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Golfer222 07-01-2021 05:50 AM

Verbal assault on golf course
 
Background to yesterdays post regarding golfing on executive course after last tee time.

After inquiring if it is allowable to golf after last tee time of day ( both at the trail fee office and the starter a few days prior and both said it was fine), we arrived at the tee box about 715 pm- there were a few other waiting. After the 6th hole we noticed the other that were ahead of us were gone and we caught up to a very slow group. They were hitting 3 and 4 ball off of the tee each, playing all of the balls and sitting in their cart for about 3 minutes after leaving the green.
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them". His wife then informed us that they booked the last tee time and no one was allowed behind them. I told them we inquired and was told it was ok to do this and having the last tee time does not make it their own personal practice range. Again was cursed at .It felt like they were being slow on purpose , then making you believe they were going to the next hole and then stopping their cart in an effort to stir trouble. . I feel the other groups between us had the same experience and probably just left.

Chellybean 07-01-2021 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1966955)
Background to yesterdays post regarding golfing on executive course after last tee time.

After inquiring if it is allowable to golf after last tee time of day ( both at the trail fee office and the starter a few days prior and both said it was fine), we arrived at the tee box about 715 pm- there were a few other waiting. After the 6th hole we noticed the other that were ahead of us were gone and we caught up to a very slow group. They were hitting 3 and 4 ball off of the tee each, playing all of the balls and sitting in their cart for about 3 minutes after leaving the green.
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them". His wife then informed us that they booked the last tee time and no one was allowed behind them. I told them we inquired and was told it was ok to do this and having the last tee time does not make it their own personal practice range. Again was cursed at .It felt like they were being slow on purpose , then making you believe they were going to the next hole and then stopping their cart in an effort to stir trouble. . I feel the other groups between us had the same experience and probably just left.

Sorry friend alot of Entitled people here that act like jerks, get used to it is part of bad behavior in people!

Babubhat 07-01-2021 06:48 AM

Bad luck to run into a few jerks. You could find out from the starter sheet who they are

Marathon Man 07-01-2021 07:30 AM

If they were that slow, then a spot was open in front of them. Just skip a hole. Problem solved.

Dana1963 07-01-2021 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1967031)
If they were that slow, then a spot was open in front of them. Just skip a hole. Problem solved.

Most sensible suggestion yet.

ThirdOfFive 07-01-2021 08:45 AM

There are entitled jerks everywhere.

But in all honesty, we've lived here for the better part of a year now and the only part about jerkiness in The Villages is really how RARE the jerks are. I can remember only two, and they were not major incidents at all--more likely someone just having a bad day. I've found that overwhelmingly, people treat you the same way you treat them.

billethkid 07-01-2021 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1967031)
If they were that slow, then a spot was open in front of them. Just skip a hole. Problem solved.

Be sure to wave and smile on the way by......
:duck:

Bill14564 07-01-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by stan the man (Post 1966993)
Why would you complain here..Either get out of your cart and settle thr problem or just go home.

Because one of those solutions does not solve the problem and the other solves it for exactly one group. Neither is good for getting the word out and educating others.

Posting on this forum may let the other group know what they did was improper (if they read this), will let others know that this kind of thing happens, and will let others know that this behavior (believing your last tee time means you own the course) is improper.

It was also good to see the confirmation, from two official sources, that on the Executive courses play is still allowed after the last tee time.

bagboy 07-01-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1967031)
If they were that slow, then a spot was open in front of them. Just skip a hole. Problem solved.

Or, make a tee time.

VApeople 07-01-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1966955)
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them".

So you hit a golf shot that endangered the people in front of you?

If so, then you deserve to have them yell and curse at you.

RICH1 07-01-2021 11:05 AM

Driving the ball at the group
In front of you is Almost always a bad idea! Sometimes " things"
Happen to people!

DAVES 07-01-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 1967082)
There are entitled jerks everywhere.

But in all honesty, we've lived here for the better part of a year now and the only part about jerkiness in The Villages is really how RARE the jerks are. I can remember only two, and they were not major incidents at all--more likely someone just having a bad day. I've found that overwhelmingly, people treat you the same way you treat them.

"People treat you the same way you treat them." These posts we only get one side of the story. Posts, i didn't realize I was wrong are rare indeed.

"Entitled jerks are everywhere," that too is true, not just in the Villages of in Florida.

Fenster 07-01-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1967139)
So you hit a golf shot that endangered the people in front of you?

If so, then you deserve to have them yell and curse at you.

Guess you don’t play golf.

golfing eagles 07-01-2021 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1967139)
So you hit a golf shot that endangered the people in front of you?

If so, then you deserve to have them yell and curse at you.

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 1967147)
Driving the ball at the group
In front of you is Almost always a bad idea! Sometimes " things"
Happen to people!

I believe the OP stated he hit AFTER THEY LEFT THE GREEN AND ROUNDED THE BEND. He did not hit it AT them or ENDANGER them, at least not according to his post.

