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GoodLife 06-22-2020 12:00 PM

104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend in Chicago
 
Chicago saw its highest number of gun violence victims in a single weekend this year with 104 people shot across the city from Friday evening to Monday morning, 14 of them fatally. Five of those killed were minors.

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

Chicago shootings: 104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend - Chicago Sun-Times

dewilson58 06-22-2020 12:13 PM

I saw that......................jus crazy.

Number 10 GI 06-22-2020 12:19 PM

Where are the social workers when you need them?

GoodLife 06-22-2020 12:26 PM

12 people shot in Minneapolis as city sees uptick in violent crime.

Twelve people shot in Minneapolis as city sees uptick in violent crime, police chief says

Number 10 GI 06-22-2020 01:18 PM

People need to study the old west a bit and law enforcement during that time. Judge Isaac C. Parker was appointed to the bench for the U.S. Court for the Western District of Arkansas and served there for 21 years. Prior to his appointment to that bench outlaws would rob and kill in various states and then flee to the Indian Territory in Oklahoma where local sheriffs had no jurisdiction. These were hardened and vicious criminals. U.S. Marshals had the only authority there and Judge Parker was placed in charge of the judicial system and deputizing Marshals to go into the Indian Territory to arrest and bring back to Ft. Smith, AR for trial and sentencing. He eventually cleaned up the outlaw problem but it took stern justice to accomplish it. Hangings and lengthy prison sentences were handed out.


Judge Isaac C. Parker
Fort Smith NHS
"I have ever had the single aim of justice in view... 'Do equal and exact justice,' is my motto, and I have often said to the grand jury, 'Permit no innocent man to be punished, but let no guilty man escape.'"
-Judge Isaac C. Parker, 1896

karostay 06-22-2020 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1789570)
Chicago saw its highest number of gun violence victims in a single weekend this year with 104 people shot across the city from Friday evening to Monday morning, 14 of them fatally. Five of those killed were minors.

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

Chicago shootings: 104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend - Chicago Sun-Times

Good start lets see what 4th July brings

golfing eagles 06-22-2020 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1789570)
Chicago saw its highest number of gun violence victims in a single weekend this year with 104 people shot across the city from Friday evening to Monday morning, 14 of them fatally. Five of those killed were minors.

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

Chicago shootings: 104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend - Chicago Sun-Times

What I find interesting is that the article makes no mention of the race of the victims or suspected shooters. It took the media about 1/2 second to point out George Floyd was black and shot by a white officer, same with the Atlanta shooting. Highly likely the majority of victims were African-American, and the perps as well. So much for unbiased reporting that doesn't fit their agenda.

dewilson58 06-22-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1789661)
What I find interesting is that the article makes no mention of the race of the victims or suspected shooters. It took the media about 1/2 second to point out George Floyd was black and shot by a white officer, same with the Atlanta shooting. Highly likely the majority of victims were African-American, and the perps as well. So much for unbiased reporting that doesn't fit their agenda.


290 so far in 2020.


This link shows who & where in Chicago.


Homicides in Chicago: A list of every victim | Chicago Sun-Times


Using the filter........over 400 killed in 2019

nututv 06-22-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 10 GI (Post 1789578)
Where are the social workers when you need them?

hahaha You win post of the month.

Stu from NYC 06-22-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1789570)
Chicago saw its highest number of gun violence victims in a single weekend this year with 104 people shot across the city from Friday evening to Monday morning, 14 of them fatally. Five of those killed were minors.

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

Chicago shootings: 104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend - Chicago Sun-Times

Media to busy promoting destruction and killing of a criminal by police to consider a relatively unimportant murder of two children. Sad.

TexaninVA 06-22-2020 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1789570)
Chicago saw its highest number of gun violence victims in a single weekend this year with 104 people shot across the city from Friday evening to Monday morning, 14 of them fatally. Five of those killed were minors.

Five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings in Austin on Saturday.

Chicago shootings: 104 shot, 14 fatally, over Father’s Day weekend - Chicago Sun-Times

A rational person would thus have to conclude that, obviously, black lives really don't matter in Chicago. As long as the killer is black, no one protests, riots or objects.

Why is that?

tophcfa 06-22-2020 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1789718)
A rational person would thus have to conclude that, obviously, black lives really don't matter in Chicago. As long as the killer is black, no one protests, riots or objects.

Why is that?

Seems like a rational conclusion and reasonable question to me?

GoodLife 06-22-2020 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1789680)
OP must be fascinated by shootings. Also started threads about shootings in NYC and Seattle. Kind of weird since this is Talk of the Villages (Florida)

Actually I hate shootings. There seems to be some that think Police should be defunded/disbanded and these posts point out the utter folly of that idea.

