Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1802979)

You see many media reports that Florida's hospitals are being overrun with a surge of new covid 19 cases.

The problem with those stories is that actual data shows it's not true. As of yesterday July 13 here are the numbers.

Today's occupancy:
All Beds: 77.1%
ICU Beds: 79.5%

One week ago (July 6th):
All Beds: 75.8%
ICU Beds: 77.8%

75% to 85% occupancy is considered to be normal and the "sweet spot" for hospitals, they are built to make a profit but they like to have a little excess capacity.

Covid 19 patients occupy 13.4% of those beds, the rest are occupied by normal elective surgeries, heart attacks etc.

You can find accurate data at this site, which is updated daily. You can check for regular and ICU beds by county and hospital every day. This site is the Agency for Health Care Administration, a State agency.

Workbook':' Public

At the top of the page you can click on the stats you want to see, beds by county, ICU beds by county, ICU beds by hospital etc Currently there are 19% of all Florida ICU beds available.

What about the hotspots? Are they being "overrun"

Broward: 12% available ICU beds

Miami Dade: 15% available ICU beds

Orange: 27% available ICU beds

Palm Beach: 26% available ICU beds

What about Sumter? 22% available ICU beds

There are currently two Florida counties with zero available ICU beds, Nassau and Okeechobee, these counties only have a total of 8 ICU beds each.

You can bookmark the link above and check for yourself anytime you want.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1802979)

You see many media reports that Florida's hospitals are being overrun with a surge of new covid 19 cases.

The problem with those stories is that actual data shows it's not true. As of yesterday July 13 here are the numbers.

Today's occupancy:
All Beds: 77.1%
ICU Beds: 79.5%

One week ago (July 6th):
All Beds: 75.8%
ICU Beds: 77.8%

75% to 85% occupancy is considered to be normal and the "sweet spot" for hospitals, they are built to make a profit but they like to have a little excess capacity.

Covid 19 patients occupy 13.4% of those beds, the rest are occupied by normal elective surgeries, heart attacks etc.

You can find accurate data at this site, which is updated daily. You can check for regular and ICU beds by county and hospital every day. This site is the Agency for Health Care Administration, a State agency.

Workbook':' Public

At the top of the page you can click on the stats you want to see, beds by county, ICU beds by county, ICU beds by hospital etc Currently there are 19% of all Florida ICU beds available.

What about the hotspots? Are they being "overrun"

Broward: 12% available ICU beds

Miami Dade: 15% available ICU beds

Orange: 27% available ICU beds

Palm Beach: 26% available ICU beds

What about Sumter? 22% available ICU beds

There are currently two Florida counties with zero available ICU beds, Nassau and Okeechobee, these counties only have a total of 8 ICU beds each.

You can bookmark the link above and check for yourself anytime you want.

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1803198)

so for all of Sumter county there are 9 ICU beds available.....our population is about 130,000....

apparently it''s of concern enough to have Villages Health put out the advisory

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803210)

The advisory did not state that the hospitals are overrun with covid patients. Mostly it was an advisory to stay safe during this new surge.

Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1803199)

And of course that site is the absolute authority on everything COVID in Florida. Believe what statistics you wish, but people are being hospitalized and are dying. With hospital administrators speaking out on their resources and the reduction I (and I may be wrong) don't believe we are getting better, that the rates have stabilized or that the danger is decreasing and will disappear in a few months......but that's just me.

Originally Posted by Toolong (Post 1803208)

I take no comfort in that. Cases have exploded in the last two weeks and the disease that afflicts many of those folks hasn't progressed to the point they need an ICU bed. 132 deaths were reported today. That is a lagging number in that many of those people were ill for weeks before they passed and their deaths may not have been reported until even later. In a month or so, we'll know how many of the 10K to 15K a day being infected now actually die or suffer debilitating effects .

The President said this was the equivalent of war and covid is the enemy. Our goal as a nation should be to defeat the enemy, not to downplay it.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1802979)

You see many media reports that Florida's hospitals are being overrun with a surge of new covid 19 cases.

The problem with those stories is that actual data shows it's not true. As of yesterday July 13 here are the numbers.

Today's occupancy:
All Beds: 77.1%
ICU Beds: 79.5%

One week ago (July 6th):
All Beds: 75.8%
ICU Beds: 77.8%

75% to 85% occupancy is considered to be normal and the "sweet spot" for hospitals, they are built to make a profit but they like to have a little excess capacity.

Covid 19 patients occupy 13.4% of those beds, the rest are occupied by normal elective surgeries, heart attacks etc.

