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Jeff5115 07-16-2020 03:06 AM

Refuse to wear a mask
 
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?

Mrprez 07-16-2020 03:52 AM

I don't think there is one universal reason. Different strokes for different folks. Might have something to do with the mixed messages since this whole thing started. Don't wear a mask to masks will save your life. Which is it?

Two Bills 07-16-2020 05:15 AM

I hate masks.
Given the chance I will not wear one.
But how hard is it to slip one on when entering an area when in close proximity to others, and tale it off when not.
Will it stop me catching the virus. No.
Will it reduce the % chances of me passing it on, or catching it? Yes.
It's a no brainer in my book!!

Clarinet 07-16-2020 05:26 AM

Not wearing masks
 
Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

Altavia 07-16-2020 06:45 AM

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davem4616 07-16-2020 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrprez (Post 1803826)
I don't think there is one universal reason. Different strokes for different folks. Might have something to do with the mixed messages since this whole thing started. Don't wear a mask to masks will save your life. Which is it?


I don't believe that it's a result of mixed messages at all

these are just people that quite frankly just don't give a damn
and nobody's going to tell them what to do

but what do I know...I'm just happy that I'll be able to write in my memoirs about the many times that I walked into a bank with a mask on, told the teller that I wanted money and I got away with it !!!!!

:a040::a040::a040:

Stu from NYC 07-16-2020 07:25 AM

I find it very uncomfortable to wear a mask for more than say a half hour but it is the right thing to do so we will always wear one when around others.

coffeebean 07-16-2020 07:44 AM

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coffeebean 07-16-2020 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarinet (Post 1803846)
Whenever I am in a building or even outdoors in a busy place and see someone who does not wear a mask I believe they are saying "I really don't care about the rest of you". We wear masks to protect others, not ourselves. Let's have a little consideration. The latest discussion on yesterday's news said we could curb this virus in 8 weeks if everyone wore a mask. Why is that not enough to encourage their universal use?

I also heard that information on the news yesterday. Why isn't this information enough for our leaders to mandate mask wearing when INDOORS and distancing from others is not guaranteed? That should be a no brainer, especially when it comes to our public health.

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billethkid 07-16-2020 08:18 AM

If it helps to stop or slow down the spread there is no reason to debate whether to wear one or not.
Why? Because no matter what there will always be the minority of any group that will not comply for what ever the reason.

I would ask each of those who choose not to wear a mask and HELP.

Visualize someone in your family gets infected. Then they need to be hospitalized. THEN remember the scene when the loved one is wheeled into the hospital......NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN..... until or unless they survive and released from the hospital.
For those who do not.....remember the last time you got to see them....being wheeled into the hospital.

Maybe that would inspire some of the no mask hold outs to give it some consideration.

It is just too easy to do what it is that could help EVERYBODY!

karostay 07-16-2020 08:18 AM

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OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1804010)
If it helps to stop or slow down the spread there is no reason to debate whether to wear one or not.
Why? Because no matter what there will always be the minority of any group that will not comply for what ever the reason.

I would ask each of those who choose not to wear a mask and HELP.

Visualize someone in your family gets infected. Then they need to be hospitalized. THEN remember the scene when the loved one is wheeled into the hospital......NEVER TO BE SEEN AGAIN..... until or unless they survive and released from the hospital.
For those who do not.....remember the last time you got to see them....being wheeled into the hospital.

Maybe that would inspire some of the no mask hold outs to give it some consideration.

It is just too easy to do what it is that could help EVERYBODY!

Some seniors never grew, emotionally, beyond the early teens. They're sure that they're invincible and nothing can or will ever happen to them or their loved ones. They live outside of reality. Until it bites them in the behind. And then, they'll wonder "WHY?" WHY me? Why my mom? Why my son? WHY such nice neighbors?

Because they reject reality and see only the scope of their own ignorance.

To those who are offended by this: look in a mirror. You're probably one of the people I'm talking about.

Buckeye Boy 07-16-2020 08:25 AM

Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

New Englander 07-16-2020 08:30 AM

I hate wearing a mask. BUT, I always wear one when going into any type of building like food stores etc. I do it because it's the right thing to do!

Buckeye Boy 07-16-2020 08:31 AM

I just had a great idea. I am going to order thousands of shirts, pins and bands as the say Relax; I have had it!!

billethkid 07-16-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Boy (Post 1804019)
Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

Once there is a "reason" (real or otherwise) for exception there is no end to the confusing fluff (BS) that will be invented plus makes it impossible to enforce.