There is also a big focus on Police killing unarmed people but the numbers show this problem is miniscule compared to people killing unarmed people, children, even babies. We have a crime problem, not a Police brutality problem.

Stu from NYC 06-22-2020 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1789718)
A rational person would thus have to conclude that, obviously, black lives really don't matter in Chicago. As long as the killer is black, no one protests, riots or objects.

Why is that?

If I was black would be a lot more worried that another black would kill me for no reason than the police doing so.

Instead lets go tear down a statue tonight.

Just makes me shake my head.

Jima64 06-22-2020 06:04 PM

some groups never place the blame where it belongs and know it.

TexaninVA 06-22-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1789748)
If I was black would be a lot more worried that another black would kill me for no reason than the police doing so.

Instead lets go tear down a statue tonight.

Just makes me shake my head.

In addition to shaking one's head, it amplifies the sheer hypocrisy and stupidity of the politicians involved

billethkid 06-22-2020 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1789754)
In addition to shaking one's head, it amplifies the sheer hypocrisy and stupidity of the politicians involved

It just is so obvious that certain politicians and the media in general have a very specific agenda, for which there is no shame.
They are not accountable for the destruction going on all around them they choose to ignore.

It should be of concern to most of us Americans the manner in which the state of affairs we are made aware is confined to ONLY that which they choose to tell us.
A very effective step to brain wash the lemming like masses.

anothersteve 06-22-2020 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1789762)
It just is so obvious that certain politicians and the media in general have a very specific agenda, for which there is no shame.
They are not accountable for the destruction going on all around them they choose to ignore.

It should be of concern to most of us Americans the manner in which the state of affairs we are made aware is confined to ONLY that which they choose to tell us.
A very effective step to brain wash the lemming like masses.

It shouldn't be of concern to most of us Americans....
it should be of concern to all Americans.

I hear you man!

Steve

Northwoods 06-22-2020 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1789730)
Symbiosis.

:boom:

:rolleyes:

:thumbup:

What I don't understand is why doesn't this also infuriate some people...

"A black man was fatally shot in the neck while washing his car in Brooklyn on Saturday — the 18th person to fall victim to gun violence during a bloody weekend across the city.

"In Chicago, five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings over Father's Day weekend."

There is justifiable outrage about the killing of George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks. But where is the outrage and protests about all the murders in Chicago and NYC in one weekend? A 3-year-old boy and 13- year-old girl murdered? I just searched the NBC News website and I couldn't find anything about the Chicago murders. But there is a link on top of the NBC site to all news about George Floyd.

Kenswing 06-22-2020 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1789773)
What I don't understand is why doesn't this also infuriate some people...

"A black man was fatally shot in the neck while washing his car in Brooklyn on Saturday — the 18th person to fall victim to gun violence during a bloody weekend across the city.

"In Chicago, five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings over Father's Day weekend."

There is justifiable outrage about the killing of George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks. But where is the outrage and protests about all the murders in Chicago and NYC in one weekend? A 3-year-old boy and 13- year-old girl murdered? I just searched the NBC News website and I couldn't find anything about the Chicago murders. But there is a link on top of the NBC site to all news about George Floyd.

Well I think it's obvious. Some people only care about black lives when they can frame it in racism and push their agenda.

anothersteve 06-22-2020 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1789773)
What I don't understand is why doesn't this also infuriate some people...

"A black man was fatally shot in the neck while washing his car in Brooklyn on Saturday — the 18th person to fall victim to gun violence during a bloody weekend across the city.

"In Chicago, five children were among the 14 people killed, including a 3-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl killed in separate shootings over Father's Day weekend."

There is justifiable outrage about the killing of George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks. But where is the outrage and protests about all the murders in Chicago and NYC in one weekend? A 3-year-old boy and 13- year-old girl murdered? I just searched the NBC News website and I couldn't find anything about the Chicago murders. But there is a link on top of the NBC site to all news about George Floyd.


It's not good theater. The MSM has an agenda, and it's filled with false rampant racism. They love what they are doing to America, they hate America, they hate the Police....................period.

Steve

Bucco 06-22-2020 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1789775)
Well I think it's obvious. Some people only care about black lives when they can frame it in racism and push their agenda.

You are absolutely right.

And the other group accents the opposite,thus we go round and round and get no where at all.

I believe the issue is killing ONLY BECAUSE OF A SKIN COLOR.

Killing is abhorrent behavior....the issue “supposedly” is supposed to be killing strictly because of skin color.

But you are correct. Skip to your corner frame it your own way. It certainly changes the subject.

Kenswing 06-22-2020 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1789778)
You are absolutely right.

And the other group accents the opposite,thus we go round and round and get no where at all.

I believe the issue is killing ONLY BECAUSE OF A SKIN COLOR.

Killing is abhorrent behavior....the issue “supposedly” is supposed to be killing strictly because of skin color.

