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coffeebean 12-29-2020 06:53 AM

VIDEO - Covid-19 Masks and Myths DEBUNKED
 
COVID-19 & Mask Myths DEBUNKED! - YouTube

In case you did not see the original video by this person, here it is......
How Well Do Masks Work? (Schlieren Imaging In Slow Motion!) - YouTube

Garwood1 12-29-2020 06:54 AM

I believe my physician, not a you tube video

TedfromGA 12-29-2020 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Garwood1 (Post 1878967)
I believe my physician, not a you tube video

Watch the video. It is spot on correct and said in layman language. If you do just a little research on the size of the virus particle and the size of water droplets you can understand how a mask helps.

Lindsyburnsy 12-29-2020 09:16 AM

If your physician isn't telling you to wear a mask, then I'd change doctors!

coffeebean 12-29-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Garwood1 (Post 1878967)
I believe my physician, not a you tube video

Don't always believe everything your physician tells you. I had a discussion with a physician (or so he claimed he was) just the other day and he said he does not mandate his employees wear masks in the three offices he has. I discounted every single thing he said after that. Discussion was over for me.

Gpsma 12-29-2020 04:12 PM

And look how well masks have worked already.

billethkid 12-29-2020 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1879320)
And look how well masks have worked already.


How can you tell?

Maybe they should be reporting with and without mask infection data....with and without masks new cases.....with and without masks death rate....

(Just kidding (I think).:duck:

billethkid 12-29-2020 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1879320)
And look how well masks have worked already.


How can you tell?

Maybe they should be reporting with and without mask infection data....with and without masks new cases.....with and without masks death rate....

Just kidding (I think).:duck:

roscoguy 12-29-2020 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1878966)
COVID-19 & Mask Myths DEBUNKED! - YouTube

In case you did not see the original video by this person, here it is......
How Well Do Masks Work? (Schlieren Imaging In Slow Motion!) - YouTube

Great video, thanks for sharing it! It's a shame that most people will probably never see it and an even bigger shame that too many that do see it still won't believe it.

xkeowner 12-29-2020 09:41 PM

The Rest of the Story
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1878966)
COVID-19 & Mask Myths DEBUNKED! - YouTube

In case you did not see the original video by this person, here it is......
How Well Do Masks Work? (Schlieren Imaging In Slow Motion!) - YouTube

So a mask will stop the droplets either outbound or inbound - FACT.

What happens to that droplet? It immediately is absorbed and breaks down into its component parts releasing to COVID contained within so the very next breath either in or out can, and probably will, spread the virus. The mask may somewhat limit the range the virus travels outbound but if it is on your mask and you inhale it will likely enter your lungs.

I am not trying to cause paranoia simply make people aware that social distancing is probably more important than wearing a mask.

Tblue 12-29-2020 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1879436)
So a mask will stop the droplets either outbound or inbound - FACT.

What happens to that droplet? It immediately is absorbed and breaks down into its component parts releasing to COVID contained within so the very next breath either in or out can, and probably will, spread the virus. The mask may somewhat limit the range the virus travels outbound but if it is on your mask and you inhale it will likely enter your lungs.

I am not trying to cause paranoia simply make people aware that social distancing is probably more important than wearing a mask.

Do we know how much of the virus is attached to droplets? Maybe half, maybe 70% maybe 10%. I have worn a mask for 37 years, it does not make me an expert, but I can tell you at times I had to place some tape over the mask at the bridge of my nose to prevent my glasses from fogging up when I would breath. So if some of the virus does attached to droplets then how much is just exhaled around the top of the mask, both sides of the mask, or bottom of the mask. Maybe some of the virus is trapped in the mask as you said, a very good thing, but everyone fiddles with the mask and reuses the mask. Watch anyone at Lowes, as they walk in, out comes the mask from their pocket or purse. When they walk out usually off comes the mask, back into the pocket or purse or the console of the car, to be reused. Has anyone given any thought that just maybe masks are helping to spread this virus? The answer is yes, some researchers have looked at that, and suggest maybe the masks are spreading the virus. Sorry I do not have it at hand. Look it up yourself. One last question that was proposed to me, if masks work then why are there not proper places to dispose of a used masks?

Taltarzac725 12-29-2020 10:22 PM

Answering your most common mask related questions during COVID-19 | Novant Health | Healthy Headlines

I like advice from professionals.

Scott O 12-30-2020 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1879320)
And look how well masks have worked already.

Yeah especially for California and New York, along with quarantines...they are now the biggest hotspots...yup...smdh

Scott O 12-30-2020 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1879436)
So a mask will stop the droplets either outbound or inbound - FACT.

What happens to that droplet? It immediately is absorbed and breaks down into its component parts releasing to COVID contained within so the very next breath either in or out can, and probably will, spread the virus. The mask may somewhat limit the range the virus travels outbound but if it is on your mask and you inhale it will likely enter your lungs.

I am not trying to cause paranoia simply make people aware that social distancing is probably more important than wearing a mask.

