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Travelingal702 11-19-2020 10:47 AM

Remember Jane Fonda?
 
I'm sure there are many military retirees/veterans who remember Jane Fonda of the 70's and the irreparable harm she did, as HANOI JANE.

Well, I've just discovered that she is the spokesperson for GREENPEACE, an organization to which I've contributed over the years.

I've just mailed a letter requesting they remove my name from their mailing list, as I will no longer be a contributor to an organization that has a traitor as their spokesperson.

Just putting in my two cents and FYI for those interested.

Stu from NYC 11-19-2020 11:12 AM

How soon some organizations forget.

She should be spending her life in prison at hard labor

New Englander 11-19-2020 11:34 AM

Hanoi Jane should have been permanently exiled from the USA. I'm sure Vietnam would have welcomed her.

Taltarzac725 11-19-2020 01:28 PM

The Real Story Behind Jane Fonda'''s '''Hanoi Jane''' Nickname | Time

Research and then research some more.

JimJohnson 11-19-2020 01:38 PM

Jane Fonda was a true heroin to those of us in Vietnam during the conflict. Those of us that served and had sufficient gray matter to understand what she was doing for soldiers was wonderful. I love you Jane and will forever be great full for your commitment to saving young American soldiers lives.:bigbow:

Topspinmo 11-19-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1862993)
Jane Fonda was a true heroin to those of us in Vietnam during the conflict. Those of us that served and had sufficient gray matter to understand what she was doing for soldiers was wonderful. I love you Jane and will forever be great full for your commitment to saving young American soldiers lives.:bigbow:


Please name one soldier she saved?

Chi-Town 11-19-2020 02:15 PM

The Vietnam War was a tragic mistake that cost tens of thousands precious lives. Jane should have stayed out of there and filmed Barbarella II.

Fredman 11-19-2020 02:25 PM

I thought from the title it would be RIP. What a disappointment

JimJohnson 11-19-2020 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1863002)
Please name one soldier she saved?

The tens of thousands that did not go and die after Jane helped stop the conflict. Research factual sites and you will find what a wonderful Heroin Jane was.:pray:

JimJohnson 11-19-2020 02:43 PM

I must add, I am sure I know more about the Vietnam conflict than some and a whole lot more than the large majority of those giving opinions about it that are unaware of what really went on. I am a 22 year veteran of the Army, a decorated Combat Veteran and if called today would rush to be back in any conflict that my country needed me for, but I also believe we should never have been in Vietnam. The United States was wrong, and committed crimes against the people and especially children of Vietnam.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-19-2020 03:26 PM

I went to Vietnam first time in 1960 , first as a multi toured paratrooper including serving with Vietnamese Paratroop outfits , I also spent many years as a civilian including many years in Laos and Cambodia, I was lifted out of Vietnam the day before the fall . I am a firm believer that the war would have gone on much longer without the demonstrations . Guys like me knew by 66 or 67 that there was no chance of winning you go Jane this Buds for you

Stu from NYC 11-19-2020 03:38 PM

First thank you for your service.

I did not have the privilege of serving but a question.

It seems to be that the politicians who ran the war had no idea how to do so. If they left the fight to the people who were trained to do so would it have had a different outcome?

Very interesting Vietnam now is becoming a capitalist country.

There were many ways to show you disagreed with what we did. It just seems to me that was she did was treasonous giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Velvet 11-19-2020 03:56 PM

In my native country and almost anywhere else in the world a traitor would have been hung as an example, but I guess here we are more civil.

Hape2Bhr 11-19-2020 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson View Post
Jane Fonda was a true heroin to those of us in Vietnam during the conflict. Those of us that served and had sufficient gray matter to understand what she was doing for soldiers was wonderful. I love you Jane and will forever be great full for your commitment to saving young American soldiers lives.

Please name one soldier she saved?
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1863002)
Please name one soldier she saved?

I wonder if the soldier that passed her the note during a handshake feels as JJ does? She gave it to the guards. He was beaten to h_ll.

tvbound 11-19-2020 04:26 PM

The Vietnam War: A film by Ken Burns & Lynn Novick


An award winning documentary of the war, in detail.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-19-2020 04:38 PM

The answer is no , no way ever
 
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1863062)
First thank you for your service.

I did not have the privilege of serving but a question.

It seems to be that the politicians who ran the war had no idea how to do so. If they left the fight to the people who were trained to do so would it have had a different outcome?

Very interesting Vietnam now is becoming a capitalist country.

There were many ways to show you disagreed with what we did. It just seems to me that was she did was treasonous giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

to win North Vietnamese came south knowing that there only way home was victory or one of the lucky few that went home in a box

cb1972 11-19-2020 05:58 PM

Read an interesting article entitled "Shame on Jane" by Michael Benge, a former prisoner in North Vietnam. Although Jane Fonda may have thought she was doing good, there are always unintended consequences. The bottom line is it appears an American citizen was brutally tortured as a result of her visit.

valuemkt 11-19-2020 06:35 PM

she is another example of pond scum

Number 10 GI 11-19-2020 06:35 PM

I hope she spends eternity sitting on the hard iron seat of an anti-aircraft gun.

