Think Twice
 

I notice that around 85-90% of the deaths from the Virus indicate the unfortunate victim had contact with a person who had had the virus! In today's reporting all 7 had been in contact with a person who had the virus. I then go by one of the Bar's in Sumter Landing and see the many who are not using 6 feet distance and don't have a mask on! Either they have not seen the statistics regarding the risks of that behavior or don't care. It may be really smart to think twice when you throw out the suggestions for control of your behavior?:ohdear:

The UK has shut down all the pubs

We have witnessed the same, no restaurants and large crowds for us. We are not afraid with wearing masks a necessary precaution. Our concern is the consistent reports of 5 people daily testing positive for COVID in The Villages. Issue being delays in getting test results in a timely manner. Contact tracing in non existent in Florida. Infected people are walking among us.
Testing numbers have gone down from 100,000 daily to near 30,000 is it that important to rush to phase 3 reopening. Play safe, stay healthy.

I believe the number is 100% have had contact with another person who is carrying the virus.

Am I missing something?

Have not.
I am in my local now!:beer3:

Does your local carry Theakston Old Peculier? My favorite!

Bombardier man myself.
Theakston is a good pint though.
Just us regulars are peculier!:icon_wink:

Nope

:)

Glad to see your light bulb just came on.

I interpreted the OP's percentage as meaning direct personal contact with someone having the virus, versus getting it off of an object that an infected person touched.

Just to get us all excited again!
Live coronavirus found on meat, seafood weeks later, researchers say | Fox News

Amazed
 

I am always amazed how far some will go to demonstrate their anger and negativity. I see there was a comment that "glad to see my light bulb just came on". Actually, today they reported 7 passed away and all had had some contact with a person who had the virus.
Although I have been seeing these kind of statistics for quite awhile and observed the people at bars in Sumter Landing without masks and ignoring the 6 foot distance recommendation, this I guess you could say was that famous straw that broke the Camel's back. Yep, my light bulb came on to say something and I did. I would have hoped many are also seeing this problem and making some comment rather than letting others mention it and critiizing them?.

IMO let’s Face it, most people think they are bullet proof And it won’t affect them, especially younger adults. Some just can’t separate or stay apart. I see private gathering all over. What part do they NOT get? keep you’re distance from people you don’t know where they been or who they had contact with. I see plane’s coming in daily, do you really think they are isolating themselves. The cycle going to be hard to break.

IMO I think it’s very hard (not impossible, but hard) to get It off something ( especially outdoors) unless you’re licking you’re finger’s all the time and not washing you’re hands. IMO it’s airborne and you walk through it or it’s gets directed you’re way and you inhale it. IMO when somebody coughs or sneezes 6 feet not going to be enough.

100%
 

Since it's communicable. Any less is like saying, "95% of putts left short usually don't go in."

Thanks for saying what I was thinking! Ron

I believe that statistic just means that 85-90% of the people know WHO infected them. They find out that their spouse, family member, friend that they regularly play cards with, etc. has tested positive, they have some symptoms, and they go get tested.

While it’s possible that you can get the virus from asymptomatic carriers, since most people are social distancing and wearing masks, and going out less, there are a smaller percentage of cases where people have no idea how they got it.

That’s my interpretation.

You know what I would like to see? All you paranoid people that have not yet realized that you cannot hide from a virus, just stay home and leave the rest of us alone. We are living life. We don’t walk around with masks over our faces that do no good anyway! If we get the virus we will deal with it. If we don’t we won’t. It’s just another virus with the same mortality rate as the flu. COVID-19 is not a death sentence for over 99% of us! You still don’t realize that this thing has been weaponized by the media for political purposes. So stay home if you choose but just be quiet about it!

It may not be a death sentence but it messes up life. A friend had to postpone a hip replacement because of a positive test. Now will loss income for additional weeks or months. A Grandparent cannot hold the grandchild ,positive test. A trip overseas for a family celebration canceled. Positive test. Hours of concern when notified by a place of business that staff tested positive and You might want to get tested. Nope not a death sentence a life messed up. Those at risk do take precautions and do try to live. Those who still think this is like the flu...maybe you need to be quiet and just hang with others who are self-centered. We all need to be self responsible. Not insulting. Don't wear a mask fine stay away from those of us who do. Maybe we are positive and protecting you or your loved ones? Maybe we are choosing to live longer and not die an ugly painful death. Maybe we know if we get it that it will be death or worse living with horrid body results from it. Personally I would take having the flu over Covid-19.

This is just a guess on my part, but is it possible that the people who caught Covid from surfaces touched by someone but were not in close proximity to the person were excluded?

The key phrase I have seen in the reports is "have been in contact with another patient" with patient being the key word. People in bars are not patients.

Most all that report “had been in contact with another person” are in a assisted living, memory care, nursing home or similar facility, who had been in contact with the one staff person who was positive.

I'm not one for conspiracy theories to begin with but this one would involve over the leaders of over 180 counties getting together behind closed doors.

The problem with simply staying home and being quiet about it is that every person that contracts the virus is a danger to every person that comes near him. if you pick up the virus by hanging out at a bar and then stop at a supermarket on your way home, you have possibly infected several other people, especially if you don't wear a mask. Masks mostly protect the people around the wearer. Now those people go home to family members and are a threat to them.

It may not be a death sentence for 99% of the people, but we don't often hear the statistics of how many people suffer permanent damage after contracting the virus. Some people have to be hospitalized which is not a pleasant experience. Also we all need to take into consideration that we are in an area with a large number of people that are at very high risk to die if they contract the virus.

