Another police shooting
 

Major news reported a police shooting of a black man yesterday. Showed the black man refusing to listen to the police then reached into his car for something, then police shot him.

Why can't they just listen to the police for the moment. Now it is the policeman's fault. Bad kids.

It’s the culture of the people getting shot. They see the martyrdom that the trash thug felon George Floyd created and with no common sense in their thought process; they pull a gun, fight the Police, run and draw a weapon - over and over and over - anything other than what common sense would tell them to do.

When pulled over by police they will watch your hands to make sure you will not threaten them.

Why is this so hard.

Now they will have excuses to destroy more businesses and loot.

The victim, Jacob Blake, criminal record as recent as July 2020 includes:

-Stragulation

-Bail jumping

- Assult

-Sexual Assult

-Domestic Violence

I doubt this was reported on MSM. 'This' being his violent criminal record.

This has been going on way before the Floyd incident with the lost of respect.

It seems to be very well covered in all media.

Always wonder the need to condemn those who report what is happening.

It's a bad decision to test the police officer's will to survive given the short reaction time he has and placing the officer in that position. People just blatantly think they can do what they want now. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Sad this person didn't value his own life.

Where did this happen!

Kenosha, Wisconsin

Yup well covered in the media, yet the teenage girl who was killed by 4 black youths was barely publicized. National media covering that...........maybe very lightly. Then there was the 6 year old who was shot and killed by a black neighbor. We're screwed in plain English.

Veronica Baker: 4 teenagers charged in death of 17-year-old found near Raleigh Bojangles on Jones Sausage Road - ABC11 Raleigh-Durham


Family of 5-year-old boy shot and killed by a neighbor: '''We shouldn'''t even be here''' - ABC News

To take the racial focus off the shooting....all police involved shootings that day should be reported.
Secondly all non police shootings listed for that day as well.

The medias continual, selective race reporting/promoting needs to be put into the perspective of reality VS selective out of context, sensationalism seeking, disruptive reporting.

You nailed it

Sometimes I marvel at the sheer...whatever....of this forum. If you simply google the poor girls name, you will find pages...not page, but pages of news reports yet you all say it is not reported.

What do you read for news. Having people blame the media like this is scary because it points out how some control so many others.

Addressing the actual issue seems to be a lost "art" or ability.

"The media" is not a singular thing. IT - the singular thing that doesn't exist, doesn't "focus on specific incidents" any more than "The media" - any other singular thing that doesn't exist, focuses on specific incidences.

The category of "the media" includes all media. A spectrum of media that ranges from tweets on the internet to live coverage of disasters to National Geographic investigative 4-part report series on the reproductive cycle of arachnids, and everything inbetween.

Each will have its own perspective of facts, and each will relay those facts in a way that will grab the interest of its paid subscribers most.

Mainstream Media doesn't even mean anything anymore, OTHER than as a dogwhistle for the alt-right and leftist propaganda mills. It basically means "any form of media that is pushing an agenda that OUR agenda-creators disagree with."

White Nationalists will hate Ebony magazine, because Ebony magazine promotes topics of interest to black people. Ebony magazine will hate Stormfront, because Stormfront promotes topics of interest to Nazis.

The networks, ABC, NBC, and CBS, cater to middle America, because middle America are who watch those networks the most.

Once people get their heads out of their leftist, alt-right, nazi, racist, anti-male, anti-female, anti-pro-choice, anti-choice, anti this that and the other thing butt cheeks, they'll have the opportunity to realize that facts really do exist, and facts are not always conspiracies, and conspiracies are often wrong.

Til then, keep enjoying the bubble you've put around your head while living in the bubble. And remember that bubble isn't a mask. Please wear one when you go grocery shopping.

Thanks.

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Thank you for the guidance. We do get carried away here sometimes.

And the other side of the story is that Blake was trying to "deescalate" a domestic incident when police drew their weapons and tasered him. As he was walking away to check on his children, police fired their weapons seven times into his back at point blank range. Blake's three sons were only a few feet away. I think we need to wait for the results of the investigation until all facts are known before we jump to conclusions. And his prior record, if he has one, has nothing to do with this situation. It does not justify a police shooting.

Well said !!

What and ruin a good story!

I may be mistaken but in almost 100% of these encounters with police that end badly there seems to always have been some element of resisting arrest and it escalates from there. I for one think the penalties for resisting arrest, assaulting an officer, failure to stop (in most cases), and interfering with an officer should be automatic and substantial if proven. Watching these peaceful (sarcasm) protests for 3 month and seeing the abuse law enforcement is subjected to and takes amazes this old grandfather.

I really think that a person's "prior record" always has to do with the situation. A person who is well known to the police and with a history of violence is more dangerous. ALWAYS.

We all profile. It is how we save our bacon every day in a thousand ways. We use assessments and reasoning and we know when to walk and when to run and when to avoid a situation. It is Darwin's survival of the fitness and the smartest. There are many forms of humans recognizing danger. Not every human has all the perceptions of smelling a rat. I think gender figures into it too. These days we are deemed politically incorrect for even bringing up gender or innate ability. But mankind has used these ways of protecting themselves and protecting their family and protecting their homes to the betterment of civilization. Now we are directed to ignore reasonable assessments of danger.

I am sure you are not saying that having a "record" allows your being shot in the back for anything except of corse to save another life.

That was my understanding of the post to which I responded with well said (post you respond to)

Other reason for my "well said" was the caution that we do not know the entire story yet we have "opinions" which appear to be based on skin color, which I find offensive. No threads are begun without that ingredient.

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...and here we go again!
Cell phones at the ready.
News ready to pounce.
Lawyers ready to investigate.