Topspinmo 11-19-2020 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1863041)
The tens of thousands that did not go and die after Jane helped stop the conflict. Research factual sites and you will find what a wonderful Heroin Jane was.:pray:

I’m waiting for name that she saved?

manaboutown 11-19-2020 07:12 PM

Hanoi Jane should have been hanged as a traitor.

Topspinmo 11-19-2020 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1863043)
I must add, I am sure I know more about the Vietnam conflict than some and a whole lot more than the large majority of those giving opinions about it that are unaware of what really went on. I am a 22 year veteran of the Army, a decorated Combat Veteran and if called today would rush to be back in any conflict that my country needed me for, but I also believe we should never have been in Vietnam. The United States was wrong, and committed crimes against the people and especially children of Vietnam.


Not the only one served during VN conflict. I agree Never should been in VN, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Wasn’t most those crimes the field army at lower level? Or are you saying they got approval to commit crimes? If so, you can blame people in charge of the United State’s at time.

tophcfa 11-19-2020 09:28 PM

Jane used to represent the extreme far left. With all the moonbats out there these days she would be considered a moderate in her party. Very sad.

Fredman 11-19-2020 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1863041)
The tens of thousands that did not go and die after Jane helped stop the conflict. Research factual sites and you will find what a wonderful Heroin Jane was.:pray:

Please tell me exactly what she did to help stop the conflict, other than hang out with the enemy and get a soldier tortured

Stu from NYC 11-19-2020 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1863167)
Please tell me exactly what she did to help stop the conflict, other than hang out with the enemy and get a soldier tortured

To me that was inexcusable and her citizenship should have been revoked while she spent the rest of her life in hard labor.

Lots of people protested the war without giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Velvet 11-19-2020 10:50 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Jane 1972:

JimJohnson 11-20-2020 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1863059)
I went to Vietnam first time in 1960 , first as a multi toured paratrooper including serving with Vietnamese Paratroop outfits , I also spent many years as a civilian including many years in Laos and Cambodia, I was lifted out of Vietnam the day before the fall . I am a firm believer that the war would have gone on much longer without the demonstrations . Guys like me knew by 66 or 67 that there was no chance of winning you go Jane this Buds for you

100% agree.
Vietnam 67-68

JimJohnson 11-20-2020 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1863136)
I’m waiting for name that she saved?

Mine!! I was scheduled to go back in 1975. Do to the heroic efforts of Jane Fonda and thousands of other protesters the final Americans were pulled out by 30 April 1975.

Thank you Jane for not choosing to dodge your service to the problem in Vietnam. :bigbow:

JimJohnson 11-20-2020 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredman (Post 1863167)
Please tell me exactly what she did to help stop the conflict, other than hang out with the enemy and get a soldier tortured

She brought national attention to the horrors being committed by us to the living rooms of Americans and it helped to put pressure on the US to leave their country.

Torturing anyone is horrible, but worse is 55,000 Americans died over there while we collectively did nothing.

1 Tortured vs 55,000 DEAD.

Arlington123 11-20-2020 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1862993)
Jane Fonda was a true heroin to those of us in Vietnam during the conflict. Those of us that served and had sufficient gray matter to understand what she was doing for soldiers was wonderful. I love you Jane and will forever be great full for your commitment to saving young American soldiers lives.:bigbow:

“Loved” “What she did was wonderful”. You have got to be kidding me. I don’t believe you are a NAM combat vet, you must be an imposter or bleeding heart liberal. There is no one more universally hated by Vietnam vets than Jane Fonda.

Regardless of your opinion of our participation in that war, Men were dying, maimed, and taken prisoner and tortured. All while she was in Hanoi being used as propaganda spokesperson by Vietnam. History will show that she is a traitor of the worst possible kind. Don’t buy this hype folks, this opinion is in the minority of Vietnam vets. USMC Vietnam 69-70.

Fairway Cruises 11-20-2020 06:13 AM

GreenPeace is not what it was
 
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Originally Posted by Travelingal702 (Post 1862907)
I'm sure there are many military retirees/veterans who remember Jane Fonda of the 70's and the irreparable harm she did, as HANOI JANE.

Well, I've just discovered that she is the spokesperson for GREENPEACE, an organization to which I've contributed over the years.

I've just mailed a letter requesting they remove my name from their mailing list, as I will no longer be a contributor to an organization that has a traitor as their spokesperson.

Just putting in my two cents and FYI for those interested.

Greepeace did a complete 180 years ago. It's not the organization it once was, far from it. The co founder left some years ago as they went in a left leaning direction and their agenda's changed. Dr Patrick Moore is well worth paying attention to. Catch him on youtube. Just tap in patrick moore huckerbee and watch the interview!

Girlcopper 11-20-2020 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelingal702 (Post 1862907)
I'm sure there are many military retirees/veterans who remember Jane Fonda of the 70's and the irreparable harm she did, as HANOI JANE.

Well, I've just discovered that she is the spokesperson for GREENPEACE, an organization to which I've contributed over the years.

I've just mailed a letter requesting they remove my name from their mailing list, as I will no longer be a contributor to an organization that has a traitor as their spokesperson.