Absolutely, and breathing in fresh air and not your own CO2 all day...I saw 2 people again yesterday driving around alone in their cars with masks and gloves on....wth....insanity...

coffeebean 12-30-2020 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1879320)
And look how well masks have worked already.

The reason for that is the massive NON COMPLIANCE of anti-maskers. Look at the big picture. Our bubble of The Villages is not a good example of the compliance of mask wearing. We in The Villages are a population of seniors so the compliance for mask wearing seems to be better than the rest of our country.

coffeebean 12-30-2020 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1879436)
So a mask will stop the droplets either outbound or inbound - FACT.

What happens to that droplet? It immediately is absorbed and breaks down into its component parts releasing to COVID contained within so the very next breath either in or out can, and probably will, spread the virus. The mask may somewhat limit the range the virus travels outbound but if it is on your mask and you inhale it will likely enter your lungs.

I am not trying to cause paranoia simply make people aware that social distancing is probably more important than wearing a mask.


Do you have a link proving that this actually does happen? Think about it....if this WERE true, our country would have millions of people infected with this virus, not to mention the amount of infected in the rest of the world. IMHO, that is just not feasible. Doesn't it make more sense that once the virus lands on any surface, even fabric, that the virus no longer travels, especially into your respiratory system?

Girlcopper 12-30-2020 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1878966)
COVID-19 & Mask Myths DEBUNKED! - YouTube

In case you did not see the original video by this person, here it is......
How Well Do Masks Work? (Schlieren Imaging In Slow Motion!) - YouTube

I think this debate about masks has been beaten to death. Have your own opinion. Dont shove it off on everyone. Wear a mask if that is your desire and stay away from people or places where they arent worn. If you decide to not wear a mask, expect to be banned from numerous stores and businesses. Simple. Make your choice and live with the consequences. But lets move on in life and end the debate! Its old news!!

coffeebean 12-30-2020 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1879498)
I think this debate about masks has been beaten to death. Have your own opinion. Dont shove it off on everyone. Wear a mask if that is your desire and stay away from people or places where they arent worn. If you decide to not wear a mask, expect to be banned from numerous stores and businesses. Simple. Make your choice and live with the consequences. But lets move on in life and end the debate! Its old news!!

Not everyone has seen these two videos. And NO, this debate will never end until this pandemic ends.

tvbound 12-30-2020 06:44 AM

As has been shown with so many other subjects, there will be a core of people who will never be swayed by, and are actually allergic, to facts and the truth.

crash 12-30-2020 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1879320)
And look how well masks have worked already.

And look how many don’t wear masks. You need everyone doing it.

kannon 12-30-2020 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1879486)
Yeah especially for California and New York, along with quarantines...they are now the biggest hotspots...yup...smdh

NY is not a hotspot. CA is. Any guesstimate of outbreak if no masks, no quarantine, no capacity limits were in place? My guess is they be in a lot worst shape.

tvbound 12-30-2020 07:32 AM

Louisiana congressman-elect dies of Covid

This guy's family no longer think it is a hoax or harmless.

PJackpot 12-30-2020 07:35 AM

This guy never references any studies or experts to support his "theories". He's nothing more than a layman trying to interpret something he knows nothing about. Here's an idea. Try reading something written by actual world renowned microbiologists, immunologists and infection disease specialists. I think they have more to offer than this buffoon.

Amazon.com

Blackbird45 12-30-2020 08:07 AM

I don't understand why the issues of masks keep coming up.
If all the hype is false and masks are only 1% effective that is enough for me.
My life and that of my wife is not worth the risk to prove a point.

Eg_cruz 12-30-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott O (Post 1879487)
Absolutely, and breathing in fresh air and not your own CO2 all day...I saw 2 people again yesterday driving around alone in their cars with masks and gloves on....wth....insanity...

So I thought the same thing until my sister explained why she sometimes wears a mask in her car when she’s alone (yes she feels silly) my sister is a teacher, our mom needed to be driven weekly to PT appointment and because my sister works full time when she would pick up mom they would wear mask in the car together. Then my sister got to thinking if I drive 20 minutes to mom house then she get in the car mom is breathing in my sisters air. So my sister now wears her mask on the way to moms house. So you don’t know why someone is wearing a mask, yes I told you both are wear in the car at the same time. She again said but my germs are still in the air and she felt better safe then sorry, moms 85 and dad is 90 so being overly careful makes since......and I have to agree

Scott O 12-30-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kannon (Post 1879525)
NY is not a hotspot. CA is. Any guesstimate of outbreak if no masks, no quarantine, no capacity limits were in place? My guess is they be in a lot worst shape.

Oh you mean like Florida? The state that hasn’t imposed or forced laws on us and we’re doing ok, especially considering it’s the largest population of seniors....yes NY is considered a hotspot again, why do you think they are shutting everything down again...