The idea that social distancing and wearing masks will help stop the spread of the virus is accepted experts in over 180 countries. The longer this goes on, the longer these protocols will remain in place.

As for it being no different than the seasonal flu, I don't recall the seasonal fly lasting for eight months or more. I don't believe that the seasonal flu is as contagious as Covid-19. This virus spreads faster than any other that we have experienced.

The more people that follow the recommended guidelines, the better off we'll all be. It's not simply about you, it's about everyone around you.

My girlfriend’s parents three hours south of The Villages, ages 91 and 85, have been in the hospital fighting this virus for 17 days. Her dad is doing better and may be transferred to a rehab hospital today so he can learn to walk again. Her mother is sinking. I don’t think she is going to make it.

Yes, people die of the flu, often in the hospital, but not usually after long struggles like this to stay alive. They claim they stayed away from other people and wore masks and gloves. But they went to the barber shop and the beauty parlor and the nail salon, though there were precautions. The mom went shopping. She wore rubber gloves, then took them off for reuse, pulling on the possibly contaminated fingertips. They went out to dinner a couple times. They had a couple “safe” couples over. Two of those safe men now have the virus. The dad sat head to head with one guy who came over explaining something. No mask, but he was safe. The mom gave a big hug to the neighbors across the street, one of whom is on chemotherapy right now. So now he has it. Or did he give it to them? Who knows.

You are right that for most of us, it is no worse than a cold or the flu. You are right that the number who are in the hospital is perhaps overblown. But when the people who treat these sick people and give them rides and take their money at cash registers and do their nails for a living are at much higher risk of illness or even death, it should be sobering. If I were a nurse or a doctor, I would be seriously scared. If I were still teaching, as I was a few months ago, I would be very nervous.

I wish there were, say, a special color of shirt or hat that people could wear that symbolizes that the wearer doesn’t believe in all this and is making no attempt to avoid this sickness. Then those of us who are nervous could just quietly keep our distance.

Can't Make It up
 

You can't make it up, there are some who actually think the Virus is a "so what risk". Can't figure if this is trying to be "macho" or just stupid? A measure that can/should be used when considering the behavior "is it worth my life" if I attend and get the virus? I would suggest asking if it is worth risking another persons life but judging from a few responses that is not a priority in their selfish agenda. I feel bad for those who actually get the virus but my sympathy for these selfish behavior people is really low. Why give a hoot for those who expose others? Hey, I've a great idea for these behavior challenged people. Why not go to a facility (Rehab/Hospital) and volunteer to help out. We have a son that works in one of these facilities and they can always use additional help for replacements of those workers who have the Virus from contacts. :ohdear:

well I guess our local newspaper and social media had it incorrect about the pubs in the UK

gosh, who knew that they wouldn't have been absolutely 100% accurate

stay safe

Hey you! Wear a mask
and practice social distancing.

Don’t be socially irresponsible and put fellow Villagers at risk.

Two Key Words: Stupid & Selfish.

Many years ago, 2009, there was a virus called the swine flu. 60 million Americans caught it. They stopped testing because they could not keep up. It did not cause the close down of the country or the world. That specific strain of flu is now considered a normal seasonal flu. Stop whining. This happens periodically and not everyone will survive, especially the frail. It is a reality of life. So wash your hands. Wear a mask, which may do nothing, if it makes you happy, and allow people the freedom to live their lives.

They don't care, if they are a carrier of the virus without any symptom they can spread it to many others About the people that say it;s their right to not wear a mask, I'm glad that residents in London during the night bombing did not take the position that "I'm going to keep my lights on because it;s my right"

I think most of these are from nursing homes which have many deaths due to the outbreak of the virus with both patients and workers there.

This is nothing like the regular flu. There can be many long term problems with lungs, heart and other organs.

Here are some relevant statistics - 25% of Americans have been tested. 58% know someone that has had it. 20% of Americans know someone who has Died of CV. These numbers are SLOWLY projecting upward.
......Spain HAD its CV problem under control like most of Europe. But, unlike the rest of Europe, they opened up too much too quickly - and now they have returned to their previous highs and have big problems and confusion. They let in tourists from the UK. Spain was GREEDY for their routine summer beach boom and tourist MONEY from the UK.
......The US could easily experience the same situation with regular Flu Season coming up. The US return to schools and other "normal" activity makes a large 2nd wave of CV likely!

You neglected one likely cause: STUPIDITY!

Don’t you mean the 3rd wave?

Sure, keep living life and don't wear a mask. Some of us prefer not to gamble our lives and permanent lung or heart damage. Who's right? It sort of doesn't matter. We paranoids will continue to "stay home," while you fearless types will continue to stay out and propagate the virus. And while the virus numbers stay high, we paranoids are staying home and not spending money at small businesses, and the economy stays in the tank. And the circle continues.

This.

It's not being transmitted to any measurable degree by fomites(surfaces). Countries that are doing extensive contact tracing have very very few unsolved cases. The vast majority of cases they are able to track to an infected person. All the hand sanitizer and chlorox wipes are a waste of time and effort. It doesn't hurt to clean as regular rhinoviruses and traditional flu can pass that way, but it's not preventing covid transmission. It's just drying out people's hands and making them paranoid to open a door.

And now for the rest of the story!
 

Only 12,500 Americans died from the Swine Flu.

If you were given a jar of 100 jelly beans and two of them would cause your death, five of them would make you very ill, and twenty five of them would make you mildly ill, would you eat from that jar?

Are you saying, that the majority of the people who dies from the virus came in contact with someone who had the virus? Isn't that a bit like, if your grandmother did not have any children there is a 50% chance that you will not either.