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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-14-2020 05:35 PM

Cop Shoots Man in Atlanta
 
I watched the video of this tonight and what I saw was the cops stopped a car. They felt that the driver was under the influence so they gave him a field sobriety test. It looked to me that they were about to give him a breathalyzer. He grabbed the officers taser and started running. The officer gave chase and at one point the man turned and fired the taser at the officer. The officer returned fire and killed the man.

Was that shooting justified?

The police chief has resigned, the officer has been fired and his partner suspended.

anothersteve 06-14-2020 05:43 PM

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...r-hats-307693/

Steve

dewilson58 06-14-2020 05:43 PM

missed a significant detail.................the thug started to physically fight the officers once an officer got behind him to handcuff him.


guess he was never taught not to fight an officer.

Kenswing 06-14-2020 05:49 PM

I hope the officer sues for wrongful termination. He will win..

Stu from NYC 06-14-2020 05:54 PM

Guess the police do not have the right to defend themselves anymore

retiredguy123 06-14-2020 05:55 PM

Another detail was that they did give him a breathalyzer test, which he failed. Resisting arrest is a crime, which, I think, should be prosecuted more often to prevent these incidents and protect the police.

But, apparently, the guilty person was the owner of the Wendy's restaurant. I guess that is why someone burned down his restaurant and put him out of business.

dewilson58 06-14-2020 06:08 PM

Fight with an officer, you have a good chance of being shot.

No matter what color you are, or what color the officer is.

It's not a color issue.

billethkid 06-14-2020 06:18 PM

Firings.....knee jerk politicians (like the mayor of Seattle) rolling over and caving in to the current wave of lawlessness. Making the LEO back away from the area to allow the lawlessness to continue.

As this continues more and more LEO members will become more passive when encountering unlawful incidents.
Which will in turn lead to more criminals and thugs getting away with their crimes.

Those who serve and protect are in danger of being emasculated by those who run cities and states.

What individual, black or any other, in their right mind in this day and age would fight police, resist arrest, run away and shoot at police???

Stu from NYC 06-14-2020 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1784305)
Fight with an officer, you have a good chance of being shot.

No matter what color you are, or what color the officer is.

It's not a color issue.

Agreed but watch everyone now telling us what a good guy he was.

retiredguy123 06-14-2020 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1784321)
Agreed but watch everyone now telling us what a good guy he was.

I find it strange that there is no information on the Internet about Rayshard Brooks' criminal record or the lack of one. Why?

dewilson58 06-14-2020 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1784321)
Agreed but watch everyone now telling us what a good guy he was.


They say, "The good ones always die young."


Don't know who "they are.


Don't know what it take to be a "good one".


Don't know what "young" is.


Don't know why I posted this.


:shocked:

dewilson58 06-14-2020 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1784313)

What individual, black or any other, in their right mind in this day and age would fight police, resist arrest, run away and shoot at police???


The answer is always within.

ColdNoMore 06-14-2020 07:42 PM

The suspect should not have resisted arrest for being .02 above the limit...but it shouldn't have been a death sentence.

The cop should not have shot someone in the back, while he was running away... when the cop's life was in no danger.

And NO, a taser is not considered a lethal weapon.

Why was the cop picking up his brass for 2 minutes...before he even went to the victim?

Maybe because he knew once the detectives figured out how far away the victim was, while running away...he would be in deep doo-doo?

And NO, this is NOT justification for citizen violence or property damage.

It (along with the posts we'll see here) does, however, show...exactly why black people across the nation are so angry.

Jayhawk 06-14-2020 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1784339)
The suspect should not have resisted arrest for being .02 above the limit...but it shouldn't have been a death sentence.

The cop should not have shot someone in the back, while he was running away... when the cop's life was in no danger.

And NO, a taser is not considered a lethal weapon.

Why was the cop picking up his brass for 2 minutes...before he even went to the victim?

Maybe because he knew once the detectives figured out how far away the victim was, while running away...he would be in deep doo-doo?

And NO, this is NOT justification for citizen violence or property damage.

It (along with the posts we'll see here) does, however, show...exactly why black people across the nation are so angry.

Do you remember this from just 90 days ago?

Black Cop Shoots Unarmed White Man In Viral Video | NewsOne


I didn't think so.

anothersteve 06-14-2020 08:05 PM

Why the hell can't people just comply? This crap is avoidable if people would just comply! I'm not saying who's right or wrong, it's just avoidable.
Steve

ColdNoMore 06-14-2020 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1784342)
Do you remember this from just 90 days ago?

Black Cop Shoots Unarmed White Man In Viral Video | NewsOne


I didn't think so.

I condemn ANY cop shooting someone unarmed, who is not presenting a danger to the cop.

PERIOD.

FULL STOP
.