So yes.....they should wear a mask because it is the mandate for the general good.....no exceptions to confuse enforcement.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2020 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Boy (Post 1804019)
Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

Yes, they should. Why? Because you don't know WHO in that store is refusing a mask because they're immune and can't possibly be carriers.

The store management doesn't check medical records of the customers on their way in. We don't know, what we don't know.

If Joe Immune refuses to wear a mask, and Susie Asymptomatic sees him not wearing a mask, and sees that the store manager isn't enforcing it for Joe Immune, then there's no reason for Susie to feel that she should have to wear a mask. SHE Doesn't ask Joe why he isn't wearing one either. They're strangers.

There are thousands of people who REFUSE to wear a mask. Set the example. Be an adult.

graciegirl 07-16-2020 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1804018)
Some seniors never grew, emotionally, beyond the early teens. They're sure that they're invincible and nothing can or will ever happen to them or their loved ones. They live outside of reality. Until it bites them in the behind. And then, they'll wonder "WHY?" WHY me? Why my mom? Why my son? WHY such nice neighbors?

Because they reject reality and see only the scope of their own ignorance.

To those who are offended by this: look in a mirror. You're probably one of the people I'm talking about.

Me being a senior to many posters rankle at words making olders look ignorant. Especially my peers here in The Villages.

It appears that MOST of the seniors living in and around The Villages are taking this pandemic very seriously. Look at the low numbers of Sumter County and the overwhelming responses of almost everyone I communicate with who has a real name on Facebook. You can tell by how they manage the rest of their lives that they are mostly prudent people. We have the best credit ratings in The Villages, the best in The Country. We think ahead, save our money and take care of our own.

And we give nasty microbes a wide berth and have attractive masks too.

Martian 07-16-2020 08:42 AM

I like to think that in days gone by, people would have looked to the government to provide solid consistent guidance in what we should do in the pandemic.

At this point, I think that the advice would have been something like, "This is a new virus and the science is not clear about what to do and how to minimize the risk. Therefore, in the meantime, while we research and develop methods to control or stop the spread of the virus, here are the things we currently think should be done".

Instead, in today's political environment we are bombarded with misinformation - from BOTH sides - leaving everyone confused as to just what should and should not be done. One day a scientist is hailed as the voice of reason and sound guidance, then suddenly he is a liar and everything he said for the past 7 months is a lie. Seriously?

So, things like wearing a mask, become a political dog whistle, instead of an inexpensive thing that can be done easily by everyone to at least help - not cure, not solve, not make the virus go away. Just help. You know, Americans helping Americans. If we can do enough things to HELP maybe more of us will get through this alive.

But, not today, not with the hate and division. Just this week a person not wearing a mask in a Walmart was confronted and in response pulled a gun on the person telling them to put on a mask. Seriously, threaten to kill someone over wearing a mask?

I suggest everyone take a deep breath and maybe, just maybe stop calling the other side terrorists and traitors.

Maybe if every time you feel the urge to call someone a derogatory name, you substitute American - and see if that might just help tone down the vitriolic rhetoric? And let's give this "America Love it or Leave It" dog whistle a rest. This is America, we are Americans. One of the things that have ALWAYS made America great was that we could disagree with each other, but still be Americans first and Republican or Democrat, or Conservative or Liberal second.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2020 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Martian (Post 1804041)
I like to think that in days gone by, people would have looked to the government to provide solid consistent guidance in what we should do in the pandemic.

At this point, I think that the advice would have been something like, "This is a new virus and the science is not clear about what to do and how to minimize the risk. Therefore, in the meantime, while we research and develop methods to control or stop the spread of the virus, here are the things we currently think should be done".

Instead, in today's political environment we are bombarded with misinformation - from BOTH sides - leaving everyone confused as to just what should and should not be done. One day a scientist is hailed as the voice of reason and sound guidance, then suddenly he is a liar and everything he said for the past 7 months is a lie. Seriously?

So, things like wearing a mask, become a political dog whistle, instead of an inexpensive thing that can be done easily by everyone to at least help - not cure, not solve, not make the virus go away. Just help. You know, Americans helping Americans. If we can do enough things to HELP maybe more of us will get through this alive.

But, not today, not with the hate and division. Just this week a person not wearing a mask in a Walmart was confronted and in response pulled a gun on the person telling them to put on a mask. Seriously, threaten to kill someone over wearing a mask?

I suggest everyone take a deep breath and maybe, just maybe stop calling the other side terrorists and traitors.

