Two thirds of some units of the US ARMY are refusing mRNA shot ...
 

- The Associated Press


They are smarter than we think they are! :ho:

First line responders are doing the same. Those who choose to wait, have their personal reasons, and I respect that. But there are some posters that think 90% of the population is getting the vaccine. Welcome to the new military that gives you choices

When I was in the US Military you didn't have a choice. You got the vaccines weather you wanted them or not.

Article says one third not two thirds. Big difference.

Pentagon Officials Say One In Three Military Troops Are Refusing The Coronavirus Vaccine

Nope. Article says one third are AGREEING to get the shot...see today’s Daily Sun A 12

That leaves two thirds of some Army units who are NOT.

I don't remember what flu it was but it was a new one and the vaccine was new and had not been tested very long. We were given no choice, you will take the vaccine. I didn't have a seriously bad reaction to it but I remember feeling pretty lousy for a couple days. The risks of being an involuntary guinea pig! Back then there weren't many things you could opt out of in the military.

Times have certainly changed. When I was in basic training in the army in 1965 they lined us up and we received three shots every week. Nobody told us what they were and of course we did not ask.

It could also be fake news...

Same article said “ those refusing vaccine eligible for. Immediate deployment”.

What article are you reading?? I'd guess anytime a soldier gets a choice, he'll choose opposite what his command might choose.


" About two-thirds of U.S. troops who have been offered the coronavirus vaccine have accepted the jab...

early data” shows about a third of U.S. troops who are able to get a coronavirus vaccine decline to do so"

In every article posted including army times the number is in 1/3 with the navy having over 70% vaccinated , the pentagon gives the biggest reason being young people don’t feel the virus threatens them this is no different then the general public where as you move down in ages more won’t take it

There are about ten different
 

news stories posted on this including all the service news groups it’s one third

I started basic in Feb 1966. They were vaccinating everyone for potential south east Asia deployment. I remember Plague, Yellow Fever, Cholera, Tetanus, Typhoid, and a few others. I thought I was a pin cushion. Some of those shots really made us feel pretty bad.

I was in Afghanistan when COVID19 hit. I can tell you for certain that you will choose to get the shot to avoid the hassle of not having it.

You fly in to Kuwait and you are placed in two weeks of isolation at a minimum depending on flights out. That is 14 days behind chain link with no internet with little to nothing to do. Depending on time of the year it's 120. Sure you have AC in your barracks with 119 of your friends but the novelty is over in four minutes. The AC is not something that your would call comfort cool, that is for certain.

Vaccine = 1 - 3 days in that desert paradise. Believe me you will do damn near anything to avoid any extended stays at Ali Al Saleem or Camp Arifjan, Kuwait.

I don't trust the MSM to understand that the Base Commander is god in theater not some O-5 in the pentagon. S/he sets the rules. S/he says vaccine required, you get the vaccine, no discussion, no democracy.

From the Forbes article that YouNeverKnow posted. I honestly do not understand how the military can allow this. The same for first responders. No one should be able to force you to get the vaccine. On the other hand if you are a first responder and are going to be in close contact with people, you should not be allowed to do your job if you refuse the vaccine. Same for the military. Not getting the vaccine is endangering the lives of your fellow servicemen who live in work in close quarters.

Exactly. I filled up two shot record cards like they were S&H green stamps during my career!:1rotfl:

It was me that said that and I was proven wrong. Bucco who never lies said it was 72%. I think he is correct.

I can't remember if you have a medical background. I don't. I just read a lot of medical stuff but am very picky from WHERE.

What a different world we live in.
In 1956 when I joined military, we were told to report to MO for shots, and in later years when posted abroad, for more.
I am still none the wiser as to what they put into me.
All we were told, was it would stop us popping our clogs from some heathen disease!
As for choice? :1rotfl:

When I was sent to Puerto Rico I needed a Yellow Fever vaccination. The dispensary in Philly didn't have it so they noted in my records that I didn't have it and would get it in Puerto Rico. It never happened. When I was getting discharged back it Philly and they saw I did not receive it they gave it to me in Philly the day before I was discharged. It was effective, it has protected me against Yellow Fever in PA and now here ever since :)

So in other words if you carry a certain line of work, your not entitled to freedom of choice? Those are some really strong opinions, and as someone who works in healthcare, I’ll be damned if someone will tell me what I can do for my own life and health...