VApeople 07-01-2021 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967165)
I believe the OP stated he hit AFTER THEY LEFT THE GREEN AND ROUNDED THE BEND. He did not hit it AT them or ENDANGER them, at least not according to his post.

You are wrong. The OP did not state that.

The OP said the golfers in front of him "started to leave"'.

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1966955)
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them".

It sounds like the golfers were still 'in range' when the OP hit his shot. In that case, I think the golfers were totally justified to yell and curse at the OP.

It is terrible to hit a golf ball and intentionally endanger another person.

Golfer222 07-01-2021 12:40 PM

They had left the green, rounded the bend on the cart path on the other side of my green. Looked back and saw my ball hit the green (Pin high btw), slammed the brakes,put it in reverse and walked to my green, looked down at ball and yelled at me if I hit the ball. When I said yes, the cursing began

npwalters 07-01-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1967178)
They had left the green, rounded the bend on the cart path on the other side of my green. Looked back and saw my ball hit the green (Pin high btw), slammed the brakes,put it in reverse and walked to my green, looked down at ball and yelled at me if I hit the ball. When I said yes, the cursing began

Sounds like it was time to tell to tell them to kiss your ..... and get off your green.

Joe V. 07-01-2021 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1967178)
They had left the green, rounded the bend on the cart path on the other side of my green. Looked back and saw my ball hit the green (Pin high btw), slammed the brakes,put it in reverse and walked to my green, looked down at ball and yelled at me if I hit the ball. When I said yes, the cursing began

Great shot!

golfing eagles 07-01-2021 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1967173)
You are wrong. The OP did not state that.

The OP said the golfers in front of him "started to leave"'.



It sounds like the golfers were still 'in range' when the OP hit his shot. In that case, I think the golfers were totally justified to yell and curse at the OP.

It is terrible to hit a golf ball and intentionally endanger another person.

OK, I'll play this game:

From the OP:

"On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot." So yes, [B]HE DID STATE THAT[/B]. In addition, if they were leaving and ROUNDING THE BEND, they were off that hole, out of range, and not in danger. This is a tiny exec course---it's not like he was trying to hit a 3 wood 250 to the green and caught it flush for 280.

BTW, do you actually play golf??? I'm inclined to think not, because a golfer is not likely to scream and curse even if a ball comes somewhat near them. They realize the nuances of the game and will generally politely accept an apology. And most golfers would not consider it justified to curse and yell

No offense, just correcting the record :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Gpsma 07-01-2021 01:38 PM

After reading endless posts from golfers here onTOTV and hearing complaints, in person, from golfers.

Golfers are the most entitled and complaining folks in The Villages.

golfing eagles 07-01-2021 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1967213)
After reading endless posts from golfers here onTOTV and hearing complaints, in person, from golfers.

Golfers are the most entitled and complaining folks in The Villages.

I think not. I think it's a tie between those that want to use a golf course for something other than golf, and line dancers:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Oh, yeah, and residents of Harmeswood

karostay 07-01-2021 02:01 PM

You made a last min decision to play golf so you walked on like many of us have done
Your entitled to nothing

dewilson58 07-01-2021 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1967213)
Golfers are the most entitled and complaining folks in The Villages.

A few golfers are, but not the MOST.......the MOST are the broken promises complainers.

:duck:

:MOJE_whot:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-01-2021 03:07 PM

You didn't have a tee-time. The people ahead of you did. They are "entitled" to be there. While you "can" be there, you're not "entitled" to be there, because you didn't have a tee-time and showed up after the last tee-time. You should've waited til they were gone. As the people who DID have the last tee-time, they DID have the right to use it as their practice range. Until 20 minutes after dusk. You, on the other hand, did not. You "may" use it, but you are not "entitled" to.

golfing eagles 07-01-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1967245)
You didn't have a tee-time. The people ahead of you did. They are "entitled" to be there. While you "can" be there, you're not "entitled" to be there, because you didn't have a tee-time and showed up after the last tee-time. You should've waited til they were gone. As the people who DID have the last tee-time, they DID have the right to use it as their practice range. Until 20 minutes after dusk. You, on the other hand, did not. You "may" use it, but you are not "entitled" to.

I take it you don't play golf either. When playing a round of golf you are NEVER entitled to use it as a practice range, that what a practice range is for. People who play 4 and 5 shots from the same area are creating excessive wear and tear on the course (and probably the first to complain about conditions). And yes, before some wise guy posts it, I am aware of the practice rounds that precede a PGA tournament. Those are not held on exec course in TV.

ajbrown 07-01-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967250)
I take it you don't play golf either. When playing a round of golf you are NEVER entitled to use it as a practice range, that what a practice range is for. People who play 4 and 5 shots from the same area are creating excessive wear and tear on the course (and probably the first to complain about conditions). And yes, before some wise guy posts it, I am aware of the practice rounds that precede a PGA tournament. Those are not held on exec course in TV.

Thank you, saved me a post which would not have been nearly as nice as yours :)

I think we need a thumbs down icon.

golfing eagles 07-01-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 1967252)
Thank you, saved me a post which would not have been nearly as nice as yours :)

I think we need a thumbs down icon.