But you are correct. Skip to your corner frame it your own way. It certainly changes the subject.

Come on, you're way smarter than that. Cops kill just as many white people as they do black. But that seldom makes the news. Why? Why?

I read in one of your previous posts, and I'll paraphrase, that you felt that there were/are external influences driving the discourse in this country. And I'll just guess that you feel that maybe some foreign powers are at work here? If that's the case I certainly agree with you. If you meant something else I'd love to hear what you meant.

TexaninVA 06-22-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1789778)
You are absolutely right.


I believe the issue is killing ONLY BECAUSE OF A SKIN COLOR.

Killing is abhorrent behavior....the issue “supposedly” is supposed to be killing strictly because of skin color.

.

How can you say it's the "only" issue when in Chicago alone 104 black people get killed, in a single weekend, for walking down the street or simply being in their homes?

I'm glad to know you think killing is abhorrent.

Maybe you can research the national stats and give us the following data:

1. Number of black people killed by white cops solely because they were black

2. Number of black people killed by black people in the commission of varous crimes.

My guess is the latter is several hundred times greater than the former.

...

Northwoods 06-22-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1789778)
You are absolutely right.

And the other group accents the opposite,thus we go round and round and get no where at all.

I believe the issue is killing ONLY BECAUSE OF A SKIN COLOR.

Killing is abhorrent behavior....the issue “supposedly” is supposed to be killing strictly because of skin color.

But you are correct. Skip to your corner frame it your own way. It certainly changes the subject.

No... I"m not trying to change the subject. I agree killing is abhorrent behavior. And I agree that the killing of Floyd and others at the hands of police is wrong.

What I don't understand is why there isn't an equal focus on all the "inner city" murders that occur way too often.

Like George Floyd, why isn't the funeral for a 3-year-old African American boy who was murdered in Chicago broadcast on national TV? Why isn't Al Sharpton giving the eulogy?
What about the 13-year-old girl who was killed in Chicago? Where is the outrage? Why aren't there protests to bring more attention to the senseless killings in the "inner city.?" There were 104 shot, 14 fatally in Chicago. Why isn't the mainstream media outraged? Why aren't we ALL trying to figure out how to "fix" this problem?

There is so much hype about police brutality. But there is so much senseless "inner city" shootings and murders. What if you disbanded every police force. No more police. Do you honestly think the inner city murders would stop?

So are you really focusing on the biggest "issue" that will reduce shootings and murders in the inner city?

Bucco 06-22-2020 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1789785)
Come on, you're way smarter than that. Cops kill just as many white people as they do black. But that seldom makes the news. Why? Why?

I read in one of your previous posts, and I'll paraphrase, that you felt that there were/are external influences driving the discourse in this country. And I'll just guess that you feel that maybe some foreign powers are at work here? If that's the case I certainly agree with you. If you meant something else I'd love to hear what you meant.

Well, exciting....yes I meant what you thought and nice that we agree. Those outside influences are strong, and one of the reasons I support more stringent enforcement of existing TOTV rules about copyright protection and the clear showing of sources for the cut and paste.

On the other, my only point was the discussion about the killing of people BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR gets turned around to defend police (they do not defending, just ckeaning up) or violence in general. Killing another human being is beyond horrible, but killing another human simply because he is of some skin color is detestable. Each time, some choose not to accept what the conversation should be about and turn it to satisfy some other motive.

Then turning it around, to me, is simply ignoring the issue. I believe in confronting an issue. That cannot be done on a forum, yet I see judgements, accusations, and not very well disguised hate.

And if you agree on the outside influences, join me on here, as we seem to ignore the ludicrous conspiracy theories bandied about with one purpose....divide us further than we are. Seems every story comes with a theory manufactured, but bought into and away we go.

One which covers both subjects is the theory that George Soros pays for protests. It has no basis in any fact and is simply spread on those questionable sites, yet on TOTV, I see folks posting as an accepted fact.

Northwoods 06-22-2020 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1789797)
Well, exciting....yes I meant what you thought and nice that we agree.

On the other, my only point was the discussion about the killing of people BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR gets turned around to defend police (they do not defending, just cleaning up) or violence in general. Killing another human being is beyond horrible, but killing another human simply because he is of some skin color is detestable. Each time, some choose not to accept what the conversation should be about and turn it to satisfy some other motive.

Then turning it around, to me, is simply ignoring the issue. I believe in confronting an issue. That cannot be done on a forum, yet I see judgements, accusations, and not very well disguised hate.

And if you agree on the outside influences, join me on here, as we seem to ignore the ludicrous conspiracy theories bandied about with one purpose....divide us further than we are. Seems every story comes with a theory manufactured, but bought into and away we go.

One which covers both subjects is the theory that George Soros pays for protests. It has no basis in any fact and is simply spread on those questionable sites, yet on TOTV, I see folks posting as an accepted fact.

