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wjmano 12-28-2020 08:56 PM

Ivermectin to Prevent COVID Transmission
 
Does anyone know any doctors in our area willing to prescribe ivermectin for the prevention of Covid? Studies have shown this safe, inexpensive drug to be quite effective for both prophylaxis and treatment purposes. I can share the research with anyone interested.

bandsdavis 12-28-2020 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wjmano (Post 1878904)
Does anyone know any doctors in our area willing to prescribe ivermectin for the prevention of Covid? Studies have shown this safe, inexpensive drug to be quite effective for both prophylaxis and treatment purposes. I can share the research with anyone interested.

Per the CDC, The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in a clinical trial (AIII).

Malsua 12-29-2020 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bandsdavis (Post 1878908)
Per the CDC, The COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in a clinical trial (AIII).

The CDC also recommended against the use of Corticosteriods to treat covid until they didn't. The guidance from the CDC on Ivermectin is dated to late August and is woefully out of date.

PugMom 12-29-2020 08:10 AM

there's something odd about using a pet de-wormer for a virus. i've not seen how it works. can you share the info you have?

Malsua 12-29-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1879030)
there's something odd about using a pet de-wormer for a virus. i've not seen how it works. can you share the info you have?

It has strong anti-viral properties.

Start here: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...f-COVID-19.pdf

PugMom 12-29-2020 09:11 AM

:coolsmiley: thx!

wjmano 12-29-2020 11:46 AM

The effectiveness is well documented. The link provided by Malusa is the full report. Here's a one-page summary from the same source.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...n-COVID-19.pdf

Dana1963 12-29-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wjmano (Post 1878904)
Does anyone know any doctors in our area willing to prescribe ivermectin for the prevention of Covid? Studies have shown this safe, inexpensive drug to be quite effective for both prophylaxis and treatment purposes. I can share the research with anyone interested.

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wjmano 12-29-2020 02:01 PM

In addition to this full report, here's a one-page summary from the same source:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...n-COVID-19.pdf

foxmeadow 12-29-2020 03:20 PM

Ivermectin
 
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Originally Posted by wjmano (Post 1878904)
Does anyone know any doctors in our area willing to prescribe ivermectin for the prevention of Covid? Studies have shown this safe, inexpensive drug to be quite effective for both prophylaxis and treatment purposes. I can share the research with anyone interested.

I used to use it to prevent worms (or kill them) in my horses. Didn’t know it might prevent human virus.

Scott O 12-30-2020 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1879030)
there's something odd about using a pet de-wormer for a virus. i've not seen how it works. can you share the info you have?

It’s not just a pet deworming drug...it’s been used on humans for years...smh

Scott O 12-30-2020 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wjmano (Post 1878904)
Does anyone know any doctors in our area willing to prescribe ivermectin for the prevention of Covid? Studies have shown this safe, inexpensive drug to be quite effective for both prophylaxis and treatment purposes. I can share the research with anyone interested.

Yes, along with a Z pak, and steroids it was given to a friend who went to the Trailwinds stand alone ER down by the new Lowe’s in Wildwood, and they did very well on the treatment...I also have a Nurse case manager who recommends the treatment, many of her cases have been treated with it and are doing well...The CDC guidelines are a joke...no updates and I could care less about their political views, that’s all they are..just like Fauci...

woderfulwendy1 12-30-2020 07:28 AM

Don't forget to take vitamin D and Zinc with it. It is used as a proprolatic also. Google, where to buy Ivermectin. They use it in India. There cases are high but there hospitalizations and death are low.

Foxmd 12-30-2020 07:29 AM

Twitter reports positive cases
 
There are people on Twitter reporting favorable data for Ivermectin. There are obervational studies but not controlled double blind studies needed to prove it is effective. It likely would not hurt you as a last resort.

agnesd 12-30-2020 07:34 AM

My sister told me about this treatment and that's what I told her --- I give that to my dog for worms LOL!!

greenflash245 12-30-2020 08:02 AM

sounds like it. is snake oil

Scott O 12-30-2020 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by greenflash245 (Post 1879554)
sounds like it. is snake oil

Yeah that’s why ER Doctors are prescribing it...

