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Skip 02-03-2021 08:14 PM

Seniors First?
 
Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip

JoMar 02-03-2021 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 1897016)
Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip

Many other places to get it without all those restrictions.....:)

asianthree 02-03-2021 09:30 PM

Those who are exposed to the public, who have to work to feed their families, can go first.

I am happy for those who are chasing the vaccine, spending days on every mobile device, and traveling hours to get their dose.

Haven’t changed much since last March, no worries on, or if vaccine will be available. Life is still good.

Neils 02-03-2021 10:49 PM

The rules you listed are federal program guidelines.
If you go one of the Florida or county operated sites, I think they are still keeping the priority to 65+ and healthcare workers

kathyspear 02-03-2021 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 1897016)
AND I must reveal my race on that form. Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?
Skip

Forms that ask for race/ethnicity usually have a "DECLINE TO ANSWER" option. I noticed that the forms I printed out for my 2nd Pfizer shot in Lake County do not have such an option. I usually check DECLINE, not because I care if people know my race but because that info is being collected at the request of the feds and I don't think like that the govt collects such info and connects everything to race.

The vax form does allow you to check UNKNOWN if you don't know your race. I wonder how many people select that box.

kathy

golfing eagles 02-04-2021 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1897049)
Forms that ask for race/ethnicity usually have a "DECLINE TO ANSWER" option. I noticed that the forms I printed out for my 2nd Pfizer shot in Lake County do not have such an option. I usually check DECLINE, not because I care if people know my race but because that info is being collected at the request of the feds and I don't think like that the govt collects such info and connects everything to race.

The vax form does allow you to check UNKNOWN if you don't know your race. I wonder how many people select that box.

kathy

I usually write in Vulcan or Romulan depending on my mood, but Wookie is just as acceptable:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Two Bills 02-04-2021 05:08 AM

Pomosexual is a good choice when writing what sex you are.
Gives them something to look up.

JimJohnson 02-04-2021 05:15 AM

I’ve said from the beginning that retired seniors should be last and WD is on the right track.

RaunchyRich 02-04-2021 05:40 AM

Why ever go to Winn Dixie in the first place... everything there is nasty

golfing eagles 02-04-2021 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RaunchyRich (Post 1897056)
Why ever go to Winn Dixie in the first place... everything there is nasty

So says someone with the screen name "Raunchy" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

NachoMama 02-04-2021 05:51 AM

Why would a 66 year old retiree go before a 58 year old nurse, or a 49 year old physical therapist, or the firefighter who might have to give you CPR?

PugMom 02-04-2021 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1897058)
So says someone with the screen name "Raunchy" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

:clap2::1rotfl:

JULIE2049 02-04-2021 05:56 AM

So much for seniors first.

ckbenjamin 02-04-2021 05:58 AM

If it means my children could go back to work safely, they could have my place in line (if I could even get in line, that is.) As things are now I figure it'll be a minimum of a year before they can get vaccinated. This country and more specifically my children and their spouses need to get back to work.

ficoguy 02-04-2021 05:59 AM

Yoga instructors are also considered educators and are high priority.

ficoguy 02-04-2021 06:00 AM

No more work. Universal Basic Income.

gypsycaravan 02-04-2021 06:09 AM

Wow --how things change!

MandoMan 02-04-2021 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RaunchyRich (Post 1897056)
Why ever go to Winn Dixie in the first place... everything there is nasty

My girlfriend used to think that. Then she actually went to one—the one at Lake Sumter Landing—and loved it. She said it is so much nicer than the Publix stores, has better quality produce, and is much less expensive.

cjeast24 02-04-2021 06:12 AM

So much for Winn Dixie

ficoguy 02-04-2021 06:14 AM

I won't patronize anything with Dixie in its name.

Skunky1 02-04-2021 06:18 AM

The same people that chased the toilet paper are probably chasing a vaccine

westernrider75 02-04-2021 06:18 AM

I will only address one item in your post. The requirement for race/ethnicity is a FEDERAL requirement on the form. This is not a Winn Dixie issue.