You can find accurate data at this site, which is updated daily. You can check for regular and ICU beds by county and hospital every day. This site is the Agency for Health Care Administration, a State agency.

Workbook':' Public

At the top of the page you can click on the stats you want to see, beds by county, ICU beds by county, ICU beds by hospital etc Currently there are 19% of all Florida ICU beds available.

What about the hotspots? Are they being "overrun"

Broward: 12% available ICU beds

Miami Dade: 15% available ICU beds

Orange: 27% available ICU beds

Palm Beach: 26% available ICU beds

What about Sumter? 22% available ICU beds

There are currently two Florida counties with zero available ICU beds, Nassau and Okeechobee, these counties only have a total of 8 ICU beds each.

You can bookmark the link above and check for yourself anytime you want.

Originally Posted by crash (Post 1803336)

It is the president doing the down playing it and people are scrambling looking for reasons to agree with him. It is real and if everyone took it seriously we could win the war.

Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1803348)

Please don’t let these number confuse you. Hospitals have multiple ICU’s Neo Natal, pediatric, Cardiology, Neurology, obstetrics. These are isolated in different areas of hospital.
Covid Patients are isolated mostly in negative pressure rooms with teams of nurses, respiratory techs and Drs providing for their care in GENERAL ICU. The bed count is not what you may think.

Originally Posted by Foxmd (Post 1803393)

Can you share the email address for the chief medical officer? I did not receive the email he sent.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803210)

The advisory did not state that the hospitals are overrun with covid patients. Mostly it was an advisory to stay safe during this new surge.

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1803412)

sorry, but the very cynical me views this as The Villages being very scared that it could turn into a disaster. which is why, with today's article on the front page, they again focused on the virus. I view this as alarming as they have usually relegated virus information to a blurb somewhere buried deep inside the newspaper.

if others want to quibble about percentage of beds, etc. fine...but 9 available ICU beds in Sumter County is troubling to me.

Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1803412)

sorry, but the very cynical me views this as The Villages being very scared that it could turn into a disaster. which is why, with today's article on the front page, they again focused on the virus. I view this as alarming as they have usually relegated virus information to a blurb somewhere buried deep inside the newspaper.

if others want to quibble about percentage of beds, etc. fine...but 9 available ICU beds in Sumter County is troubling to me.

Originally Posted by davephan (Post 1803390)

You have to be careful if you listen or watch the fake mainstream news. They tell you stories like Texas hospitals are nearly full. They leave out the fact that only 15% are COVID-19 patients. The fake mainstream news hopes that people will assume that all of the patients are COVID-19 patients.

Recently, an NBC contributor faked that they had COVID-19. He was tested negative 6 times for COVID-19 and didn’t have the antibodies either. No one should be watching or listening to the mainstream media, which is nothing but propaganda.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1802979)

You see many media reports that Florida's hospitals are being overrun with a surge of new covid 19 cases.

The problem with those stories is that actual data shows it's not true. As of yesterday July 13 here are the numbers.

Today's occupancy:
All Beds: 77.1%
ICU Beds: 79.5%

One week ago (July 6th):
All Beds: 75.8%
ICU Beds: 77.8%

75% to 85% occupancy is considered to be normal and the "sweet spot" for hospitals, they are built to make a profit but they like to have a little excess capacity.

Covid 19 patients occupy 13.4% of those beds, the rest are occupied by normal elective surgeries, heart attacks etc.

You can find accurate data at this site, which is updated daily. You can check for regular and ICU beds by county and hospital every day. This site is the Agency for Health Care Administration, a State agency.

Workbook':' Public

At the top of the page you can click on the stats you want to see, beds by county, ICU beds by county, ICU beds by hospital etc Currently there are 19% of all Florida ICU beds available.

What about the hotspots? Are they being "overrun"

Broward: 12% available ICU beds

Miami Dade: 15% available ICU beds

Orange: 27% available ICU beds

Palm Beach: 26% available ICU beds

What about Sumter? 22% available ICU beds

There are currently two Florida counties with zero available ICU beds, Nassau and Okeechobee, these counties only have a total of 8 ICU beds each.

You can bookmark the link above and check for yourself anytime you want.

Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1803447)

This means nothing without context, nor without comparison to pre-covid-19, nor without commentary from the actual experts who know what these numbers mean given we are in a pandemic. You are working awfully hard to dowmplay the seriousness of the situation, not sure what your agenda is but I wish you would find a hobby. This mis-information and out-of-context data just confuses things and encourages people to not take appropriate precautions. Do you really want to be responsible for that?

