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JGVillages 07-22-2020 01:50 PM

230 Felonies
 
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

manaboutown 07-22-2020 02:56 PM

They should all be tried and executed if proven guilty.

NotFromAroundHere 07-22-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

230 criminal charges. Not convictions. But still...

Stu from NYC 07-22-2020 03:05 PM

How does he get out on bail?

retiredguy123 07-22-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NotFromAroundHere (Post 1807290)
230 criminal charges. Not convictions. But still...

There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.

TexaninVA 07-22-2020 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Sounds like the perfect candidate for execution ... we can do without the license plates

...

golfing eagles 07-22-2020 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1807294)
There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.

Yeah, sure:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: The average citizen has been charged 230 times!!!!!

retiredguy123 07-22-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1807317)
Yeah, sure:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: The average citizen has been charged 230 times!!!!!

I agree he is not an average citizen, but you can't put him in jail until you convict him.

JGVillages 07-22-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1807294)
There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.

230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.

golfing eagles 07-22-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1807319)
I agree he is not an average citizen, but you can't put him in jail until you convict him.

I agree. But if I'm ever charged with a crime I want this guy's lawyer. After all, it is likely he has less than 3 felony convictions or would have (should have) been in jail for a long time

TexaninVA 07-22-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807321)
230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.

230 times charged and this dirtbag still ends up on the outside and kills someone ...

It's an indictment of our feeble and flabby justice system which tends to be warped by misplaced compassion for the lawbreakers.

...

Tennisbum 07-22-2020 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1807294)
There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.

Yeah I'm sure it was a mistake every time.......

PhilipB 07-22-2020 05:15 PM

That's quite a police record.

akerwin1909 07-23-2020 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807321)
230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.

The part that is worrisome is that there are likely thousands more like him! Out looking for a reason to hurt someone.

Eg_cruz 07-23-2020 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Maybe time for the “3 Strikes and your out” law in Fl

DrBrutyle109 07-23-2020 05:33 AM

And
 
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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

I know someone that was convicted for a DUI for a 4 minute golf cart ride, where he pulled himself over and called for help. Go figure what the justice system has time for

dewilson58 07-23-2020 05:53 AM

Charges, not convictions.


He's just a misunderstood person.

Byte1 07-23-2020 06:02 AM

Not enough CCW's around when needed. You do not leave a mad dog loose on the public. You put it down.

airdale2 07-23-2020 06:07 AM

reality
 
More likely, tens of thousands

Rwirish 07-23-2020 06:16 AM

And I bet he should have been convicted multiple times.

Ndomines 07-23-2020 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1807294)
There is a huge difference between charging someone with a crime and getting a conviction.

How much can you pay?

The guilty get convicted most of the time. Innocents SADLY get convicted on
rare occasions.
How much you can pay for legal defense is generally what becomes the foundation of the outcome.
Go after the system. Jail the judges and lawyers that make back room deals.

WesMan 07-23-2020 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807321)
230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.

Correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bay Kid 07-23-2020 06:41 AM

Tons of taxpayers money wasted. Lawyers

bobm3 07-23-2020 06:44 AM

230 charges, 15 convictions. Still....

Pedrocarrasco01@yahoo.com 07-23-2020 06:53 AM

Lawyers in the U.S.
 
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Originally Posted by Ndomines (Post 1807500)
How much can you pay?

The guilty get convicted most of the time. Innocents SADLY get convicted on
rare occasions.
How much you can pay for legal defense is generally what becomes the foundation of the outcome.
Go after the system. Jail the judges and lawyers that make back room deals.

Remember that our Country population is about 6% of the World’s population. Also remember that we also have 75% of all the Lawyers in the WORLD, perhaps that is where the problem lies!!!!!!!!

sloanst 07-23-2020 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Sorry, but this guy, T. J. Wiggins, should be taking the celestial dirty nap right now. I can not think of a better reason than this to advocate for our 2nd Amendment rights and that we all need to be diligent with our personal security and safety.

davephan 07-23-2020 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807268)
One of the 3 dirt bags arrested for the brutal murder of 3 in Frostproog FL had 230 previous felony convictions! 230 previous felony convictions! Repeat this 228 more times and see how long that takes. Currently he was out on bond for an attack on someone with a metal bar the broke the victim's arm. This guy should be making license plates for the rest of his life. Seems the incompetence here lies within the judicial system.

Wrong. He should receive the death penalty! Society will be much better off when he is dead. Unfortunately, he can’t be tortured to death in the US.

graciegirl 07-23-2020 07:39 AM

I saw that one had an unusual last name and googled it.

The woman, Mary Clare Whittemore has two small daughters. Poor little ones didn't ask to be born into something so messed up.

Dot Rheinhardt 07-23-2020 07:53 AM

15 former convictions. Out on bail after breaking someone's arm with a metal bar.

