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GrumpyOldMan 07-03-2021 08:13 AM

Plans for the end of the world?
 
More and more evidence of the ultra-rich making arrangements to isolate themselves from the common rift raft and potentially survive an existential event.

New Zealand passed a law limiting the purchase of land by the ultra-rich for survival "bunkers". (Imagine extravagant luxury towers underground), because so much of their country was being bought up, and taken from its citizens.

Today I saw an article about a Yacht Liner, 730 feet, with 39 apartments ($11 million ea), bars, clubs, etc, etc., etc. A floating city, for the Richie Rich's.

So, the thought that comes to my mind, when the Apocolypse does come - climate change, war, pandemic, alien invasion, or whatever they are concerned with that wipes out the common rabble - who are the rich survivers going to exploit?

EDITED to remove a political reference that was unintended.

Stu from NYC 07-03-2021 08:52 AM

Guess we should build a storm cellar with a very powerful pump.

JoelJohnson 07-03-2021 08:56 AM

Who is going to do all the work that the rich refuse to do if they are the only ones left?

GrumpyOldMan 07-03-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by stu from nyc (Post 1967945)
guess we should build a storm cellar with a very powerful pump.

lol!

Get real 07-03-2021 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1967915)
More and more evidence of the ultra-rich making arrangements to isolate themselves from the common rift raft and potentially survive an existential event.

New Zealand passed a law limiting the purchase of land by the ultra-rich for survival "bunkers". (Imagine Trump Towers underground), because so much of their country was being bought up, and taken from its citizens.

Today I saw an article about a Yacht Liner, 730 feet, with 39 apartments ($11 million ea), bars, clubs, etc, etc., etc. A floating city, for the Richie Rich's.

So, the thought that comes to my mind, when the Apocolypse does come - climate change, war, pandemic, alien invasion, or whatever they are concerned with that wipes out the common rabble - who are the rich survivers going to exploit?

They will miss out on town square happy hour. :MOJE_whot:

GrumpyOldMan 07-03-2021 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1967951)
Who is going to do all the work that the rich refuse to do if they are the only ones left?

Yup, imagine the look on their faces when they come out of their survival shelter and realized there no one to rule.

Ben Franklin 07-03-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1967979)
Yup, imagine the look on their faces when they come out of their survival shelter and realized there no one to rule.

That's how they will perish. No one left for them to exploit.

Byte1 07-03-2021 12:11 PM

Wealth envy is very unhealthy. I do not care what happens to others in "THE END" because if I am a survivor, I will be too busy surviving. The only wealthy in an apocalypse will be the one that has something of value in which to barter for essentials. Maybe toilet paper will be currency. I doubt anyone here will be around to wonder about the rich by the time the END comes. Although, I have heard that a major solar flare will damage half our world in the next five years. Better stock up on toilet paper...........:1rotfl:

Arctic Fox 07-03-2021 12:20 PM

Anyone living in The Villages is rich compared to 99% of the World's population, so consider it your survival bunker and live life to the max.

GrumpyOldMan 07-03-2021 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1968070)
Wealth envy is very unhealthy. I do not care what happens to others in "THE END" because if I am a survivor, I will be too busy surviving. The only wealthy in an apocalypse will be the one that has something of value in which to barter for essentials. Maybe toilet paper will be currency. I doubt anyone here will be around to wonder about the rich by the time the END comes. Although, I have heard that a major solar flare will damage half our world in the next five years. Better stock up on toilet paper...........:1rotfl:

One, I don't envy them at all. And two wealth is just another word for power. No money, no power, lots of money, lots of power.

And it doesn't matter what the currency is after the apocalypse, what matters is who controls it - again power.

If I were a multi-billionaire I would not worry so much about having a comfy bed to sleep in, as I would invest in a serious power station (in my underground bunker) - maybe nuke - energy will be one of the most valuable assets.

Gulfcoast 07-03-2021 12:27 PM

Let them live in their Dungeons and Dragons Lalaland. If we're lucky they'll go into their luxury bunkers and get locked in "by accident".

As for me, I'll continue to hang out with my good friends Riff and Raff.

Malsua 07-03-2021 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1967979)
Yup, imagine the look on their faces when they come out of their survival shelter and realized there no one to rule.

I prefer to think of the look on their faces when they come out and realize their rulers are already outside. In fact, they might have to evacuate their bunkers a bit early when the smoke coming into the inlets gets a bit more than the scrubbers can handle.

