law was passed in 1994. After three separate felony convictions, an individual is subject to a life sentence in prison. The law and others like it in other states was enacted to cut down on recidivism – offenders who go on to commit future crimes. Lawmakers believe that career criminals can’t be rehabilitated. To stop them from continuously committing crimes and tying up the justice system, they impose harsh penalties after a third offense.

In most states with repeat offender laws, the law only applies to felony convictions. About half the states in the country have some form of a three-strike law."

From: Does Texas Have a Three Strikes Law? - Mark Diaz

600th Photo Sq 06-08-2020 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rango (Post 1780082)
He was murdered by a police officer. His record does not matter

John W points out and shows what type of person this person was. And people like you choose to ignore it.

This man was a born again hoodlum, rotten to the core and yet thousands ignore it.

Jayhawk 06-08-2020 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueash (Post 1780074)
Perhaps you could just use the language you use with your friends to describe this victim of police brutality. We all know what you mean when you say thug.

Dictionary:

thug

/THəɡ/

Learn to pronounce

noun


a violent person, especially a criminal.
"he was attacked by a gang of thugs"


What do you mean when you say it?

Gpsma 06-08-2020 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 600th Photo Sq (Post 1780110)
John W points out and shows what type of person this person was. And people like you choose to ignore it.

This man was a born again hoodlum, rotten to the core and yet thousands ignore it.

And #WhiteMuffins who never lived in black communities or worked with black workers will never understand.

And I have....

manaboutown 06-08-2020 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1780136)
And #WhiteMuffins who never lived in black communities or worked with black workers will never understand.

And I have....

Understand what?

In the army I played in the band and was the only white guy in the RA barracks for a couple of months. Too, I was a jazz drummer, and played in bands where color did not matter as no one paid any attention to it. I have been the only white man in a black (unlicensed) night club where I had the pleasure of seeing and listening to Lionel Hampton play.

Perhaps we musicians are different...

vintageogauge 06-08-2020 05:32 PM

No man, good or bad, deserves to be killed they way he was. This is going to be like every other episode of protest and riot due to police brutality, nothing will be accomplished, a few crumbs will be tossed out to quiet those protesting and that's where it will end. Anyone that believes disbanding police departments is a good thing is an idiot, the cities that do that will end up like Deadwood, the wild, wild, west over again.

billethkid 06-08-2020 05:32 PM

Yes his record does matter.

retiredguy123 06-08-2020 06:10 PM

I find it disturbing that the OP and most posters on this thread are just stating facts and logical conclusions. But, they are immediately labeled as racists.

I also find it interesting that it is okay for Obama to use the term "thugs" but not other people. Obama is not even black. He's half black.

Velvet 06-08-2020 06:35 PM

Whatever language we use to describe Floyd, he was a person and as a person he had rights and one of them was not to be suffocated.

Stu from NYC 06-08-2020 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1780178)
Whatever language we use to describe Floyd, he was a person and as a person he had rights and one of them was not to be suffocated.

Nobody is saying that he was not murdered, it was a tragedy and the murderer should be punished.

Sad that his death was used as an excuse to loot and destroy

DeanFL 06-08-2020 08:43 PM

...Not to minimize GF's death at the hands of police but>>>

wonder if any of the lberal Press has mentioned THIS?>>>>>>



By Robert Gearty | Fox News

CHICAGO'S CRIME WAVEPublished 6 hours ago
Chicago sees its deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours: report

Bloody Chicago recorded 18 murders on May 31, making it the city’s deadliest day in 60 years.

The dubious milestone was reached on a day Chicago was roiled by another round of protests and looting following the Memorial Day death of George Floyd in police custody in Minneapolis.

The 18 deaths tallied by the University of Chicago Crime Lab made May 31, 2020 the single-most violent day in six decades, the Chicago Sun-Times reported Monday. The Crime Lab numbers go back only to 1961.

Chicago sees its deadliest day in 60 years with 18 murders in 24 hours: report | Fox News

Steve9930 06-08-2020 08:58 PM

George Floyd died because of a heart attack brought on by the stress of the confrontation and the drugs in his system. He's no martyr for me. He chose his life style. The police on the scene were off the rails and have been charged with their crimes. The real martyrs were the innocent shop owners who lost their business and the people who were killed by the thugs in the protest. The data does not support all this outrage. The incident was used by ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter to forward their agendas. Both of those organizations are terrorist in nature. This whole ordeal has made it virtually impossible to get justice for anybody involved. I'm pretty much done with it and had enough.

riley2011 06-09-2020 05:30 AM

What’s wrong with thug? If the shoe fits.......

bowlingal 06-09-2020 05:33 AM

yes, it was a terrible act by the police, and should be punished accordingly. However, everyone is making him out to be a saint and he was not.

Chloe Girl 06-09-2020 05:35 AM

I totally agree that Floyd's death was a tragedy and am glad that the cops that were involved will be punished for killing him. But I hate the fact that Floyd is being held in such high esteem because a Martin Luther King he wasn't and his rap sheet proves it. So, some folks want to abolish the law and order of the police. Let's see how they like living in anarchy!!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-09-2020 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1780178)
Whatever language we use to describe Floyd, he was a person and as a person he had rights and one of them was not to be suffocated.

