Adding a closet to 3rd bedroom in Gardenia model
 

We have a Gardenia model and need to add a closet to the 3rd bedroom as it does not have one.
Has anyone hired a contractor to do this?
If so, can you please provide details cost and contact details of the contractor.
Thank you very much
Julie

If you have basic skills, it’s frame work and some doors, Lowe’s or HD will even cut the lumber for you. If not some handyman’s talents are pretty good, without trying to find a contractor for such a small job

Or if you don't need a full wall closet buy a free standing unit.

How can they sell you a 3 BR home if a bedroom doesn't have a closet? I thought that was a requirement to call it a 3BR.

Lots of bedrooms here do not have closet.

We are in a 3 bedroom Begonia and front bedroom is closetless.

It’s not a 3 bedroom home. It is a 2 bedroom plus a den.

:agree: It's a den.

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ESP installation (Jordan)386-344-2447
5 years ago the price was $1000.00
Did a great job.

We bought a Gardenia. It's the version of the plan with the windowed arches above the front door, and above the kitchen window and den window. We bought pre-owned. It was all the natural light that comes into a Gardenia that sold me.

Now, you are going to make your home an official 3 bedroom. Good idea.

Mr. Boomer can do the kind of work you need -- but he is not for hire. You should be able to get some suggestions here though.

You have probably thought this all through, but I cannot resist throwing in a few things to think about -- if you have not already.

I don't know if all Gardenias have a cathedral ceiling in the den, but if you do, you might want to think about if you would like for the drywall to follow the angle of the ceiling as the finished look. (I am assuming you are thinking of using the wall that backs up to the bathroom -- but maybe not.) Anyway, you will want someone who is particular about their drywall work so the closet will look like it has always been a part of the room.

You will need to decide if you want sliding doors, bi-fold doors, or French doors. French doors can come pre-hung. Also, discuss finish trim with the person you choose.

A closet is supposed to be a minimum depth of 24 inches for clothes. Rod height has a formula to it, too. If you do not need the closet for mostly hanging clothes, you could have shelves built along the sides in addition to the top shelves and leave a smaller space in the middle for hanging.

Please forgive me for going on and on. I love a good project. And I think your idea to make your Gardenia into a 3 bedroom is brilliant. :)

Boomer

Call it as you wish but TV calls the closetless bedroom a bedroom.

Sitting in it now as I took it for my office but when the world returns to normal we will also use it as a bedroom. If we had regular guests would add a closet of some sort but it can be used as a bedroom if one wishes.

We also have a Gardenia. I think you had an option to have a closet in the third bedroom that would reduce the size of what I use as an office. Looking at what we have, I would assume where you would put a closet, opposite the window would make it necessary to move the air conditioning duct, as well as rebuild the sunken ceiling.

As someone else suggested using an armoire might be an idea-a solution.

From where I’m from, that floor plan should be called a 2 bedroom plus den. A bedroom should have a closet to be called a bedroom. Right???

They don't!
 

Yes, it is a requirement legally, to have a closet for each bedroom. So no, she didn't buy a three bedroom if the third room with a bed doesn't have a closet. .

That's the difference between lay talk and legal talk. . .

lawyer guy

The Villages Gardenia Floor Plan has it as a 2 bedroom and den.

Could well be but when we purchased our Begonia beginning of 2020 all of the literature called it a 3 bedroom.

Besides look at what the Villages sales dept is selling and calling it a 3 bedroom.

If you look at the Begonia FP specifies 2 br and a den. My Gardenia was advertised as a 3 br but front br has a large closet across the wall opposite the window.

There were several versions for the Gardenia, we have one and we built. We wanted 3 bedroom, but the was not room for the additional 3rd bedroom, so we have a DEN, no closet, and it was described as 2 bedroom and den.

Even a den needs a closet. So they should stop being so chintzy and just put a closet in that front room, period.

When we were looking all these type homes were listed as 2 bedrooms and a den. Every 3 bedroom had 3 closets. Very straight forward.

If the ceiling is normal height is should be an easy job.

Back in the day. . .
 

I guess TV marketing has changed. We bought our Gardenia in 2013. It was built in 2007. It was called a 2 bedroom + den.

Of course, you can use it for a bedroom. You can use it for anything you want. But to be an official bedroom — in most places — it needs to have a closet.

And, now, I must digress. It is my curse to do so. . .

Up north where there are basements, people sometimes put what they call bedrooms there. . .

But where I come from, code requires a bedroom to have a window — and for a basement bedroom, not just any window — has to be a window big enough for a fully-equipped firefighter to get through. . .