Well, only if it a cop is the shooter and the Minority is the shootee.

They (you know who I mean) are just chompin' at the bit for more and more. and more.

NO ONE waits for details of the shooting - why, how, what, who. THOSE details - even if the shooting was warranted is non-news after the inital flare-up.

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Having a record does not allow you to be shot however it is rather remarkable that in all the police shootings we have seen the guy getting shot has a record a yard long.

Having said this if the police are guilty they deserve to be held accountable.

And this is an excuse for a new round of riots and destruction.

In 99% of police shootings once all the facts are out it is clear why they shot and are found not guilty. The police tried to stop him getting into his car by nonviolent means first (grabbing his shirt) then when Blake bent down to grab a weapon the police had to defend themselves and shot. As regards the seven shots, in a tense situation one bullet or even several may not stop a determined criminal.

"As he was walking away to check on his children, police fired their weapons seven times into his back at point blank range."

I can't imagine the thinking behind his decision to check on his kids while the police were pointing guns at him. I'm sure they were also giving him commands to follow.

I will not rush to judgment on whether the cop acted properly or not.

I can say that I wouldn't want to be the officer that felt the need to shoot Mr Blake. I can imagine the fear of the situation. A man clearly disregarding my commands as I point my gun at him and goes around his vehicle, opens the drivers door and reaches inside as I pull at his shirt. Now I have to decide if I want to wait and see what he's reaching for and hope it's not a gun. If it's a gun I'll probably get shot, if he's just taking this moment to check on his kids then I'll be in a lot of trouble. If I shoot I'm a bad cop, if I don't I could be a dead cop.

If I was a cop, I would quit my job. I would not want people like Mr Blake putting me in this situation because he wanted to go check on his kids while 3 cops have guns pointed at him.

I have defended blm and stand against racism where racism exists but I don't defend the actions of people that put our police officers in dangerous situations so they can call it racism, for a money grab or whatever.

Hopefully the investigation will exonerate the police and Mr Blake will recover fully.

The police are trained to shoot until the threat is no longer a threat.

Than their is the old police expression, Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

If these people would only follow the officers instructions we would all be in a better place.

Don’t you think you should take your own advice and wait for results of the investigation before jumping to conclusions?
Domestic abuser stops to breakup domestic dispute? Not likely.
Went to check on his kids. Were they under the seat?

There just has to be more than what was seen on the video, or even reported as this started as a domestic dispute, so I'll wait to hear a lot more facts before judging what looks right now to me, like an out of control and scared officer trying to murder him. To justify 7 shots, point blank, into the back of an unarmed man however, it is going to take an awful lot to convince me to even imagine this being justified. As for whatever prior record he had, that has absolutely nothing to do with what the officer did (that's for a jury or judge at the time of any potential sentencing) and it's sad to think that anyone would feel otherwise. I am amazed that the guy is even still alive at this point, so I'm hoping for a full recovery so that our justice system can work like it's supposed to. I am also hoping that people allow the system to work and they don't start rioting, looting or setting things on fire. If they do, they need to be arrested and prosecuted fully.

Wonder, with all the seemingly information we read on here....is there a way to determine if any white guys (or gals) are shot while resisting arrest or thought to ?

There must be one white guy that resisted arrest....do none of them get shot like this.

Serious question....not being a smart aleck. Just seems we always hear about the guy **** having a record....is it a coincidence about skin color ?

Seems like rioting has already started. So many of these people seem to be looking at an excuse to steal or destroy other peoples property.

And there is no outrage or protesting when blacks kill blacks by the thousands??????

Not exactly what I was looking for, but interesting numbers.

Police shootings of any color has exploded...why isn't that a story by any race.

Not an expert but have known a LOT of police officers over the years. Always felt there were some seriously aggressive officers, and have doubted why some became police.

Not an ok for rioting by any stretch, but I do realize what angers blacks.....now I ask why is not the general population upset about the sudden and dramatic increase in police shooting citizens.

Shootings and other violent crimes have recently dramatically increased in number in some large cities such as NYC, Chicago, Baltimore and others. This has of course brought about more criminal-police encounters. If criminals behave as many do, such as not keeping their hands in sight, resisting arrest, appearing to be reaching for a weapon, or threatening with a weapon they are likely to get shot by LEOs. In all but a very few cases, a criminal's behavior is what causes him to be shot. They tend to be the dimmer bulbs on the tree, no matter their race.

Wow what did George Floyd do wrong?
I guess the officer that had his knee on his neck for almost 9 minutes while he was cuffed up was in danger for his life!
Your comment speaks in volume as to what type of mindset you have!

Yes. If you commit a crime, don’t run from the police. How many “white” people get shot by police? Do we riot every time.

My life matters. I am a Caucasian. If I get a directive from an officer and it has been a while I did obey. I don't make any sudden movements or make the officer think he or she is at risk. My hands are on the wheel when I get pulled over and I let the officer know immediately about the weapons in the car.

I give respect, I get respect. I also try not to judge. I wasn't one of the officers on the scene. The ENTIRE story must be found out not just a few snippets on the news.

Why aren't we all outraged about the increase in violence in America. Last weekend 64 people were shot across Chicago, seven of them fatally. A 12-year-old boy and six teenagers were among those wounded.

In New York CIty at least 45 people were shot, eight fatally, since Friday.

Six people were shot, one killed in weekend shootings across Portland.

Why aren't we outraged about this? Why isn't this the lead story on national news? Why aren't we trying to understand and reduce violence in our cities.

Why is the media laser focused on 1 police shooting in Kenosha, WI when 64 + 45 + 6 people were shot and 16 were killed in just 3 cities over the weekend?