Bonnevie 12-30-2020 08:10 AM

good grief, next thing that happens is that people will start using their dogs medicine. just like hydroxychloroquine, there needs to be more robust studies done. as a pharmacist I was always amazed at people who were concerned about the side effects of their prescribed medication but were taking multiple herbal supplements that weren't regulated or standardized.

kcal63 12-30-2020 08:11 AM

While ivermectin seems to help reduce viral load in patients, it has not been shown to have any prophylactic properties, thus far, and should probably only be used after infection is confirmed. For general prophylaxis purposes melatonin, zinc and vitamins b1 and C are known to be safe and anecdotally seem to reduce infection rates. (Latest study on melatonin found that among some sub groups those taking it had a 28% lower infection rate when other factors are accounted for.)

Malsua 12-30-2020 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by greenflash245 (Post 1879554)
sounds like it. is snake oil

Read the link I posted above. Don't just browse it. Read it. There are randomized controlled trials. It's all there in detail with references.

These are some of the best clinicians in the world who are recommending it. This is a group of doctors who have more peer reviewed papers papers than _ANYONE_ on critical care.

NotGolfer 12-30-2020 08:18 AM

I think there is a human form of ivermectin (pills). I've read it has shown good results. On another note in cream form without an RX it can be used for rosacea. I've used it for that issue. Big Pharma would rather use expensive meds....my opinion...that fits a different narrative.

Redsmom 12-30-2020 08:21 AM

Just checked there, and they don’t seem to have it. Did I miss something?

Malsua 12-30-2020 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kcal63 (Post 1879565)
While ivermectin seems to help reduce viral load in patients, it has not been shown to have any prophylactic properties, thus far, and should probably only be used after infection is confirmed. For general prophylaxis purposes melatonin, zinc and vitamins b1 and C are known to be safe and anecdotally seem to reduce infection rates. (Latest study on melatonin found that among some sub groups those taking it had a 28% lower infection rate when other factors are accounted for.)

Yes, it has indeed been shown to have prophylaxis.

Start at page 7: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...f-COVID-19.pdf

>>>Exposure prophylaxis studies of ivermectin’s ability to prevent transmission of COVID-19 Data is also now available showing large and statistically significant decreases in the transmission of COVID-19 among human subjects based on data from fourrandomized controlled trials (RCT) and three observational controlled trials (OCT) with fourof the seven(two of themRCT’s) published in peer-reviewed journals (Behera et al., 2020;Bernigaud et al., 2020;Carvallo et al., 2020b;Elgazzar et al., 2020;Hellwig and Maia, 2020;Shouman, 2020)<<

cherylncliff 12-30-2020 08:49 AM

Ivermectin
 
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Originally Posted by wjmano (Post 1878904)
Does anyone know any doctors in our area willing to prescribe ivermectin for the prevention of Covid? Studies have shown this safe, inexpensive drug to be quite effective for both prophylaxis and treatment purposes. I can share the research with anyone interested.


There is no evidence to suggest ivermectin(an antiparasitic) is effective to prevent or treat Covid 19 in humans. While it does prevent viral replication in test tubes, as do many things like bleach and lysol, the few non-controlled studies do not show efficacy due to flaws in the studies.

COVID-19 Update: Ivermectin - REBEL EM - Emergency Medicine Blog

FDA warning: Ivermectin meant for animals are not for human treatment for COVID-19

msimon2310 12-30-2020 09:00 AM

Yeah, go ahead, take some of this stuff snd then throw away your mask. You’ll be safe !!!

Tripsite 12-30-2020 09:03 AM

Ivermectin
 
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Originally Posted by wjmano (Post 1878904)
Does anyone know any doctors in our area willing to prescribe ivermectin for the prevention of Covid? Studies have shown this safe, inexpensive drug to be quite effective for both prophylaxis and treatment purposes. I can share the research with anyone interested.

Ivermectin is used in the cattle industry and is “over the counter”. A veterinarian can tell you all about it is my guess.

donassaid 12-30-2020 09:15 AM

They also recommended against the use of hydroxochloroquine even tho hundreds of actual "practicing" physicians all over this country used it successfully with their patients with nearly 100% recovery. Interestingly, the AMA finally came out a week ago and said that it could be an effective treatment for Covid. I wonder how many of the hundreds of thousands of lives who perished from the virus could have been saved by a safe, low cost drug like hydroxochloroquine if it had not been politicized.

merrymini 12-30-2020 09:17 AM

There must not be an economic windfall.