I don't know about Ya'll, but the Humungous seems like a reasonable man and I'm a pretty handy fellow. I think I'd fit right into his organization.

Two Bills 07-03-2021 12:58 PM

I am in my 80's, and as a great actor once said, "Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!"

kkingston57 07-03-2021 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1967915)
More and more evidence of the ultra-rich making arrangements to isolate themselves from the common rift raft and potentially survive an existential event.

New Zealand passed a law limiting the purchase of land by the ultra-rich for survival "bunkers". (Imagine Trump Towers underground), because so much of their country was being bought up, and taken from its citizens.

Today I saw an article about a Yacht Liner, 730 feet, with 39 apartments ($11 million ea), bars, clubs, etc, etc., etc. A floating city, for the Richie Rich's.

So, the thought that comes to my mind, when the Apocolypse does come - climate change, war, pandemic, alien invasion, or whatever they are concerned with that wipes out the common rabble - who are the rich survivers going to exploit?

Per R.E.M "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine"

Blueblaze 07-03-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1967915)
More and more evidence of the ultra-rich making arrangements to isolate themselves from the common rift raft and potentially survive an existential event.

New Zealand passed a law limiting the purchase of land by the ultra-rich for survival "bunkers". (Imagine Trump Towers underground), because so much of their country was being bought up, and taken from its citizens.

Today I saw an article about a Yacht Liner, 730 feet, with 39 apartments ($11 million ea), bars, clubs, etc, etc., etc. A floating city, for the Richie Rich's.

So, the thought that comes to my mind, when the Apocolypse does come - climate change, war, pandemic, alien invasion, or whatever they are concerned with that wipes out the common rabble - who are the rich survivers going to exploit?

Yeah! We hate those rich guys, right? No exploiters around here!

Man, I feel bad for all those poor exploited people who had to take money from those "Richy Rich" guys just to build them a big dumb escape yacht they'll never use! You know, those downtrodden proletariats don't get to play golf in Senior Disneyworld like us regular folks. Heck, those poor saps have to work for a living! Imagine the indignity!

Damn those rich guys! Why do they have to make poor people build stuff for a living? Will the exploiting never end?

GrumpyOldMan 07-03-2021 03:09 PM

Sounds like a few nerves were touched - sorry, the post was mostly tongue in cheek.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-03-2021 03:36 PM

I'll be topside, having a pina colada and enjoying life because I'm one of those people who believe in science and know the sky isn't falling - while the conspiracy nutjobs are stuck in their 50-year bunkers eating MREs.

Kenswing 07-03-2021 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1967915)
More and more evidence of the ultra-rich making arrangements to isolate themselves from the common rift raft and potentially survive an existential event.

New Zealand passed a law limiting the purchase of land by the ultra-rich for survival "bunkers". (Imagine Trump Towers underground), because so much of their country was being bought up, and taken from its citizens.

Today I saw an article about a Yacht Liner, 730 feet, with 39 apartments ($11 million ea), bars, clubs, etc, etc., etc. A floating city, for the Richie Rich's.

So, the thought that comes to my mind, when the Apocolypse does come - climate change, war, pandemic, alien invasion, or whatever they are concerned with that wipes out the common rabble - who are the rich survivers going to exploit?

Are you just asking this out of boredom or do you really worry about this stuff at this point in your life?

GrumpyOldMan 07-03-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenswing (Post 1968139)
Are you just asking this out of boredom or do you really worry about this stuff at this point in your life?

Just looking for ways to stir the pot without politics - LOL

I guess it is boredom sort of, and testing the waters to see what people here like to talk about. The Metal band Disturbed thread did okay...

This particular one was prompted by an article about the Yacht Liner with apartments for $11 Million each. And thinking what a different world some people live in where they spend $11M on an apartment they might use a couple times a year - maybe.

tvbound 07-03-2021 06:35 PM

There are a lot of people who partially justify their lack of concern of the impact of climate change, on their personal belief that the apocalypse will happen soon anyway. I had an otherwise normal supervisor in the early 80's whose entire small church, in a small town, headed for the hills based on their belief that the world would be ending on a certain date. The mistake he made was broadcasting it and trying to convince everyone else, so when he eventually came back to work - he didn't want to talk about it. lol

Topspinmo 07-03-2021 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1968070)
Wealth envy is very unhealthy. I do not care what happens to others in "THE END" because if I am a survivor, I will be too busy surviving. The only wealthy in an apocalypse will be the one that has something of value in which to barter for essentials. Maybe toilet paper will be currency. I doubt anyone here will be around to wonder about the rich by the time the END comes. Although, I have heard that a major solar flare will damage half our world in the next five years. Better stock up on toilet paper...........:1rotfl:


News flash, regardless of what happens or how much money person has the end is near and there NOTHING you can do about it.

golfing eagles 07-04-2021 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1968153)
Just looking for ways to stir the pot without politics - LOL

I guess it is boredom sort of, and testing the waters to see what people here like to talk about. The Metal band Disturbed thread did okay...