Originally Posted by allsport (Post 1803450)

The fallacy in your argument is that you are using information from the state of FL, do not believe that to be true. Remember the gov fired the person who was keeping the stats because she would not lie. You are very foolish to believe that site. Look and listen to the medical people in those affected areas, they are being overrun and the gov is a fool.

Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1803447)

This means nothing without context, nor without comparison to pre-covid-19, nor without commentary from the actual experts who know what these numbers mean given we are in a pandemic. You are working awfully hard to dowmplay the seriousness of the situation, not sure what your agenda is but I wish you would find a hobby. This mis-information and out-of-context data just confuses things and encourages people to not take appropriate precautions. Do you really want to be responsible for that?

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803460)

Normal Hospital occupancy rates are 75-85% without a pandemic. Google it

No mis-information has been posted, just numbers on Hospital occupancies and capacities that are updated daily by a Florida State agency.

Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1803477)

Yes, google and Fox make you an expert. Again no context from those actually in the thick of it. Why is it every doctor and nurse interviewed are so concerned, stressed out, etc.? There is so much more going on here and your attempts to simplify and minimize are not helping. Do you really want to be responsible for convincing others to treat this lightly? I wish TOTV would step in and put an end to these kinds of mis-information posts.

Originally Posted by JoeinFL (Post 1803476)

I agree with you. It seems so many want to downplay this Pandemic.
How about we give the health care workers a break? Everyone do your part. Wear a mask, social distance and stop posting numbers that could easily be manipulated.
People are getting sick at record numbers and they’re ending up dead.
Wake up.

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1802979)

You see many media reports that Florida's hospitals are being overrun with a surge of new covid 19 cases.

The problem with those stories is that actual data shows it's not true. As of yesterday July 13 here are the numbers.

Today's occupancy:
All Beds: 77.1%
ICU Beds: 79.5%
Numbers and statistics can be viewed by anyone.
One week ago (July 6th):
All Beds: 75.8%
ICU Beds: 77.8%

75% to 85% occupancy is considered to be normal and the "sweet spot" for hospitals, they are built to make a profit but they like to have a little excess capacity.

Covid 19 patients occupy 13.4% of those beds, the rest are occupied by normal elective surgeries, heart attacks etc.

You can find accurate data at this site, which is updated daily. You can check for regular and ICU beds by county and hospital every day. This site is the Agency for Health Care Administration, a State agency.

Workbook':' Public

At the top of the page you can click on the stats you want to see, beds by county, ICU beds by county, ICU beds by hospital etc Currently there are 19% of all Florida ICU beds available.

What about the hotspots? Are they being "overrun"

Broward: 12% available ICU beds

Miami Dade: 15% available ICU beds

Orange: 27% available ICU beds

Palm Beach: 26% available ICU beds

What about Sumter? 22% available ICU beds

There are currently two Florida counties with zero available ICU beds, Nassau and Okeechobee, these counties only have a total of 8 ICU beds each.

You can bookmark the link above and check for yourself anytime you want.

Originally Posted by crosby114 (Post 1803471)

Always knew the virus hype was a hoax!

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1803197)

But the media wants us to think the world is coming to an end how can you add facts to the narrative?

Originally Posted by GoodLife (Post 1803499)

I'm already an expert, I told you to google it so you could be better informed about normal hospital occupancy rates without a pandemic.

If media wants a story about hospitals being overrun they call up the very busiest ones and get the quotes they want for the story. They could easily access the same data I linked in this thread but that is not the story they want to tell.

Originally Posted by Fisherman (Post 1803507)

Numbers and statistics can be viewed anyway you want them, whether true or not. But, you are missing the point by being reactive instead of proactive. That has been the problem since day one with our a President and our governor. Is it comforting to know that an ICU bed is available? I guess, but more important what is the game plan to stop the spread so we don’t need the ICU bed?? Florida has significant issues and something has to be done. The Villages is not a protective bubble..... I know three people who have had it or have it. People are coming here to get away from it in South Florida. Just met a couple on the golf course that got a cheap summer rental to escape it. Our numbers do not even support being in Phase 2. It only takes a few to start a major spread as evidenced in house parties, bars etc.
Considering our demographics and that many people over 65 have or have had medical issues, I think we should each manage our risk and the risk to others.

Originally Posted by theruizs (Post 1803518)

If you don’t believe the media’s data and story, why would we believe yours. I can google your data, I can google their data, why should I believe yours? Again, I think I will stick with what those who are actually involved in dealing with it have to save and show. I’m just trying to explain to you that you cannot do what you’re doing here without responsibility. And as close as we all are to having to account for our mistakes I think it’s good to avoid new ones as much as possible, FWIW.