Maybe if every time you feel the urge to call someone a derogatory name, you substitute American - and see if that might just help tone down the vitriolic rhetoric? And let's give this "America Love it or Leave It" dog whistle a rest. This is America, we are Americans. One of the things that have ALWAYS made America great was that we could disagree with each other, but still be Americans first and Republican or Democrat, or Conservative or Liberal second.

Hey I'm all for your idea and generally embrace the concept. But good luck implementing it. I for one won't hold my breath. As the old saw goes: trust in the lord, but tie up your camel.

I trust in this country to get through all this - but I'm not putting my money on individual people to ALL do their part.

Dana1963 07-16-2020 09:00 AM

Masks
 
Can’t fix the unfixable. I just wonder what people do not understand about the virus it’s not the common flu or cold. Secondly people lined up last week for FREE testing did they possibly volunteer to self quarantining while waiting for results or just go out and possibly spread the virus. Trying not to be political but since states reopened with minimal federal guidance or following CDC guidelines, I am now calling it Covid-45 not 19
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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
Whenever I enter a commercial building I put on a mask. There are many people who still refuse to wear a mask in this situation. I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask? I am not criticizing anyone for not wearing a mask just wondering why they prefer not to?


xcaligirl 07-16-2020 11:17 AM

I'm not a fan of the mask however I wear one in public out of respect! It's not because I think they are not effective, some reports state they are, some say not. They make me hot and it feels like I'm suffocating BUT I wear it in public places! Helps getting the grocery shopping finished faster! 😂

JoeinFL 07-16-2020 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Boy (Post 1804019)
Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

This virus is still very new. The doctors and scientists are learning about new information on a daily basis. So, the guidance they put out changes also. As far as your “doctors in the know”. Let’s see a link.
Your comment about people that had the virus be expected to wear a mask to make others feel better is ludicrous.
Wear a damn mask.

queasy27 07-16-2020 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff5115 (Post 1803824)
I am curious why someone would refuse to wear a mask?

Among other reasons, there's the "my body, my choice" contingent, the "you're not the boss of me" folks, the people who claim (wrongly) that "nobody can mandate my health choices, the "it's all overblown nonsense by the mainstream media" and "person X doesn't wear them so I don't need to." There's also a conspiracy-oriented minority who believe that masks are killing us!

I'm also still wearing gloves, which seems to have fallen by the wayside. I went to the ophthalmologist today and felt comfortable holding the paperwork clipboard and when the doctor handed me that plastic thing to cover one eye. I put gloves on whenever I enter an enclosed space and throw them away when I exit.

coffeebean 07-16-2020 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckeye Boy (Post 1804019)
Don’t be so quick to judge those not wearing masks. I attended a virus seminar conducted by 6 in the know doctors. Among the dozens of questions one was “can a persons get the virus twice?” Without exception all the doctors thought it was highly, highly
unlikely that it can be contracted twice.
And I know you will say that you know or heard of someone getting it twice. The
doctors’ reply to that was it is generally considered that the second positive test was a ‘reactivation’ of the previous illness and NOT a ‘resurgence’. In all cases the virus was rediscovered less than 30 days after it was believed to have left the system....ie: a false negative.
So what is my point about all this.
If a person who has had the virus and beat it (and there are thousands of such people) be expected to wear a mask even though they cannot transmit nor contract it again. Should they wear it just to make you feel better?

There should be a T-Shirt that says, "I BEAT Covid-19. I can NOT infect you"

coffeebean 07-16-2020 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by queasy27 (Post 1804347)
Among other reasons, there's the "my body, my choice" contingent, the "you're not the boss of me" folks, the people who claim (wrongly) that "nobody can mandate my health choices, the "it's all overblown nonsense by the mainstream media" and "person X doesn't wear them so I don't need to." There's also a conspiracy-oriented minority who believe that masks are killing us!

I'm also still wearing gloves, which seems to have fallen by the wayside. I went to the ophthalmologist today and felt comfortable holding the paperwork clipboard and when the doctor handed me that plastic thing to cover one eye. I put gloves on whenever I enter an enclosed space and throw them away when I exit.

You don't need to wear gloves and be fearful of all surfaces in your world. Wash your hands when you are able to and do not touch your face when you are out in public. It is really that simple.

NotGolfer 07-16-2020 05:35 PM

I've heard many reasons...one is they have asthma and it's harder to breathe with one on. Another is they have anxiety issues like PTSD that sets them off. I've seen some other reasons as well. As for masks---there is still speculation between experts that they even work. I think until it's conclusive "some" prefer not to. My question is..."they" tell us to wear masks AND social distance. IF the mask works then why social distance? If the mask works why can't family members be with dying family members or visit loved ones in care centers?