Just putting in my two cents and FYI for those interested.

Greenpeace is no better than Jane. They deserve each other

Worldseries27 11-20-2020 06:21 AM

Jane" tokyo rose" fonda
 
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Originally Posted by jimjohnson (Post 1862993)
jane fonda was a true heroin to those of us in vietnam during the conflict. Those of us that served and had sufficient gray matter to understand what she was doing for soldiers was wonderful. I love you jane and will forever be great full for your commitment to saving young american soldiers lives.:bigbow:

jane fonda's goal was to help sap the will of the american forces fighting in vietnam. She was encouraging our soldiers not to fight and disobey orders received from their officers. She was giving aid and comfort to the enemy
similar to california born tokyo rose who did the same to our soldiers, pilots, and sailors.
Tokyo rose was fined and convicted for treason and spent 10 years in prison and jane fonda escaped punishment

Annie66 11-20-2020 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 1863080)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimJohnson View Post
Jane Fonda was a true heroin to those of us in Vietnam during the conflict. Those of us that served and had sufficient gray matter to understand what she was doing for soldiers was wonderful. I love you Jane and will forever be great full for your commitment to saving young American soldiers lives.

Please name one soldier she saved?

I wonder if the soldier that passed her the note during a handshake feels as JJ does? She gave it to the guards. He was beaten to h_ll.

I know that Naval Aviator that passed the note. Following the incident, he wound up having both of his arms broken by his captors along with other injuries. I worked for him in London. I was one of his aides. On my first day at the HQ, I was advised by a friend that there were 2 words never to utter in his presence. I guess you can figure out what they were.

Stu from NYC 11-20-2020 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 1863210)
I know that Naval Aviator that passed the note. Following the incident, he wound up having both of his arms broken by his captors along with other injuries. I worked for him in London. I was one of his aides. On my first day at the HQ, I was advised by a friend that there were 2 words never to utter in his presence. I guess you can figure out what they were.

Thank you so much for sharing.

camaguey48 11-20-2020 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1862993)
Jane Fonda was a true heroin to those of us in Vietnam during the conflict. Those of us that served and had sufficient gray matter to understand what she was doing for soldiers was wonderful. I love you Jane and will forever be great full for your commitment to saving young American soldiers lives.:bigbow:

Is that so? A true heroine (not heroin as that is a dangerous drug). This person, for lack of a much worse word, was and still is a disgrace to millions of American soldiers and their families. She should have stayed there and become their spokesperson, just like Tokyo Rose did for the Japanese. A godless person.

La lamy 11-20-2020 06:39 AM

I have to admit I didn't know about "Hanoi Jane" so I researched it and found out she never meant to disrespect any Americans and apologized many times for the unfortunate picture that she mistakenly got involved with. Doesn't she deserve to be forgiven? We all make stupid mistakes.
“It happened on my last day in Hanoi…The translator told me that the soldiers wanted to sing me a song… The soldiers asked me to sing for them in return…I memorized a song called Day Ma Di, written by anti-war South Vietnamese students. I knew I was slaughtering it, but everyone seemed delighted that I was making the attempt. I finished. Everyone was laughing and clapping, including me… someone (I don’t remember who) led me towards the gun, and I sat down, still laughing, still applauding. It all had nothing to do with where I was sitting. I hardly even thought about where I was sitting. The cameras flashed…

It is possible that it was a set up, that the Vietnamese had it all planned. I will never know. But if they did I can’t blame them. The buck stops here. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. It was my mistake and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it… I have apologized numerous times for any pain I may have caused servicemen and their families because of this photograph. It was never my intention to cause harm.”

vanjon 11-20-2020 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1863182)
To me that was inexcusable and her citizenship should have been revoked while she spent the rest of her life in hard labor.

Lots of people protested the war without giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

I am Vietnamese and I totally agree with you. Her action and picture of seat an anti-aircraft gun will be forever in our mind as a traitor, the communist using those as a weapon, we lost our country, our home and grateful to settle in the country with freedom as America. Don't stay in this country and support what you do not know, look at million people die on the sea just try to get out of communist. Shame on her, I wish to have a chance to face her

WesMan 11-20-2020 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Travelingal702 (Post 1862907)
I'm sure there are many military retirees/veterans who remember Jane Fonda of the 70's and the irreparable harm she did, as HANOI JANE.

Well, I've just discovered that she is the spokesperson for GREENPEACE, an organization to which I've contributed over the years.

I've just mailed a letter requesting they remove my name from their mailing list, as I will no longer be a contributor to an organization that has a traitor as their spokesperson.

Just putting in my two cents and FYI for those interested.

Thanks!!! She is no good!!!!!!!

Dahabs 11-20-2020 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1863062)
First thank you for your service.


There were many ways to show you disagreed with what we did. It just seems to me that was she did was treasonous giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

Many share your opinion but is this really what she was doing or was she exposing the failed policies of of bad leadership? Is blindly following (and keeping quiet) about bad and sometimes immoral policies always the right thing to do? Reminds me of Mark Twain's quote "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it". Many are way too quick to equate country with government.


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