MandoMan 02-04-2021 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 1897016)
Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip

I’m delighted that a week ago I managed to find a place to get a vaccination, despite being not much over 65. However, I do think the policy of Winn-Dixie is in line with the federal recommendations and a much more sensible way of decreasing cases by making communication of the virus more difficult. I WANT supermarket checkers to get vaccinated. They are at much greater risk of getting sick and passing it on than I am. The Florida policy is heavily based on the state wanting to reward a large pool of faithful voters.

As for the race question, I don’t like it either, but in this case it is relevant. This is how New York City discovered that African Americans were at greater risk of dying if they caught the disease. The government legitimately needs to know if they are also more likely to have side effects from the vaccination.

Bill14564 02-04-2021 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip (Post 1897016)
Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

...

If I understand you correctly, I believe you are reading more into this than was intended. As others have stated, and as shown on the Winn-Dixie page, these are the CDC guidelines: 75+ are in group 1B and 65+ in group 1C. These are the same groupings that all other sites in Florida are using EXCEPT that Florida is also allowing 65+ in group 1B.

As for the waiver, that *might* be common to all Covid vaccination locations.

As for my revealing my race: Either my race is so strikingly obvious that it cannot be a secret and is revealed on sight or my race is hidden so well that I can make up anything that I want. If I care that much about my race then I want to make sure they get it right so I'll fill it in myself. If I don't care then it won't bother me to fill it in either accurately or with any nonsense I can think of at the time. In the grand scheme of things, this is not what I would be concerned about.

Girlcopper 02-04-2021 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip (Post 1897016)
Winn Dixie will start taking online COVID vaccine appointments next week. They seem to have different eligibility requirements. According to their published rules, healthcare personnel, pharmacists, dentists and therapists, like your shrink, plus long term care facility residents have FIRST PRIORITY over ordinary seniors.

Then firefighters, police, food workers, like strawberry pickers, postal workers, grocery clerks and stock boys, public transit workers, like UBER drivers?, and teachers, plus people 75 and over that are at HIGH RISK OF ILLNESS AND DEATH from COVID are SECOND PRIORITY.

Now here's the kicker... Then truck drivers, food service people like waiters and waitresses and burger flippers, construction workers, like carpenters, people in finance, like your broker or banker, IT people, like the moderators of this website, people in communications, like telephone operators and car warranty scammers on the phone, people in the law profession, like your lawyer, media personal like reporters, photographers, pressmen and, I guess, newspaper delivery people, public safety people, like crossing guards and public health officials, plus people aged 16 and over who have risk of LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATIONS from COVID are considered THIRD PRIORITY.

So I guess if you are not sick or considered "high risk" but just old, you CAN NOT get a vaccine shot at Winn Dixie.

Oh, plus before I get my shot at Winn Dixie, I have to sign a waiver and sign my rights away if Winn Dixie screws up giving me the vaccine. AND I must reveal my race on that form. <Any lawyers out there that want to comment on that requirement?

So much for "Seniors First"!

Skip

Your info is inaccurate. Thise are federal guidlines NOT the state of Florida. The rules have NOT changed as to who is eligible. You should read thru things before posting information that is not accurate

coconutmama 02-04-2021 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1897079)
My girlfriend used to think that. Then she actually went to one—the one at Lake Sumter Landing—and loved it. She said it is so much nicer than the Publix stores, has better quality produce, and is much less expensive.

Publix is definitely overpriced

J1ceasar 02-04-2021 07:04 AM

Same waiver as everywhere

JimJohnson 02-04-2021 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NachoMama (Post 1897063)
Why would a 66 year old retiree go before a 58 year old nurse, or a 49 year old physical therapist, or the firefighter who might have to give you CPR?

Yes Yes Yes!!!!!!
Think of our country and not simply of yourself.