Steve9930 06-14-2020 08:43 PM

Resisting arrest here in Ohio is a misdemeanor offense unless the officer is put in major danger or the assailant has a deadly weapon. This will be investigated and I suspect the officer will be charged with something.

Stu from NYC 06-14-2020 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1784345)
Why the hell can't people just comply? This crap is avoidable if people would just comply! I'm not saying who's right or wrong, it's just avoidable.
Steve

He apparently brought it upon himself by grabbing the officers taser and things just esclated and in retribution the guys decided lets burn down a restaurant.

Jayhawk 06-14-2020 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1784348)
I condemn ANY cop shooting someone unarmed, who is not presenting a danger to the cop.

PERIOD.

FULL STOP
.

Not what you wrote. You said, "exactly why black people across the nation are so angry."

Why wasn't it about ANY police shooting ANY person regardless of race?

You are on a bandwagon, and I know you are not alone. But people need to wake the hell up. ALL people.

camaguey48 06-15-2020 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1784288)
I watched the video of this tonight and what I saw was the cops stopped a car. They felt that the driver was under the influence so they gave him a field sobriety test. It looked to me that they were about to give him a breathalyzer. He grabbed the officers taser and started running. The officer gave chase and at one point the man turned and fired the taser at the officer. The officer returned fire and killed the man.

Was that shooting justified?

The police chief has resigned, the officer has been fired and his partner suspended.

The police are already on pins and needles. It is because politicians are kow- towing to the mob and do not have the guts to stand up to them and protect their constituents. It is better to let their cities burn. Anarchy will reign. America is in trouble and our enemies are gleefully watching. Thank a police officer revert chance you get.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-15-2020 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1784290)
missed a significant detail.................the thug started to physically fight the officers once an officer got behind him to handcuff him.


guess he was never taught not to fight an officer.

Yea, I was going by memory. The officer has in fact administered the breathalyzer and and was in the process of handcuffing him when he began to fight.

But that wouldn't justify shooting him. The issue that I saw that did was that he stole the officer's taser and fired it at him. That's when the officer returned fire.

camaguey48 06-15-2020 04:54 AM

Thank a police officer every chance you get.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-15-2020 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1784321)
Agreed but watch everyone now telling us what a good guy he was.

Actually, what struck me as odd about the whole thing was how pleasant and cooperative Mr Brooks was during the whole process up until the officer tried to cuff him.

He just turned on a dime.

It's amazing how the officer was immediately fired, his partner suspended and the police chief resigned. I think that it was the mayor that made those calls.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-15-2020 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1784348)
I condemn ANY cop shooting someone unarmed, who is not presenting a danger to the cop.

PERIOD.

FULL STOP
.

In this case, the person was armed and fired a taser at the officer.

Do you condemn the officer defending himself?

graciegirl 06-15-2020 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1784326)
I find it strange that there is no information on the Internet about Rayshard Brooks' criminal record or the lack of one. Why?

There must be a "cleaning brigade". That offends me mightily. I searched and searched before and finally found a British Newspaper that published George Floyd's criminal record. I feel like we are being manipulated and maneuvered. We are the victims of a new religion called political correctness by unseen forces. People are trying to hide public information from behind the scenes. That is wrong. Very wrong, just like it is wrong to break the law and to drive while drunk and to resist arrest and to flee police and to discharge a weapon against officers of the law while fleeing. Every child I ever knew was taught this.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-15-2020 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1784339)
The suspect should not have resisted arrest for being .02 above the limit...but it shouldn't have been a death sentence.

The cop should not have shot someone in the back, while he was running away... when the cop's life was in no danger.

And NO, a taser is not considered a lethal weapon.

Why was the cop picking up his brass for 2 minutes...before he even went to the victim?

Maybe because he knew once the detectives figured out how far away the victim was, while running away...he would be in deep doo-doo?

And NO, this is NOT justification for citizen violence or property damage.

It (along with the posts we'll see here) does, however, show...exactly why black people across the nation are so angry.

Let me correct a few things in this post. He was was running away but was not shot in the back. During the pursuit, the man turned and fired the taser at the officer. The officer returned fire.

The taser is not a lethal weapon and if this man didn't steal the officer's taser the officer would have been able to use it instead of his gun.

Officers are trained that if someone has a taser or stun gun that they are to shoot. This is because if they are tased or stunned, they are rendered helpless and the perpetrator can then take their gun and shoot them.

A taser, by the way, can be used as a stun gun once the taser cartridge has been expelled.

I have no idea why the officer was picking up brass or that he actually was. I didn't see that. If he was it would no bearing on the case. He shot three times. There is no disputing that so where the brass laid would have nothing to do with this case.

This is easily a justified shooting. Unfortunately, it comes on the heels of what is apparently an unjustified homicide of a black man that is all over the news and has created a toxic political environment.

villageuser 06-15-2020 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1784288)
I watched the video of this tonight and what I saw was the cops stopped a car. They felt that the driver was under the influence so they gave him a field sobriety test. It looked to me that they were about to give him a breathalyzer. He grabbed the officers taser and started running. The officer gave chase and at one point the man turned and fired the taser at the officer. The officer returned fire and killed the man.