JoMar 07-16-2020 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1804385)
I've heard many reasons...one is they have asthma and it's harder to breathe with one on. Another is they have anxiety issues like PTSD that sets them off. I've seen some other reasons as well. As for masks---there is still speculation between experts that they even work. I think until it's conclusive "some" prefer not to. My question is..."they" tell us to wear masks AND social distance. IF the mask works then why social distance? If the mask works why can't family members be with dying family members or visit loved ones in care centers?

Not an either/or. The more steps you take, mask, distance, washing, the more you will do will help stop this thing. In a care center, doesn't take much to infect as there are mostly vulnerable folks in them. If I would be asymptomatic I could infect a bunch and not know it, so why take the chance? My wife's 98 year old mother is an an assisted living facility and she can't visit. It hurts but both her and her sister understand the risks to others and know even complying with the masks, distancing and washing there is a chance so they support the restrictions. More important is their mother also understands and prefers they stay away for now.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2020 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 1804385)
I've heard many reasons...one is they have asthma and it's harder to breathe with one on. Another is they have anxiety issues like PTSD that sets them off. I've seen some other reasons as well. As for masks---there is still speculation between experts that they even work. I think until it's conclusive "some" prefer not to. My question is..."they" tell us to wear masks AND social distance. IF the mask works then why social distance? If the mask works why can't family members be with dying family members or visit loved ones in care centers?

Okay everyone in the balcony section, say it with me:

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OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2020 08:16 PM

It'll be interesting to see how many people will lie about "medical reasons" to all the stores that have recently implemented a REQUIREMENT that all customers wear masks in their stores. Medical reasons and "very young children" are the only exceptions to the rule, and as far as I know, there doesn't exist any way for a store to tell if a person is telling the truth or not when they say "I don't have to wear a mask, my doctor says so."

coffeebean 07-16-2020 08:32 PM

Anyone who claims they have a medical reason for not wearing a mask, can just stay home. OR.........To gain entry, a person should have to produce a letter from a physician on the physician's letter head that they have a medical condition and are not able to wear a mask.

Northwoods 07-16-2020 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1804018)
Some seniors never grew, emotionally, beyond the early teens. They're sure that they're invincible and nothing can or will ever happen to them or their loved ones. They live outside of reality. Until it bites them in the behind. And then, they'll wonder "WHY?" WHY me? Why my mom? Why my son? WHY such nice neighbors?

Because they reject reality and see only the scope of their own ignorance.

To those who are offended by this: look in a mirror. You're probably one of the people I'm talking about.

FIrst of all, let me say that I wear a mask every time I go to the grocery store or whenever I go into any store (although I rarely go into any store other than a grocery store).

Whenever I'm out, I see that most seniors comply with the mask rule. I think many seniors are cautious because they know they are in a higher risk group.

My experience has been that younger people are the ones that don't wear a mask when they go into a grocery store or other buildings.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2020 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1804451)
Anyone who claims they have a medical reason for not wearing a mask, can just stay home. OR.........To gain entry, a person should have to produce a letter from a physician on the physician's letter head that they have a medical condition and are not able to wear a mask.

You know this is the age of the internet - and word processing is pretty easy to do. And people have Photoshop or similar programs. And that not all people who shop at these stores are unskilled seniors who don't know how easy it is to make up a fake letterhead of a non-existent doctor and scrawl some ink on the bottom as a pretend signature. They could even make a fake "medical exception card" and laminate it with clear packing tape, so they can re-use it without having to reprint it.

You can make a fake letter in 5-10 minutes, depending on how fast you type.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2020 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Northwoods (Post 1804456)
FIrst of all, let me say that I wear a mask every time I go to the grocery store or whenever I go into any store (although I rarely go into any store other than a grocery store).

Whenever I'm out, I see that most seniors comply with the mask rule. I think many seniors are cautious because they know they are in a higher risk group.

My experience has been that younger people are the ones that don't wear a mask when they go into a grocery store or other buildings.

My experience, as someone who actually works in one of those grocery stores, is that it's a mixed bag. There are seniors who refuse to wear them, and non-senior grownup adults who refuse to wear them. There are some who don't actually refuse, they just don't give it a second thought. And there are some who intended to wear them but forgot to bring them with them, and those folks usually apologize for it, or go back to their cars and retrieve them out of the glove compartment (or the rear view mirror, where it was hanging).