Byte1 02-04-2021 07:25 AM

It seems that the obvious escapes some folks when hysteria sets in. The reason for starting with seniors is that they are the ones that are primarily filling the hospitals and they are the ones most likely to perish from the virus. I know of at least 12 young folks that have had covid and survived it, mostly with symptoms that lasted about three days. Less trouble than the flu. It is the seniors that suffer the most, so it is most dangerous to them. You will see that many medical staff are passing on the vaccine, probably because they know they are in the younger group that will survive it easily. Just my opinion.
Of course, there is always the argument that by giving it to everyone else BEFORE the seniors would result in a new way to save Social Security......:1rotfl:

Villages Kahuna 02-04-2021 07:47 AM

Sounds like most of the requirements follow the CDC guidelines. That’s unlike the simple “just be over 65” guidelines set by Governor Desantis.

bjd0105 02-04-2021 07:52 AM

So because I am a pharmacy technician I should not get the shot before anyone over 65? Well sorry to say but I've had both shots. The government has had since last year when they started to work on a vaccine to make a game plan for distribution. They failed us once again.

Cranford61 02-04-2021 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NachoMama (Post 1897063)
Why would a 66 year old retiree go before a 58 year old nurse, or a 49 year old physical therapist, or the firefighter who might have to give you CPR?

Or even a strawberry picker.

La lamy 02-04-2021 08:09 AM

I believe the vaccine priority should be for people who are most likely to end up with serious complications and hospitalization from Covid. I think we can all in good conscience know if we are in that category. I'm sure many who have received it were not in that category. I for one have no problem being at the back of the line.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-04-2021 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1897041)
Those who are exposed to the public, who have to work to feed their families, can go first.

I am happy for those who are chasing the vaccine, spending days on every mobile device, and traveling hours to get their dose.

Haven’t changed much since last March, no worries on, or if vaccine will be available. Life is still good.

Would you place young healthy people that have to work ahead of people over the age of 65 with health issues.

Most of the deaths are of people senior citizens with underlying conditions. The chances of younger people dying from Covid-19 is very low.

I say stop the death toll before stopping spreading of the virus.

JanetMM 02-04-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by coconutmama (Post 1897108)
Publix is definitely overpriced

But their store brand of ice cream is really good and it is a full half gallon, like they all used to be!

Guitarman1951 02-04-2021 08:29 AM

Why would you say something like that. That is totally untrue and you know it.

rstebbins 02-04-2021 08:31 AM

Agree with most of above
 
People who are working, making a living and supplying all of us who are retired with our food and services should be first in line. Everyone has to get back to work or we are all in big trouble. Those of us who have the luxury of not working need to be patient as we try to get back to normal. I have not stopped doing most things, just being careful. If you are that worried, just stay at home. But when you go the Publix or Winn Dixie for food, you will be safer if those people are already protected and don't forget all those postal workers, UPS/FEDX drivers that are delivering all those online purchases right to your door.

billethkid 02-04-2021 08:47 AM

Repeating my post from another thread:

If half TV residents get the shot that would be around 70,000.
For good measuring and guessing or out guessing the second guessers throw in another 30,000 for visitors, and all other....
Hence 100,000 folks to vaccinate.
At 1000 per day all done by the end of April.
There should be more than 1000 per day so sometime during the next 90 days all the hub bub and racing to get an appointment will be over.

On a list?
Most of us are.
You could be next....many have posted that they were and are lucky.
Those who are number 29,001 or 39,001 just have to sit and wait.

We have put in a year of waiting....another 1-90 days...not a problem!!

Clark124 02-04-2021 09:03 AM

I went to lake Square mall , they kept insisting I give my mothers maiden name , I said no way that's the number one security question in the world I said NO. After going back and forth with this person he finally relented.

BaileyMom 02-04-2021 09:06 AM

As much as I think Gov DeSantis has done a wonderful job rolling out the vaccination process, I feel the 65 and over policy was not well thought out. I agree with Winn-Dixie's policy. Those in essential positions should be first in line for the vaccine after all they have been keeping our communities running as smoothly as possible. After essential workers, then those with highly compromised immune systems and seniors over 75 should be next in line. I would have liked to have seen a higher age limit as seniors in that age group often aren't computer/technology literate and weren't able to compete with those younger than them for a coveted spot in line. The media has brought on utter fear about COVID and created a group of manic seniors looking to get vaccinated. I recognize COVID can be deadly but comparing deaths to cases doesn't support the hype.


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