Unbearable Noise
 

Really????


Villagers purchased lots/homes next to Turnpike and now they are complaining about the noise.


Really???




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Not much different from buying a house near an airport, or near a firehouse, or near a factory, on a busy street, etc. The deal was too good to pass up, now change the world for me!! Maybe he bought it on the internet. At least with Amazon you can return it.

I know right! Did they not think it would be noisy! Maybe when they looked at it the turnpike wasn’t busy cause of the virus! But DUH! And they want me to put my name on a petition to help them! Nope. And if you bought your home “online” do a satellite search. Bet a lot of people don’t know about the prison 5 miles or so from us too!

No surprise here. Goes along with people griping about the gates or the presence of golf carts after they move here.

We have met people who purchased homes without even seeing them. Or this person might have come once and visited several houses, picked one and left. I agree they should have been better consumers. I purchased a house once that was near a small airport, but we had to purchase quickly, really did not pay attention when driving in, and there were no planes out that day. Now this never became a problem but we missed this entirely.

Monarch Grove
 

Shaking my head... Idiot. I live in Monarch Grove. It’s great. I looked at homes nearer the Turnpike but thought to myself “Hmmm... Turnpike. Noise.” And I bought a few streets away - it’s great here and I don’t hear any Turnpike noise. Totally peaceful. I’m very happy in MG. I wont sign his petition. Idiot.

I believe OP referred to news article on another site that reported a home owner in Monarch Grove is circulating a petition to neighbors asking TV to build a wall or do something to negate the noise of the Florida Turnpike and now he wants to create an issue because of his decision.

Maybe all that is needed is the same attitude that tolerates the golf cart NOISE behind all the homes along the golf course fairways....that commanded a premium for being there.....

I agree. The house in question is 100 yards from the freeway. Didn’t they stand outside in the back and listen? Of course it’s going to be loud outside. There’s a good chance they won’t hear it inside with the windows closed, though, and some music playing. I wouldn’t buy that lot, and that’s probably why the price wasn’t very high for it. As it is, my house is 250 yards from 466, so I can hear that road, but so it goes. It also has golf carts going past on the golf course. It goes with the territory. It could be that the homeowners could get the interstate highway commission to put up barriers, but it shouldn’t be something we pay through our fees.

As for what an individual homeowner should do, there are dense shrubs that could be planted in several rows and would in a few years be six feet tall and cut the decibels perceived on the lanai enough so it’s less awful.

The people comparing this to airports are right. Denver International Airport was built miles out on the prairie, far from houses. Then thousands of houses were built a few miles away. Now homeowners are suing to get the flight paths changed. Really? Is that fair? Let the buyer beware! Or, as it says in the book of Revelation, “Let he who has ears, hear!”

Ya have to do your homework....just maybe the wind was always blowing in the opposite direction whenever they looked at the house and never heard the noise from the Turnpike

while they're waiting to hear if a 'noise barrier' will be installed they can always enclose their lanai and invest in a whole house music system

Sounds like the people I knew who purchased a home next to O'hare Airport in Chicago!

Folks speak of the developers as if they were forever responsible for every aspect of the homeowners happiness. They built a beautiful community and sold you a house. It ends there. All the petitions in the world won't change "caveat emptor". If you don't like your situation, sell it and move on. Thanks to the wonderful place we live, there is a strong resale market.

When you purchase a house close to a busy turnpike, you get what you pay for.

I wouldn't buy a house near any busy roadway or Pickle-ball court.

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Personally I understand their plight and issue - BUT they bought there, hopefully with the knowledge of exact location and environment. Another BUT - one would think that TV would have installed sound barrier walls as we see in many communities near highways etc, esp the Turnpike on the way to airport. One of those 'buyer beware' matters. As said before by others here, a #1 on list for us when we were considering TV lots was QUIET - no pickleball, main streets, back cart paths close to rear, etc etc.

to add some clarity - from the 'online news site'>

Villager launches petition drive over ‘unbearable’ noise from Florida Turnpike
July 22, 2020

Meta Minton
A Villager has launched a petition effort over noise from the Florida Turnpike.

Harold Meyer of the Village of Monarch Grove earlier this month took his complaint about noise from the Turnpike before the Project Wide Advisory Committee. He said the noise at his home at 5752 Hickey Way has become “unbearable.” Meyer suggested that more landscaping could be added, or perhaps even a wall. However, PWAC was not receptive to his plight.
Undeterred, Meyer has launched a petition effort in a quest to gain the support of his neighbors in the Village of Monarch Grove.

“I am spearheading a petition to ask the Developers of our community to deal with the road noise created by the Florida Turnpike,” Meyer said.

Thus far, he has collected 140 signatures.

“While the noise level is noticeable east of Corbin Trail, I have spoken to Zientara Loop residents west of Corbin Trail that also hear road noise. This issue impacts property values as well as the quality of life in and outside the home,” he said.

Meyer purchased his home in May 2019 for $231,500. At least a dozen homes remain unsold on Hickey Way.
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We looked at the new houses south of 44 many times in the last few years, but I couldn't justify the closeness to the turnpike or those power lines. We bought used north of 44 instead.

Stupid! The Villages/Developer did not force you to buy this house. He/she made a very poor $200k+ decision and it is no one's fault but their own. You didn't KNOW the turnpike was there? Really?!?!

I think a noise reducing barrier is a great idea, but it is not up to the developer. The house was built as it is, one bought it as it is so that’s what they got. If there had been a barrier the price they’d have to pay was higher, so if one wants a bargain there are compromises.

If you don’t like noise and you made a mistake in where you bought, the answer is you have to get a different house, somewhere else. One is smarter and wiser as a result.... better choices next time.