Scott O 12-30-2020 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Eg_cruz (Post 1879564)
So I thought the same thing until my sister explained why she sometimes wears a mask in her car when she’s alone (yes she feels silly) my sister is a teacher, our mom needed to be driven weekly to PT appointment and because my sister works full time when she would pick up mom they would wear mask in the car together. Then my sister got to thinking if I drive 20 minutes to mom house then she get in the car mom is breathing in my sisters air. So my sister now wears her mask on the way to moms house. So you don’t know why someone is wearing a mask, yes I told you both are wear in the car at the same time. She again said but my germs are still in the air and she felt better safe then sorry, moms 85 and dad is 90 so being overly careful makes since......and I have to agree

Roll down the window and breathe ...good grief

Eg_cruz 12-30-2020 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1878966)
COVID-19 & Mask Myths DEBUNKED! - YouTube

In case you did not see the original video by this person, here it is......
How Well Do Masks Work? (Schlieren Imaging In Slow Motion!) - YouTube

Thank you for the share. I have to say I was very hesitant about watching because I so over the mask talk but this guy explains it very well and keeps it to a matter of fact.
Thanks again and going to share

Jokomo 12-30-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1879380)
How can you tell?

Maybe they should be reporting with and without mask infection data....with and without masks new cases.....with and without masks death rate....

(Just kidding (I think).:duck:

I agree with your reporting categories. Not kidding! I suggest supplies of vaccines be allocated first to those of us who wore masks, and took the pandemic seriously, and did our part to stop the spread. For those who grocery shopped or attended spreader events without masks, go to the end of the line.

donassaid 12-30-2020 09:08 AM

Would love to know this guy's credentials and sources. Would also love his answer to how an airborne virus cannot enter your bloodstream thru your eyes and ears. I find it a bit humorous that those who adamantly demand mask wearing by everyone feel it is ok to take theirs off while sharing a table at a public restaurant. Apparently they believe that the virus takes a break while they are eating and drinking. It also seems to not be present at massive "social injustice" gatherings and at parties and dinners attended by autocratic Governors. I just wish there was as much concern for those in Nursing homes being prevented from personal visits and hugs from family members; business owners whose businesses have been designated "non-essential; school children unable to have a normal childhood with social interaction and parents unable to go to work because their kids can't go to school. There is also no mention of the increases in drug abuse, overdoses, depression, and suicides brought on by this "isolation", as well as the increased risks to those who have had to put off needed treatments and surgeries that have put their health and their very lives at increased risk. The "cure" cannot be worse than the disease and you cannot destroy the lives of tge 99% financially, physically, psychologically and spiritually for the sake of the 1%.

FromNY 12-30-2020 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1879251)
Don't always believe everything your physician tells you. I had a discussion with a physician (or so he claimed he was) just the other day and he said he does not mandate his employees wear masks in the three offices he has. I discounted every single thing he said after that. Discussion was over for me.

Know a few employees in Doctor office who got Covid , maskless!

FromNY 12-30-2020 09:22 AM

Know a few employees in Doctor office who got Covid , maskless!

roscoguy 12-30-2020 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by xkeowner (Post 1879436)
What happens to that droplet? It immediately is absorbed and breaks down into its component parts releasing to COVID contained within so the very next breath either in or out can, and probably will, spread the virus. The mask may somewhat limit the range the virus travels outbound but if it is on your mask and you inhale it will likely enter your lungs.

By extension of this 'theory', all those surgeons are being silly by wearing a mask in the OR: every little virus particle or bacteria is only waiting for one more breath to free them from the mask so that they can leap right into that open wound or chest cavity.

kenoc7 12-30-2020 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1879500)
Not everyone has seen these two videos. And NO, this debate will never end until this pandemic ends.

It shouldn't even be a debate. In indoor public spaces wear the damn mask.

RICH1 12-30-2020 09:41 AM

They have ! Ignorance is no excuse

toeser 12-30-2020 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1878966)
COVID-19 & Mask Myths DEBUNKED! - YouTube

In case you did not see the original video by this person, here it is......
How Well Do Masks Work? (Schlieren Imaging In Slow Motion!) - YouTube

Good link. I hope all doubters watch this.

RICH1 12-30-2020 10:11 AM

Recognizing death from Covid19 is a First step..,, masks are not the cure all but assist in prevention

coffeebean 12-30-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crash (Post 1879518)
And look how many don’t wear masks. You need everyone doing it.

Yes, the word "compliance" comes to mind. Americans like to "buck" the system, therefore, compliance in our country is dreadful.

newgirl 12-30-2020 10:27 AM

And this is why we have the highest death rate in the world. Amazing how far people will go to find other stupid people to agree with them about anything..again, look at all the cults, hell Hitler still has a huge following...j

coffeebean 12-30-2020 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PJackpot (Post 1879538)
This guy never references any studies or experts to support his "theories". He's nothing more than a layman trying to interpret something he knows nothing about. Here's an idea. Try reading something written by actual world renowned microbiologists, immunologists and infection disease specialists. I think they have more to offer than this buffoon.

Amazon.com

Do you think Dr. Fauci is also a "buffoon"? He supports everything that is said in both of these videos. Actually, that is what the science is all about.


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