Bucco - I may not share the same "political" views that you do. But I respect you and I believe you have strong, rational reasons for your viewpoints. I've found your posts to be passionate, but not condescending to people who hold a different viewpoint.

I think it is almost impossible to have a civil discussion about anything on social media. Yet... we continue to try to have a "civil" discussion....

nututv 06-22-2020 09:01 PM

I've already done the research, I know the common denominator. You tell me what you find. lol
Most violent continent?
Most violent country? (hint, it's in the most violent continent)
Most violent state in the US?
Most violent city in the US?

TexaninVA 06-22-2020 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucco (Post 1789797)
Well, exciting....yes I meant what you thought and nice that we agree. Those outside influences are strong, and one of the reasons I support more stringent enforcement of existing TOTV rules about copyright protection and the clear showing of sources for the cut and paste.

On the other, my only point was the discussion about the killing of people BECAUSE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR gets turned around to defend police (they do not defending, just ckeaning up) or violence in general. Killing another human being is beyond horrible, but killing another human simply because he is of some skin color is detestable. Each time, some choose not to accept what the conversation should be about and turn it to satisfy some other motive.

Then turning it around, to me, is simply ignoring the issue. I believe in confronting an issue. That cannot be done on a forum, yet I see judgements, accusations, and not very well disguised hate.

And if you agree on the outside influences, join me on here, as we seem to ignore the ludicrous conspiracy theories bandied about with one purpose....divide us further than we are. Seems every story comes with a theory manufactured, but bought into and away we go.

One which covers both subjects is the theory that George Soros pays for protests. It has no basis in any fact and is simply spread on those questionable sites, yet on TOTV, I see folks posting as an accepted fact.

Sophistry and logic that veers off the main point .... no condemnation of black people killing other black people in large or even huge numbers. Do the research and get back to us

seoulbrooks 06-23-2020 04:57 AM

black lives matter when they can frame it in racism and push their agenda to destroy the United States. Black lives will really matter when you see concern for all lives being lost in the inner cities. BLM and Corporate News could care less about the real cause of black lives being lost. How many lives in the inner cities are being saved by destroying statues of history? The real subject of their destruction is the American way of life. People need to wise up. Stop electing political idiots that just promote or stand by and watch the destruction while playing right along with the BLM agenda.

Would be nice to have some discussions and real solutions to all the killing in our cities, not just agenda driven BS.

camaguey48 06-23-2020 05:02 AM

Criminal's lives matter. Law abiding citizens and children's not at all. Where is the community organizer?

tboecker 06-23-2020 05:06 AM

As we say in Chicago..."just another normal weekend". If only BLM cared about ALL Black lives. I guess it's more important to tear down statues and change the name of a syrup. This weekend violence will get swept under the rug.

WesMan 06-23-2020 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1789718)
A rational person would thus have to conclude that, obviously, black lives really don't matter in Chicago. As long as the killer is black, no one protests, riots or objects.

Why is that?

Correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WesMan 06-23-2020 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1789710)
Media to busy promoting destruction and killing of a criminal by police to consider a relatively unimportant murder of two children. Sad.

That's why it's fake news!!!!

WesMan 06-23-2020 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1789775)
Well I think it's obvious. Some people only care about black lives when they can frame it in racism and push their agenda.

So true!!!!!!!!!!!

donassaid 06-23-2020 05:13 AM

Black on black crime doesn't matter or don't you know? Neither does black on white. Just white on black. That's where we are in our country today.

WesMan 06-23-2020 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1789879)
Black on black crime doesn't matter or don't you know? Neither does black on white. Just white on black. That's where we are in our country today.

So true!!!!

joeharing 06-23-2020 05:38 AM

"Midnight Basketball" will temper all hostilites..........remember that one.

Andyb 06-23-2020 06:21 AM

Things have to get real bad, before people wake up and do something. Complete lack of family values and propaganda from our media and school systems to blame for theses problems.

ColdNoMore 06-23-2020 06:24 AM

It's encouraging to read from so many, who are against the senseless tragedies of so much violence.

"Encouraging" that is, as long as those same folks recognize...the inherit roots of this violence.

That being areas of poverty where drugs and gangs seem to be the only option for so many young black people, because they've lost hope that they'll ever be...treated and given the same opportunities as whites.

So if your are truly aghast at this violence, hopefully you are as equally outraged and speaking up, about the disparities in income, opportunities and treatment...by our society as a whole.

Why do I have a strong hunch though...that isn't gong to happen? :oops:


If you were in this crowd, but fail to recognize the truth that Jane Elliott is saying (and proved - Brown Eyes-Blue Eyes (Click Here) ) and wouldn't have stood up either...then it's time to look inward.
:ohdear:



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