Andyb 07-23-2020 07:55 AM

This is a huge problem in America today, there is no rehabilitation in the prison system and too many liberal laws that allow release of thugs. Sheriff Joe Arpaio (may he Rest In Peace) of Arizona, did it right, before he was sued and shut down. No one wanted to come back to his prison system. It’s why the violent protesters won’t stop, there are no consequences. Sad.

MandoMan 07-23-2020 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JGVillages (Post 1807321)
230 times charged! Either the legal systems charging him were mostly incompetent or our legal system failed 230 times. I am sure it will come out how many convictions he had but many were probably pleaded pleaded down to unburden the legal system. No matter what the excuse legal incompetence allowed 3 people to be killed.

Possibly not legal INcompetence but legal competence! I have a niece who works as a public defender in Denver. She spends her days either making deals that keep people out of prison or leave them with minimal sentences or going to court and trying hard to win, all for a salary that barely pays her law school bills. She doesn’t care if the people are guilty. She says her job is to get people off and the prosecuting attorney’s job is to lock people up. They are both necessary. But I couldn’t do what she does! She’s good at what she does and wins a lot of cases and sets free a lot of criminals. Alas.

While I haven’t seen any statistics on this, I’ll bet that most of the people arrested during the protests, riots, lootings, arson, and destruction of public property in the past couple months were freed without charge or fine, much less jail time. Why should they complain if cops also get off on brutality charges when they are also brutal and get off? I think essentially arrests of protestors are made just to get people off the streets for a few hours and perhaps dampen their spirits a little—or maybe give them something to brag about in thirty years when they run for public office.

coconutmama 07-23-2020 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sloanst (Post 1807536)
Sorry, but this guy, T. J. Wiggins, should be taking the celestial dirty nap right now. I can not think of a better reason than this to advocate for our 2nd Amendment rights and that we all need to be diligent with our personal security and safety.

How did TJ Wiggins get his gun? Presume it was not legal?

OhioBuckeye 07-23-2020 08:21 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
I think our legal system is a little corrupt or they’re afraid of something if they do lock this person up. Seems just like what’s going on now with the protesting, they’re afraid it’ll come back on them if they make crime to tough! So it’s better to release someone than face the consequences on them. So your guess is as good as mine why they keep releasing this guy.

collie1228 07-23-2020 08:29 AM

I generally disapprove of the death penalty for a number of reasons. But there are some people and some crimes so heinous that they deserve it. If what the sheriff said about this perp are true, the death penalty is warranted without a doubt. He is a menace to society and if in prison for life, would be a menace to the prison population and staff.

Number 10 GI 07-23-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by coconutmama (Post 1807563)
How did TJ Wiggins get his gun? Presume it was not legal?

The same way people get illegal drugs, through criminal organizations that supply the tools of the trade for the criminal element.

oneclickplus 07-23-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 1807554)
This is a huge problem in America today, there is no rehabilitation in the prison system and too many liberal laws that allow release of thugs. Sheriff Joe Arpaio (may he Rest In Peace) of Arizona, did it right, before he was sued and shut down. No one wanted to come back to his prison system. It’s why the violent protesters won’t stop, there are no consequences. Sad.

Sheriff Joe Arpaio is not dead.

Marvic 1 07-23-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 1807554)
This is a huge problem in America today, there is no rehabilitation in the prison system

They found out that you can't teach stupid new tricks....

BlackhawksFan 07-23-2020 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1807574)
Sheriff Joe Arpaio is not dead.

No but he is a convicted felon, albeit a "pardoned" one.

Mumbles 07-23-2020 09:01 AM

One doesn't....
 
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Originally Posted by TexaninVA (Post 1807328)
230 times charged and this dirtbag still ends up on the outside and kills someone ...

It's an indictment of our feeble and flabby justice system which tends to be warped by misplaced compassion for the lawbreakers.

...

Agree that this case is outrageous. However, there are MANY things we don't know about this case:
1)Has the person been found unable to understand his own motives for the felonies? 2)Has the person been proven to be a mental defective?
3)Has it been the same judge who took him on in court every time?
4)How can we know, without being fully involved in this case, that it is due to MISPLACED COMPASSION that is the reason for his escaping the court's retribution on him? +++

Let's consider JUMPING ASTRONOMICALLY HIGH to conclusions that are, logically, unwarranted.

Let's talk about what kind of citizens we are to give SUMMARY JUDGEMENT on anybody--in a public forum, no less, that we don't even know, who seems to have been involved in far too many breakings of the law.

IMHO, jumping to conclusions is yet ANOTHER way of gossipping.

Mumbles 07-23-2020 09:03 AM

Ummmm
 
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Originally Posted by akerwin1909 (Post 1807443)
The part that is worrisome is that there are likely thousands more like him! Out looking for a reason to hurt someone.

Why is it LIKELY (meaning more that way than not), that there are thousands more like him?


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