A single (divorced) friend of mine, who has a whole big house to herself, had such a window put into her basement for a bedroom she did not need. . .

I suspect she is waiting for that fully-equipped firefighter (like the ones on calendars) to come through.

Boomer

ToTV thread.................way off topic.
OP, we all know what you mean by 3BRM and adding a closet.
Hope you can find an answer within.

Decided to pull out the info that came with the house and see what we actually purchased.

The literature that was put out by a properties of the Villages sales rep says the house is 3 bedroom and 2 bath. The reps picture is even on the literature.

The Begonia floor plan does say what we thought was the third bedroom is actually a den. Strangely enough the third bedroom (as we will continue to call it) is actually a drop bigger than the second bedroom (which does come with a closet).

Not going to do anything about it but wow were we misled.

What law are you referring to?

Florida has adopted the International Residential Code, which is part of the Florida Building Code. The International Residential Code does not require a bedroom to have a closet.

Oh well. Just keep enjoying your room and don’t give its name another thought.

In one of the houses we have had up north, the office/den/no-closet room was called a bedroom by not only the real estate agent, but also by the property tax site. I knew it was not a bedroom, but we liked the house and it had enough bedrooms — and the last thing I wanted to do was rattle the tax guy’s cage to try to get the assessment to list fewer bedrooms. The room became my office and was used by me to type many a TOTV post.

(Btw, yes, like somebody here said, this thread might be slightly off track — but that’s OK. My people call this kind of thing a nice conversation. And nobody is mad at anybody over closet/no closet — although, the evening is yet young. )

And, now, for a segue into TOTV history — about threads jumping the track:

Many years ago when the room here was small because the site had just started, threads would get a little sideways into conversations.

There were those who would holler, “Hijack!” It was hollered in good fun — well. . .usually in good fun.

Anyway, that was when the long-running “Girl Talk” thread was started by Barefoot. “No Boys Allowed” — because everybody knows that women can follow at least 3 — maybe more — conversations at one time — and participate in all of them — and there will be no complaints about staying on topic.

Haven’t any of you guys ever noticed that when you are out to dinner with a woman, she can talk with you while filtering conversations from another table and/or the booth behind you — and fill you in. We can’t help it.

The “Girl Talk” thread is in the Feminine Forum. There you can see the archives of TOTV. It goes way back, jumps from topic to topic, and everybody involved does just fine. (I have not looked at the thread lately. I hope it is still up and running. Maybe I will go check.)

Anyway, thanks for the conversation, and for the OP, I wish all the best with the closet project.

Boomer

You can call it what you want...............In-law Suite. :coolsmiley:

It's a perfect Guest Suite...........no closet space so they can't stay toooooo long.

Wow! That was a real bargain. I would estimate that the materials alone would be close to $1,000.

Per realtor license school - Section 200 of the Florida building code
 

Realtor license school references Section 200 of the Florida Building code.

What is a Bedroom as Defined by Florida Building Code?

but then again, if the TV marketing reps aren't licenses realtors, then they can call it whatever they want, as they have no code of ethics. . .

legal guy who stayed at a Holiday Inn last night :popcorn:

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A dozen 2by 4s, 48 inch bifold door, 2 sheets of sheetrock and 1/2 gal of paint.

"Haven’t any of you guys ever noticed that when you are out to dinner with a woman, she can talk with you while filtering conversations from another table and/or the booth behind you — and fill you in. We can’t help it"


My husband can do this. That's why I married him!:)

First thing you learn as a real estate agent is how to lie:faint:

We had a wall bed installed in our first house. When we moved to a Camelia (same floor plan as a Gardenia) we had another wall bed installed. One difference from the old house: we had a closet put in one side of the bed and 2 drawers instead of a dresser. Works great for us!

Build in draws as well This will eliminate the need for a dresser. Bifold doors work great. Allow for full access.
Lowe's or Home depo have closet section. Go check it out for ideas.

Then it is not a bedroom it is a den. The description would be 2 bedrooms and a den.

It has to do with size of the room not the cost to put in the closet. The room would be very small if they took out 2.5 feet for the closet.

Correct it's a two bedroom plus den, all the real estate agents will tell you otherwise but that's a load of b - s

Just review the tax records for the correct description.

Technically its a den that could be used as a bedroom.:welcome:

But this lie was in writing.

Different locations have Different requirements to be defined as a bedroom.

Some locations DO NOT require a closets.

:ohdear:

In the absence of a closet it’s really a 2BR with a den.