I was lenient because I perceived ignorance on her part:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-01-2021 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967250)
I take it you don't play golf either. When playing a round of golf you are NEVER entitled to use it as a practice range, that what a practice range is for. People who play 4 and 5 shots from the same area are creating excessive wear and tear on the course (and probably the first to complain about conditions). And yes, before some wise guy posts it, I am aware of the practice rounds that precede a PGA tournament. Those are not held on exec course in TV.

I appreciate the kind correction on that. I misunderstood what was meant by practice range, being someone who doesn't play golf, as you surmised. I thought they were talking about just - not being very good, and needing an extra shot or two on a few holes here and there, while not really being vigilant about scoring.

golfing eagles 07-01-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1967255)
I appreciate the kind correction on that. I misunderstood what was meant by practice range, being someone who doesn't play golf, as you surmised. I thought they were talking about just - not being very good, and needing an extra shot or two on a few holes here and there, while not really being vigilant about scoring.

Hence, the leniency :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

It's OK, I still love you

VApeople 07-01-2021 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1967178)
They had left the green, rounded the bend on the cart path on the other side of my green. Looked back and saw my ball hit the green (Pin high btw),

In my opinion, based on playing golf for over 60 years, you should have let them get farther away before you hit. It was very wrong and very inconsiderate for you to hit when they were close to the green.

golfing eagles 07-01-2021 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1967265)
In my opinion, based on playing golf for over 60 years, you should have let them get farther away before you hit. It was very wrong and very inconsiderate for you to hit when they were close to the green.

Maybe you and I are just visualizing this differently. I imagined that the cart was parked alongside a green, then the people left the green, got in their carts, and then drove around the back of the green and were still driving away when the OP hit his ball. If so, I don't see anything wrong with his actions, unless the hole was so poorly designed that the cart path was 2 yard beyond the green

dewilson58 07-01-2021 04:34 PM

I had a bozo behind me hit onto the green when I was exiting, but still on the green.
It was a nice shot, but I was ten feet from the pin.
(probably the safest place)

Next hole, he teed off and I was at the 150 marker (par 4).
The ball came 20 feet past me.
(he was hitting from green tees)

I thought that was enough, so I just picked up his ball as I exited the fairway.

:icon_wink:

Golfer222 07-01-2021 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1967266)
Maybe you and I are just visualizing this differently. I imagined that the cart was parked alongside a green, then the people left the green, got in their carts, and then drove around the back of the green and were still driving away when the OP hit his ball. If so, I don't see anything wrong with his actions, unless the hole was so poorly designed that the cart path was 2 yard beyond the green

This was the exact scenario. The guy was sitting in his cart after leaving every green for about 5 mins. I think he was trying to prove a point that the course was now “his”. I waited patiently as on the other greens I could not see his complete exit but on this one he was behind the green very close to the next tee

Topspinmo 07-01-2021 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1966955)
Background to yesterdays post regarding golfing on executive course after last tee time.

After inquiring if it is allowable to golf after last tee time of day ( both at the trail fee office and the starter a few days prior and both said it was fine), we arrived at the tee box about 715 pm- there were a few other waiting. After the 6th hole we noticed the other that were ahead of us were gone and we caught up to a very slow group. They were hitting 3 and 4 ball off of the tee each, playing all of the balls and sitting in their cart for about 3 minutes after leaving the green.
On the 8 hole after they started to leave in their cart and rounded the bend, I hit my shot. He slammed on the brakes and started cursing at me for "hitting into them". His wife then informed us that they booked the last tee time and no one was allowed behind them. I told them we inquired and was told it was ok to do this and having the last tee time does not make it their own personal practice range. Again was cursed at .It felt like they were being slow on purpose , then making you believe they were going to the next hole and then stopping their cart in an effort to stir trouble. . I feel the other groups between us had the same experience and probably just left.

Typical golfer’s on short courses. It’s why they moved here for the free golf. They hit so many balls to get onto green, I sure they repaired all the divots, they they sat there adding up there under par score after subtracting all the mulligan’s.

dewilson58 07-01-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1967270)
Typical golfer’s on short courses. It’s why they moved here for the free golf. They hit so many balls to get onto green, I sure they repaired all the divots, they they sat there adding up there under par score after subtracting all the mulligan’s.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:
Have seen a few of those.

golfing eagles 07-01-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfer222 (Post 1967269)
This was the exact scenario. The guy was sitting in his cart after leaving every green for about 5 mins. I think he was trying to prove a point that the course was now “his”. I waited patiently as on the other greens I could not see his complete exit but on this one he was behind the green very close to the next tee

Well, since he was going over to the 9th tee, he must have felt it was his last chance to be a total a$$h0l3:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Topspinmo 07-01-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1967228)
A few golfers are, but not the MOST.......the MOST are the broken promises complainers.

:duck:

:MOJE_whot:


Maybe you can’t see the forest from all the trees 🌲? :)

dewilson58 07-01-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1967273)
Maybe you can’t see the forest from all the trees 🌲? :)

There are no forests on the Exec Courses. :MOJE_whot:

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