I haven't heard anyone that disagrees with that.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-09-2020 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlcooper70 (Post 1780284)
Is police brutality justified by the criminal's record? What about civil society? The president wanted to call in the military last week ... the generals stood in his way ... if they had not would that have been called "martial law"? If he had declared martial law would the conservatives have objected? Or would they blame the liberals?

Who is saying that police brutality is justified? The officers have been charged with a crime and will stand trial.

What else would you like to see happen?

The actions of a few bad apples in our police force are not a reason to change and entire system.

Incidents of police brutality are few and far between. Incidents of the police killing someone while arresting them are ever more rare. Yet there are some that want to use this for political purposes and benefit from all of the publicity, protests and demonstrations.

The thing is that in six months this will all have blown over, the protests, riots and demonstrations will end and it will be a footnote in history.

martynpat 06-09-2020 05:52 AM

His record and character aren't in question. The question here is police use of excessive force. When a man is handcuffed and not breathing he is subdued. Force beyond that is murder. What happened to protect and serve?

Mrodmh 06-09-2020 05:53 AM

Google Tony Timpa. How much did his life matter?

DeeCee Dubya 06-09-2020 06:10 AM

Texas Justice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 1780101)
Well, he certainly was not an upstanding citizen walking down the street minding his own business who was hassled because he was black. That's for sure. I seriously doubt these cops were arresting him because he was black. He was under the influence and had an amazingly long record of drug convictions as well as the aggravated robbery conviction where he had held a gun to a (black) woman's stomach.

Is anyone else wondering why he left Texas where he had lived much of his life? Do they have something like a three strikes and you're out rule meaning life imprisonment with no parole for another conviction?

Looks like they do.

"The Three Strikes Law in Texas and Other States
Texas’ three strikes law was first enacted in 1952. California’s law was passed in 1994. After three separate felony convictions, an individual is subject to a life sentence in prison. The law and others like it in other states was enacted to cut down on recidivism – offenders who go on to commit future crimes. Lawmakers believe that career criminals can’t be rehabilitated. To stop them from continuously committing crimes and tying up the justice system, they impose harsh penalties after a third offense.

In most states with repeat offender laws, the law only applies to felony convictions. About half the states in the country have some form of a three-strike law."

From: Does Texas Have a Three Strikes Law? - Mark Diaz

Gotta love Texas justice. I spent almost 8 years in the Lone Star State and had to deal with violent young black males all the time.

Mardarlowe 06-09-2020 06:12 AM

I know the language I use to describe him is spot on.

Skunky1 06-09-2020 06:14 AM

Innocent until proven guilty. Protect and serve.

WesMan 06-09-2020 06:16 AM

The Truth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1780080)
Your statement makes no sense. Use the language you use with your friends. If I was talking to my friends about George Floyd, I would say he's was thug. You live in gutter, you die in the gutter. He should of got 20 years for armed home invasion, he held a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach while 5 others ransacked the house. He was lucky they offered a plea bargain and served five years. How many friends, people, others do you know that have served five years in prison for armed robbery?

https://greatgameindia.com/wp-conten...sault-2009.jpg

The truth comes out!!!!!

npmcnmom 06-09-2020 06:18 AM

Absolutely correct

melcirullo@sbcglobal.net 06-09-2020 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michtofla (Post 1780061)
Look up George Floyd’s police record. He was a career criminal and a thug. It was terrible the way he died but he was going to get it one way or another sooner or later!

Maybe your not aware that this isn't about GEORGE FLOYD!

jeffy 06-09-2020 06:30 AM

Quote........ That's how they justify and hide their racism/bigotry/prejudice. :bigbow:

Dust Bunny 06-09-2020 06:33 AM

After seeing his photo and learning both he and the cop worked the same club as security red flags started popping up for me. No Iam not surprised he was a career criminal.

MOMOH 06-09-2020 06:33 AM

I think that if someone knelt on your neck for 9 minutes while others held you down, you might see things clearly and understand what this is about.

nututv 06-09-2020 06:43 AM

I'm glad that all you folks that take offense to the correct description of this guy being called a Thug won't be on my side when the poo hits the fan. lol
:popcorn:

JulieER 06-09-2020 06:44 AM

He did NOT deserve to be slowly MURDERED by a POLICE OFFICER, thug or no thug!!!! The bad cops are killing good black people as well. They need to GO!!!

jweber555@gmail.com 06-09-2020 06:45 AM

Yes, he had a criminal history but he WAS Murdered.

Bmacs 06-09-2020 06:45 AM

So was the cop!

JulieER 06-09-2020 06:46 AM

Characterize the MURDERER.

JulieER 06-09-2020 06:50 AM

The oppression that the black people live under, the fear they have every day. The moms and dads that have to raise their children coaching them constantly how to respond and act around a white cop or they could end up dead.


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