Bonnevie 12-30-2020 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 1879641)
They also recommended against the use of hydroxochloroquine even tho hundreds of actual "practicing" physicians all over this country used it successfully with their patients with nearly 100% recovery. Interestingly, the AMA finally came out a week ago and said that it could be an effective treatment for Covid. I wonder how many of the hundreds of thousands of lives who perished from the virus could have been saved by a safe, low cost drug like hydroxochloroquine if it had not been politicized.

just because Rush Limbaugh says something doesn't mean it's true. please fact check.

Limbaugh accused the AMA of "knowingly lying about hydroxychloroquine." But as the Poynter Institute reported, the AMA never retracted its statement on the drug. The Published Reporter and other websites that spread similar claims have walked back their reports, and the AMA addressed the matter on Twitter.

Bonnevie 12-30-2020 09:32 AM

Some of the side-effects that may be associated with ivermectin include skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events (dizziness, seizures, confusion), sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury (hepatitis). Laboratory test abnormalities include decrease in white cell count and elevated liver tests.

kenoc7 12-30-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1879484)
Yes, along with a Z pak, and steroids it was given to a friend who went to the Trailwinds stand alone ER down by the new Lowe’s in Wildwood, and they did very well on the treatment...I also have a Nurse case manager who recommends the treatment, many of her cases have been treated with it and are doing well...The CDC guidelines are a joke...no updates and I could care less about their political views, that’s all they are..just like Fauci...

This is may be the most wrong-headed, i.e. stupid, post ever here. The CDC is a scientific organization and Fauci is a scientist. Anyone wuo thinks they are political and doesn't follow their advice IMO is an idiot.

RICH1 12-30-2020 09:42 AM

Stop with the snake oil boloney

airstreamingypsy 12-30-2020 09:46 AM

If you plan to go buy ivermectin to self medicate, know that it will kill some Collie breeds if they have a certain gene. Collies, Shelties, Aussies..... to name a few can carry the MDR1 gene and ivermectin will kill them. Don't leave it where your dog can get at it, if you have a Collie breed.

mikemalloy 12-30-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wjmano (Post 1878904)
Does anyone know any doctors in our area willing to prescribe ivermectin for the prevention of Covid? Studies have shown this safe, inexpensive drug to be quite effective for both prophylaxis and treatment purposes. I can share the research with anyone interested.

I'm posting this site without further comment except I've read reports on the drug and am expecting a delivery next week.
Canadian Pharmacy:

La lamy 12-30-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wjmano (Post 1879266)
In addition to this full report, here's a one-page summary from the same source:
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...n-COVID-19.pdf

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

PugMom 12-30-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonnevie (Post 1879661)
just because Rush Limbaugh says something doesn't mean it's true. please fact check.

Limbaugh accused the AMA of "knowingly lying about hydroxychloroquine." But as the Poynter Institute reported, the AMA never retracted its statement on the drug. The Published Reporter and other websites that spread similar claims have walked back their reports, and the AMA addressed the matter on Twitter.

i listen to the Man everyday &have no recollection of him saying anything like that. am trying to remember such a day & show....

PugMom 12-30-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Malsua (Post 1879046)
It has strong anti-viral properties.

Start here: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...f-COVID-19.pdf

i spent a good time of the afternoon reading their info, some of it is really interesting & i thank u again for sharing.

PugMom 12-30-2020 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by woderfulwendy1 (Post 1879531)
Don't forget to take vitamin D and Zinc with it. It is used as a proprolatic also. Google, where to buy Ivermectin. They use it in India. There cases are high but there hospitalizations and death are low.

i saw that too. then there's yet another study that says to add magnesium & b-complex. according to that study they claim people who took these supplements were less likely to get sick

Bonnevie 12-30-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1879713)
i listen to the Man everyday &have no recollection of him saying anything like that. am trying to remember such a day & show....

well, then, what was your source? because when I searched for AMA hydroxychloroquine changed stance all I got was reference to Rush Limbaugh saying it

Dana1963 12-30-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 1879713)
i listen to the Man everyday &have no recollection of him saying anything like that. am trying to remember such a day & show....

December 15th Fact-check: Does the American Medical Association now support hydroxychloroquine?
I have switched to Newsmax, Infowars and OANN.


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