Was that shooting justified?

The police chief has resigned, the officer has been fired and his partner suspended.

What you didn’t include was when the man fired the taser at the officer, it was not accurate, as you can imagine if one is drunk, scared, running, and trying to shoot with something he is not trained to use. Here is the article in more detail: Video Investigation: How Rayshard Brooks Was Fatally Shot by Atlanta Police - The New York Times

crash 06-15-2020 05:09 AM

The Taser was a contact taser and he grabbed and ran 45 minutes after first contact.

Don’t think a taser justifies shooting and killing him. All I will say if he had been white would the officer have shot him.

dewilson58 06-15-2020 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1784394)

But that wouldn't justify shooting him. The issue that I saw that did was that he stole the officer's taser and fired it at him. That's when the officer returned fire.


Actually, yes he can shoot the thug.

crash 06-15-2020 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1784399)
There must be a "cleaning brigade". That offends me mightily. I searched and searched before and finally found a British Newspaper that published George Floyd's criminal record. I feel like we are being manipulated and maneuvered. We are the victims of a new religion called political correctness by unseen forces. People are trying to hide public information from behind the scenes. That is wrong. Very wrong, just like it is wrong to break the law and to drive while drunk and to resist arrest and to flee police and to discharge a weapon against officers of the law while fleeing. Every child I ever knew was taught this.

It is not about George Floyd it is the straw that broke the camels back. This was not the first black person unjustifiably killed by the police this year or even that month.

riley2011 06-15-2020 05:20 AM

Yes, it was justified.

crash 06-15-2020 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1784363)
He apparently brought it upon himself by grabbing the officers taser and things just esclated and in retribution the guys decided lets burn down a restaurant.

In retribution for killing someone a restaurant got torched And that is what you think is bad.

Go back to Tulsa Oklahoma 1921 the worst racial massacre in this country no arrests. This type of thing has been going on this country since it has been a country and you are surprised they have had enough.

crash 06-15-2020 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1784321)
Agreed but watch everyone now telling us what a good guy he was.

Good or bad he does not deserve to be dead for being intoxicated and sleeping in his car.

crash 06-15-2020 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1784326)
I find it strange that there is no information on the Internet about Rayshard Brooks' criminal record or the lack of one. Why?

If we looked up you would there be information on your criminal record or lack of.

dewilson58 06-15-2020 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash (Post 1784417)
Good or bad he does not deserve to be dead for being intoxicated and sleeping in his car.


Can't pick his lowest crime & make judgement.

kcrazorbackfan 06-15-2020 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 1784288)
I watched the video of this tonight and what I saw was the cops stopped a car. They felt that the driver was under the influence so they gave him a field sobriety test. It looked to me that they were about to give him a breathalyzer. He grabbed the officers taser and started running. The officer gave chase and at one point the man turned and fired the taser at the officer. The officer returned fire and killed the man.

Was that shooting justified?

The police chief has resigned, the officer has been fired and his partner suspended.

The B/A was administered; he blew .108; cuffs were being put on and that’s when the perp decided to do something really stupid - resist and grab the Officer’s taser.

When he turned and fired it towards the Officer, all the rules changed and deadly force was justified. They need to learn that if they point a weapon, they will get shot.

Jeff5115 06-15-2020 05:30 AM

I was taught that if a police officer tells you to do something follow the instructions. Unfortunately if the man had just followed instructions he would be alive and would have possibly been found guilty of a minor violation. I cant imagine the stress police officers are under each and every day. I had lots of job stress but I never had to worry that I might get killed on the job.

jacksonbrown 06-15-2020 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crash (Post 1784414)
Go back to Tulsa Oklahoma 1921 the worst racial massacre in this country no arrests. This type of thing has been going on this country since it has been a country and you are surprised they have had enough.

Wow, you had to go back 99 years to find that piece of (maybe) fake news.

matandch 06-15-2020 05:33 AM

People keep saying “returned fire”. Returning fire with a gun vs taser isn’t a proportional response. None of the offenses the man committed are punishable by death.

diamond2005 06-15-2020 05:40 AM

[QUOTE=Dr Winston O Boogie jr;1784288]I watched the video of this tonight and what I saw was the cops stopped a car. They felt that the driver was under the influence so they gave him a field sobriety test. It looked to me that they were about to give him a breathalyzer. He grabbed the officers taser and started running. The officer gave chase and at one point the man turned and fired the taser at the officer. The officer returned fire and killed the man.
The guy was asleep in the drive-thru lane of the Wendy’s. He had passed out, drunk.
Knowing the area well, the owner of the Wendy’s was more than likely, black!


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