What “Super Spreader” event?
 

Interesting how the news media tells us what to think. We all heard about how the recent rally in The Villages would be another Super Spreader event. “Peaceful protests” were okay according to the media, but rallies were Super Spreaders. Now that more than two weeks have passed since the rally and there has been no surge of new cases, you have heard nothing more from the media. The media sells fear to promote their agenda. They tell you what you should believe. And because they package it as “news” people accept it as fact.

The election is over. (supposedly)

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The human mind has evolved to reacted strongly to danger as opposed to pleasure for survival, so in a commercial enterprise, what do you expect? However, if want to be critical you can certainly pick a day length but I prefer to look positively that epidemics come in waves, and I am hoping that the pattern of super spreader events that aren’t producing increase in hospitalizations is a positive sign in our adaptability and improved medical outcomes.

:bigbow:

We still don't know everything about this virus. It can sometimes take longer for the spread to show up. The Sturgis biker rally is a good example. That area is really bad. For such a remote state, this can be the only reason why it's so bad right now.

Just be thankful The Villages is not like South Florida YET. Fortunately we do not have the same demographics.

Huh?

Hospitals are starting to overflow across the country?

Where are you getting that “news” from? Here is a link to the CDC site showing the percentage of occupied ICU beds across the USA. These numbers fall into the same normal range as you would have without the Coronavirus.
https://healthdata.gov/sites/default...01108_2221.csv
Another example of main stream media spreading false information as facts...

The weather now in FL is less conducive for virus spreading. which is great, more outdoor life, less air conditioning and indoor activities. Up North in New England, a week long church event put a couple dozen people in the hospital as well as some ice hockey games. And the hospitalizations are starting to rise without any super spreader events, due to more conducive weather for spreading, drier air and indoor activities. In TV, I would expect less hospitalization rates now through April than during the summer.

@swoop - that's just part of the hospitalization data, ICU, covid also takes up acute care beds, where most people go first, which added on top of normal acute care bed usage, is overflowing the hospitals. . . So your story isn't the complete picture either, cherry picking facts.

sportsguy

The poster stated that hospitals were “starting to overflow across the country”. You also indicated that same sentiment. Show me that data. Not a news report or an article. Not a single anomaly. The actual un-manipulated data to support that.

Selling fear and manipulating people.... in spades, you hit the proverbial nail on the head. Don't care what your party, get smart people, our very thoughts are being shaped by yahoo, Facebook, one line addiction, cell phone addiction, and cable TV. Maybe it's time for high schools to put Animal Farm BACK on the mandatory list and BTW, thinking and logical thinking CAN be taught ! All day long on TV, Fluzone QUAD, 4 times strength for seniors and FREE FOLKS, FREE. Not much said about 30% effectiveness ! ? Investigate, question, you don't have to live as a cynical person just because you are cautious and careful, but remember, many people do not like people who ask detailed questions concerning anything: purchasing a car, cell phone, computer, or asking too many technical questions at all many times ! LOL !

Be careful, people want "facts" , but not too many facts; especially if they are not useful to supporting their opinion ! :bigbow:
He who speaks the WHOLE truth you know...... not a popular guy ?

bingo !

"Selling fear and manipulating people.... in spades"


Some people are exceedingly accomplished at doing this.

Exactly....thanks, those with even an iota of logic have gotten that...

Shortly you will be out of news.

I dont know what media you listen to, but I heard a lot about spreading covid during the protests.

So, why are you keeping your sources a secret. Let us all know! Post them here. Do it now!😀

Perfectly stated.

Do you realize how long ago the Sturgis rally was? You need to try to use actual reason instead of living with fear.

The politicians now say they want to spread out the virus over a long time and are finally admitting that a huge percentage of the population will eventually get the virus. Since this is the case, why not get it over sooner than later. Time to start living your life instead of living in fear.

What??? Its exactly the same. Older retired people, snowbirds, visitors, family from out of state, grandkids coming and using facilities. It Couldnt be more the same.

So hockey games are getting hospitalized with COVID or were the church people playing hockey and had to be hospitalized with their injuries?

A super spreader event to me would be a large number of people, packed shoulder to shoulder, yelling, screaming, laughing and no masks. I view it two ways, something that has already occurred (like the rose garden party) and something that has the potential to become one (like several presidential rallies where you could see people not adhering to standards in the backdrop).

There’s a concerted effort ongoing in this country to divide the country in two by promoting an “us vs them” strategy. They use terms like “ fear mongering” and “ fake news”, both terms heavily pushed by one side to accomplish this. It’s meant to promote an alternate set of facts they can sell so you to drive disbelief in the other side’s reporting.

When you disbelieve news about this virus, which not only kills but damages your organs enough your life expectancy can be shortened, it’s a concern for everyone in the villages

When a possible super spreader event turns out to not be one, it’s time to be thankful, not time to point fingers at the media.

And you are getting your information from ?
:bigbow:

For those who don't believe states running out of beds, acute care plus intensive care see the idaho state web site for utilization and utilization warning levels. . . COVID-19 Surveillance

Note the fastest increase is in acute care beds, and that the total threshold is approaching the critical 85% which means that there isn't enough beds for expected nursing capacity, staff and ICU beds for non covid expectations. . . and some proportion of acute care moves to intensive care. . . .