And the current CDC adverse reactions 500+ reported deaths so far from vaccines, for those who believe there is none..

How can you lie like this. This is the quote

TOPLINE About two-thirds of U.S. troops who have been offered the coronavirus vaccine have accepted the jab, Pentagon officials said Wednesday, raising questions about the safety of the U.S. armed forces as reports of coronavirus outbreaks still plague the military.

That’s encouraging. Now all the enemy has to do is send in some covid carriers to infect and immobilize our troops. Defeated without firing a single shot.

CDCs latest update on Covid vaccines adverse reactions and deaths 500+
 

here is the latest update...500+ reported deaths..

No, the article says that two-thirds who were OFFERED the vaccine ACCEPTED the vaccine, which means one-third did NOT accept the vaccine. That’s very sad. There was a time when people going into the military were tough and brave and accepted all their shots and their first buzz cut without complaint, though they may have gritted their teeth, and some passed out from getting several vaccines at once. Willing to face a bullet but not a needle? I don’t get it. General Washington required his troops at Valley Forge to accept smallpox inoculation. That was a big deal, much more dangerous than this vaccine. I believe two or three of the soldiers died from their inoculation. But the result was that the rest stayed free of smallpox, a scourge of army life, and lived on. Without the inoculations, we may well have lost that war. I’d tell the troops “Take the vaccine or get a dishonorable discharge.” I guess everywhere we go, there are people who believe conspiracy theories and pseudo-science. Why should military personnel be any different?

Please provide the direct web link to this data. The information I get is there are NO direct links between the COVID shot and deaths. Only that there were deaths of people 77 and over who had received the vaccine, but it was not determined those deaths were due to the vaccine.

And you believe The Daily Sun over The Petagon?

Its the me me me mentality.

To where? As punishment? Is there a new war brewing? We haven't had one in over four years. Hmmmmm.

I don't know what to believe. I have seen a couple of posters claim there have been deaths from the mRNA vaccines. I have searched for that information but come up with nothing. Will you please post a link to information that states there have been deaths directly related to the mRNA vaccines. Thanks.

The deaths in Norway in the nursing home were people who were very old and frail and even a fever would have made them die. I don't consider those deaths to be directly related to the vaccines. From what I have read, people over 90 years old were not in trials and those nursing home patients should not have received the vaccines in the first place. This is an article about those deaths in Norway.........

Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination | The BMJ

I found this report from the CDC. It says of the over 900 reports of death after the vaccinations, no deaths were directly related to the vaccines. Am I reading this incorrectly???

Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination | CDC

Does this report include follow up investigation to see if the vaccine actually was directly responsible for the deaths? The article I just posted by the CDC states they always investigate deaths reported and request medical records to do their investigation. NO death was found to be a direct cause from the vaccines. That was my take away from the CDC article I posted.

EDIT: The above quoted comment does not include the graph you posted for some reason. I don't know why that happened.

Who cares!! One third, two thirds. It’s plain and simple. If you want to get the vaccine get it if you don’t then don’t.

Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto, Oh, let's call the whole thing off!

I could not find the chart. This is from the CDC site. Selected Adverse Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccination | CDC All deaths after Vaccination must be reported to VAERS. The deaths are then investigated to determine if the vaccine caused the death. Go to the part that is headlined
Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination

Your choice is your line of work. Do you think all steelworker want to wear the fall restraint harness all day? Or that warehouse people enjoy steel toed boots?

If your choice is to work in healthcare, then taking a vaccine that helps keep your patients safe seems reasonable.
If you choose not to be vaccinated, that is your choice and right. Just not to keep the same job.

People who believe there are NO deaths from the vaccine usually are the people who believe EVERYBODY dies when they get the disease. When do we start believing liars like the cdc, who or the media?

Look in the thread, I already did...I posted the CDC page...

Worked through AIDS, HIV and many other diseases that was I not vaccinated for and they had a much higher risk of death and I took the risk, to take care of others....no one cared then! Again, how dare anybody tell me what I should do with my body....or my profession....and a fall restraint harness is proven, and has nothing absolutely nothing to do with taking a vaccine....what a ridiculous comparison...

Or comparing steel toed boots...smdh

You take away whatever you want and I will take away with what I believe don’t impose your beliefs on me I’m simply showing you the CDC chart