The fact that the homes were built along the existing turnpike takes the onus of a sound barrier out. The end of this video closes the door.

FDOT FTE Noise Wall Overview - YouTube

Right. Rather than makes big issue of it, wait the obligatory year and sell. There are some folks who wouldn’t mind the noise (not me).

Just means my home on Belle Glade Golf Course will be worth more when I decide to sell since all those who bought next to the most travelled four lane in FL will be dumping those and wanting to move a little more North. Have fun.

You only need to wait a year if you plan to sell the house for more than you paid for it. That is not likely, since about a dozen houses are still for sale on his street.

Or put in a pickleball court. They'll forget all about turnpike noise after that.

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Agree!

Until they add a third lane to the Turnpike.

You didn't see homes near the turnpike or power lines a few years ago, it has only been the recent villages that are over there. It is very peaceful and quiet in Fenney.

I moved here from the midwest and farming country. We lived in a small rural community with near-by farms. I remember some folks that would buy a parcel from a farmer and build a house....THEN...get ready for it.....would complain about "country smells". You know, farm animal odors?!

That aside though....years ago we moved to a new state and community. Housing was scarce in our price-range and we had a weekend to look and purchase. We did that and then later found out the home while on a city-street, it was also a state highway. Didn't realize that when we put the offer in NOR realize that it was a blue-collar town that had shift workers (3 shifts per day) and traffic would ramp up a bit at the shift-change. BUT we weren't bothered by it as things turned out. I don't remember traffic noise so much but getting out of our drive-way at times, could be a beast. I don't feel sorry for the people that buy, then complain later.

I would like the builder to do something about the heat, humidity and thunderstorms.

When we were looking last year saw several homes we liked and noticed were on a major road.

Listened to the noise and said not for us. Salesman said put up landscaping and noise will not be so bad.

Said sure and bought elsewhere. Wonder how often that happens to unsuspecting buyers?

Also do something about the birds and bees that keep flying into my yard.:icon_wink:

I was just amazed how quickly a Turnpike was built after he bought his house...

You are right, selling could be a major problem. Had a friend who bought a brand new home by the villages high school. Was very much aware of the school, didn't consider it a problem and didn't have any desire to be far from young people, nothing like that. Even stayed in a rental villa near where they bought "just to make sure what everyday life would be, noise, proximity to groceries, to church, etc." THEN once the permanent move was made..... NO WAY did they think about the huge stadium lights, the roars and cheers for the sports (and they LOVE sports, but no amount of window closing our TV turn ups, can drown out the experience of living in the middle of a stadium...it was VERY tough but an agency finally got it sold to (probably ?) someone else who thought they would be fine living by a high school but never REALLY thought about what life would be like during football, baseball, track, etc. etc. seasons. Sometimes even people who do try to be cautious, get caught off guard.... Like another friend whose yard is RIGHT next to a pickleball court, I mean RIGHT adjoining. TRY to sell that for what they paid. Eventually yes, after many years to get enough appreciation and before depreciation set in, they did move to another local in the V's, but NOT next to a rec center and neighborhood pool ! It happens.

Amazing how people do not think things thru with making a rather large investment.

True and then the bridges will be in the news.

Welcome to south of 44.

I grew up in Florida as the interstate system was built. I 4 cut our land in half with road within 50 Yards of my window. No AC in those days. We lived. Stop being an old baby in a few months you won't even notice.

Had to smile when I read this. Love my home in Caroline, spend 4 months a year in Michigan. Sold northern home last year, have condo now. Fell in love with low price, remodeled, very happy. However, my development is near a busy road and highway. Thought I would get used to the noise. Wrong again. However, this is a place I only spend 4 months, so putting up with it. No one to blame but myself.

Turnpike noise
 

I have always used the airport analogy because I once knew someone who joined a class action suit forcing an airport to soundproof the homes they bought next to an airport. This guy got a good price figuring he could get what he wanted later for nothing. Shove his petition.

"Sounds" like those would be ideal properties for people with hearing loss. Lower price and no noise.

You do not move next to the outside movie drive in then B@*!* about the movies. Be responsible for your own decision. If it was not near the highway you would of paid $50,000 more but decided it was ok. LOL

Thanks for sharing that video! So, the house was built after the freeway was announced, so the Florida Department of a Transportation is not responsible and won’t build a noise wall.

The owner should note that a noise wall isn’t likely to cut the volume more than 7 decibels near the wall and 5 decibels across the street. What does that mean? The decibel scale is a bit like the Richter Scale for earthquakes. 80 decibels is 100% louder than 70 decibels. 90 decibels is 100% louder than 80 decibels. (My acoustic guitar, played as loud as possible, can reach 98 decibels two feet in front of the sound hole, but ten feet away it’s not that loud.)

I have a decent decibel meter on my iPad that I downloaded from the App Store. It cost maybe $5. It’s called SPLnFFT, whatever that means. It’s very easy to use. I recommend getting one. Measure the decibel level in the back yard. Now go to the front of the house and measure the level. How many decibels less? 10? 20? If so, that is FAR more sound reduction than you would get from a wall. What is the level in the house, in various rooms? Are some rooms noisier than others? I’m in a silent room with the central air conditioning on as I write this. The decibel level is 36. A loud exhalation from two feet away raises that to 70 decibels for a moment.

I’m sorry to tell the original complainer this (not the original poster), but I think your best solution is to sell your house and buy another one as far as possible from a large road. Of course, you could end up with neighbors a few feet away who play music you can’t stand or have hearing problems and watch television on their lanai with the volume very high. Often even a normal conversational level from thirty feet away can be easily overheard. Then there are the people who talk on the telephone as if they were using two tin cans and a string—a conversational shout. Good luck.