I read a tweet of a person I know, used to work in my past industry, and his brother in law is a med flight pilot:

Bro-in law is life flight pilot

His company is transporting COVID patients from UT and ID to hospitals in Portland because no more beds in those states

So what part of the hospitals running out of beds do you not believe? or are you just cherry picking numbers to support your belief, which is blatant confirmation bias, the basis of idealogues. . . or you just listen to demagogues because you can't adapt to new or change. . .

And how much data and hospital experience do you all really have? or are you using your expert google degree? The mis-use of information by both media and government is so blatant when you are privy to actual hospital data by named individual, as my wife does. And I have done data analytics / forecasting for a living for the last 30 years, and easily see cherry picking data to represent their reality, which means that they want a certain reality or outcome. . .

The other problem of the deniers, is that when the surge does come, like in Oklahoma a few months earlier, most conveniently forget and move on to the next idealogue confirmation stat, which is always take out of context with incorrect context. . .

must be the bubble effect. . .

Wait for it!!!

This is true of media with many different slants. Some are much more accurate than others. Some tend to spread conspiracies. Many are alarmist. This is especially a problem with television news. For example, how many millions of people hours have been wasted listening to alarmist news about Tropical Storm Eta, which is supposedly passing overhead at this moment. There seems to be a mild breeze. There was a little rain yesterday.

I get my weather news online from Weather Underground, which seems to be the least alarmist and the most accurate. I don’t watch television news at all. I avoid both left wing and right wing news sources, and for what is in the middle, if I see a slant in the reporting, I take it into account and DIScount it.

We have certainly seen the virus spread in groups small and large, from the motorcycle rally in Sturgis to funerals to home cooked meals for the extended family to the White House. Who knows where and when? If you went to the rally at the polo field and didn’t get sick, count your blessings. You took a risk, and you got away with it. I know too many people who have gotten sick, and some have died. I don’t want to be among that number. I’m looking forward to getting vaccinated, then trying to return to normal.

If you follow the Florida data> average new cases IN OUR ZIP CODE (32162) per week had been 20 since mid summer. After the rally the average weekly number has risen to 30 (week of October 25th) to 36 (week of November 1). We’re trending up so be very careful.
Fla data link below

Experience

New and returning people. Hopefully none died.

What is the death rate? Overall in Fl, the death rate is down.

Yes there have been several positive cases which have cancelled softball and other activities, not only from the "rallies" but also folk going outside the villages for events and returning.

This is a HIDDEN virus, you cannot see it, you may not suffer from it, but you can easily pass it on . Wearing a mask shows CARING about other folk and family getting it. So far the "I will NOT wear one attitude" has killed 240,000.A sad reflection on the folk in 2020.

Great post. The truth hurts.

Don’t know what constitutes a superspreader, BUT...there have been 239 more cases and 5 more deaths since 10/25. (The rally was 10/23) Superspreader or not, the 5 deaths may have been unavoidable. Yes, we do not know if these five people were at the rally or exposed to someone with the virus who attended the virus or got it somewhere else. Any organized event be it a protest or a rally are not a smart idea at this time. The focus here should be to contain the virus by doing SMALL things like wearing masks, social distancing and avoiding large gatherings. Rallies fall in to that last category. Plz help stem this virus...1more death or millions! Don’t be selfish.

I liken these COVID non-believers to having teenage brains. Teenagers don’t think beyond the end of their nose. They don’t think to the future. They think about what is in front of them, what gives them immediate pleasure and what they want to do. They are selfish. That is just them. Sound familiar?

The ************* online announced that tri-county area shows jump in Covid cases. So it is as expected after an event such as this.

Maybe the super spreader events are not the rallies. Maybe the supper spreader events are the fools who sit around getting hammered at the bars at places like City Fire, Red Sauce and a number of other establishments like all the country clubs that have happy hours. If and when it does hit TV this is where it will most likely start. Then you can tune into CNN and MSNBC because that is a story they will report on unlike so many of those they ignored.

Two more local residents have died of COVID-19 as the tri-county area continued to show a steady increase in cases on Wednesday.

One of the latest fatalities was from Sumter County and the other one was from Lake County. They were identified by the Florida Department of Health as:

66-year-old Lake County man who tested positive Oct. 31; and
81-year-old Sumter County man who tested positive Oct. 16.

Twenty-three new COVID-19 cases were reported Wednesday in and around The Villages. Those include:

The Villages (Sumter, Lake and Marion counties) up seven for a total of 893;
Leesburg up seven for a total of 1,527;
Lady Lake up three for a total of 408;
Belleview up three for a total of 412;
Summerfield up two for a total of 472; and
Fruitland Park up one for a total of 212.

Sumter County is now reporting 3,108 cases – an increase of 12 from Tuesday to Wednesday – among 1,763 men, 1,314 women, 14 non-residents and 17 people listed as unknown. A total of 225 cases have been reported in long-term care centers and 803 in correctional facilities. There have been 89 deaths and 300 people treated in area hospitals.

Swoop, there is a lot of truth to your post. It is sad, but it is true.