The ones who make sure we all know they're refusing to wear them - are mostly seniors. The ones who seem to be oblivious are mostly the grown up adults. Strangely enough, the young adults - the teenagers and young 20-somethings - tend to be more vigilant than any other demographic. They are almost always covering their mouths and noses with a mask in the stores.

DeanFL 07-16-2020 09:05 PM

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Tblue 07-16-2020 09:09 PM

I may be sorry I put my 2 cents in here. I wore a mask for 38 years, it does not make me a “mask expert” but I do know just a little about them. To be the most effective you need a proper fit, around the nose and sides, sometimes tape is needed for a proper seal around the nose. It seems common knowledge masks do not protect the wearer because the virus is so much smaller than the fiber in a medical grade mask, but maybe not the N95 mask. Many say wear the mask to protect others. It is also common knowledge that to spread the virus you generally need have to have symptoms, coughing, congestion, fever and such. In todays world if you have symptoms you just need to stay home. However if you do have symptoms and cough the mask will catch the moisture and maybe stop some of the virus attached to the moisture, a good thing. But how much of the virus is just coughed out thru the mask fibers or an improper fit that is not attached to moisture? But yes it should stop some of the spread. However when I see people wearing masks in the store they are fiddling with them, so now the virus is on your hands. Next issue is when you get back in your car and take the mask off and place it in the console you have contaminated your hands again and the inside of your car. What if you just drove with the mask on and went home, as soon as you walk in the house off comes the mask and you generally put it on the counter. Again you contaminated your hands and your counter top. So yes, masks will stop some of the spread if you have symptoms and are around people but any good from the mask is un-done or even reversed in my opinion by not properly sealing the mask, fiddling with the mask, removing the mask and likely contaminating your hands and the inside of your car or home counter top. Many will reuse the contaminated mask. Just my thoughts, if you have symptoms stay home, wash you hands and keep them away from your face as we were advise early on. I do not wear a mask, unless the store requires one, I slip on a new mask as I enter making sure I have as good as seal as possible, it’s not that difficult. I try not to fiddle with it and remove it in such a way as not to contaminate my hands best I can, and throw the mask away. I have a small spray alcohol bottle in the car and spray my hand. If I had symptoms and had to use a mask I would do the same thing but dispose of the mask in a sealed plastic sandwich bag.

EdFNJ 07-16-2020 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1804460)
My experience, as someone who actually works in one of those grocery stores, is that it's a mixed bag. There are seniors who refuse to wear them, and non-senior grownup adults who refuse to wear them. There are some who don't actually refuse, they just don't give it a second thought. And there are some who intended to wear them but forgot to bring them with them, and those folks usually apologize for it, or go back to their cars and retrieve them out of the glove compartment (or the rear view mirror, where it was hanging).

The ones who make sure we all know they're refusing to wear them - are mostly seniors. The ones who seem to be oblivious are mostly the grown up adults. Strangely enough, the young adults - the teenagers and young 20-somethings - tend to be more vigilant than any other demographic. They are almost always covering their mouths and noses with a mask in the stores.


I agree with you except for the part in red. It is mainly those "young adults" people who have caused this horrible resurgence at the bars, "covid parties" and beaches. FL was doing relatively OK until someone opened everything up starting around Memorial Day and let the kiddies run amok.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2020 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1804468)
I agree with you except for the part in red. It is mainly those "young adults" people who have caused this horrible resurgence at the bars, "covid parties" and beaches. FL was doing relatively OK until someone opened everything up starting around Memorial Day and let the kiddies run amok.

Except bars, covid parties, and beaches aren't "people in grocery stores."

I was responding to the post that said they saw mostly younger people refusing to wear masks in grocery stores. I am saying - as someone who works in one, my observation shows the exact opposite. It's why I said "strangely enough." Because you'd think all those young kids who refuse to wear them everywhere else, would also refuse to wear them in grocery stores. My take-away on that is - the ones who refuse to wear them everywhere else - are NOT the ones who go to grocery stores. THOSE "kids" at the grocery stores seem to be of a higher class of our species.

jet10s 07-16-2020 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1803986)
I also heard that information on the news yesterday. Why isn't this information enough for our leaders to mandate mask wearing when INDOORS and distancing from others is not guaranteed? That should be a no brainer, especially when it comes to our public health.

because the science does not prove anything about wearing cotton rags on your face -- and I will not wear one -- and that is that -- shop will be on-line


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