This particular one was prompted by an article about the Yacht Liner with apartments for $11 Million each. And thinking what a different world some people live in where they spend $11M on an apartment they might use a couple times a year - maybe.

Actually, the whole thread is political and class warfare. But nothing new---google "Derinkuyu"
But to whet your appetite:

"The underground city of Derinkuyu, even though located under the surface, was connected with the world. This ancient city was connected to other underground settlements through a series of tunnels.

Underground Derinkuyu was a fully working community; having specific sections underground such as shops, communal rooms, wells, tombs, arsenals, apartments, religious buildings and escape routes. People living in underground Derinkuyu had everything they needed to live life properly.

Underground Derinkuyu is believed to have been capable of offering proper living conditions to around 50,000 people."

No one knows for sure who built it, how, or when, and we would have trouble building today with our modern technology, if we could at all. And interestingly, one of the theories on WHY it was built was "climate change"

jonathanb 07-04-2021 05:24 AM

When the LORD does return believe me underground bunkers will do you no good.

J1ceasar 07-04-2021 05:38 AM

It is so true that way you're looking to live not only in The Villages and all the surrounding communities. Don't forget the bubble only exists in your mind. We're lucky to be alive, we are lucky to be retired, we are lucky to have such wonderful children, and for most of us to have decent health

Annie66 07-04-2021 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1967951)
Who is going to do all the work that the rich refuse to do if they are the only ones left?

My very thought.

Billy1 07-04-2021 05:53 AM

As we learned in the last year, stock pile alcohol and toilet paper. Or, as the man said to the news reporter in Mississippi after hurricane Ivan, we need food down here, I've been drinking beer and eating potato chips for two weeks.

Hiltongrizz11 07-04-2021 06:13 AM

Riff raff not rift raft!

Blueblaze 07-04-2021 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Annie66 (Post 1968241)
My very thought.

I dunno... my very thought was that a lot of rich folks around here refuse to mow their lawns. Somehow it still gets done, usually by some other rich guy.

Heck, I'm so rich I can afford to live in a place where the closest thing to work I ever have to do is to drive a little car through a park and get out every now and then to whack a ball with a stick! But I bet Mr. Massey is a heck of a lot richer than me. Even the guy he pays to ride the mower is richer than 99.9% of the people who have ever been born on this planet

Personal experience would seem to indicate that capitalism continues to function just fine, even when there's no-one left but rich folks. In fact, if anything, it seems to work better when there's no socialists trying to force everyone to be equally destitute.

GOLFER54 07-04-2021 06:28 AM

Who’s gonna pump the gas into those gigantic yachts ?

llaran 07-04-2021 06:49 AM

it's the Hunger Games!

mydavid 07-04-2021 06:50 AM

Really this is what we are talking about?

nick demis 07-04-2021 06:51 AM

There are so many things to worry about with life, this falls next to worrying about the family life of the mosquito I just smacked on my arm.

llaran 07-04-2021 06:57 AM

Justin Bieber just bought a 4th home for a billion. also an article about multimillion $ homes sitting idle for years that celebrities own.

tvbound 07-04-2021 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by llaran (Post 1968286)
Justin Bieber just bought a 4th home for a billion. also an article about multimillion $ homes sitting idle for years that celebrities own.

Bieber bought a billion dollar home? Yeah, OK. lol

GrumpyOldMan 07-04-2021 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadywood (Post 1968259)
I dunno... my very thought was that a lot of rich folks around here refuse to mow their lawns. Somehow it still gets done, usually by some other rich guy.

Heck, I'm so rich I can afford to live in a place where the closest thing to work I ever have to do is to drive a little car through a park and get out every now and then to whack a ball with a stick! But I bet Mr. Massey is a heck of a lot richer than me. Even the guy he pays to ride the mower is richer than 99.9% of the people who have ever been born on this planet

Personal experience would seem to indicate that capitalism continues to function just fine, even when there's no-one left but rich folks. In fact, if anything, it seems to work better when there's no socialists trying to force everyone to be equally destitute.

This is at least a part of why I started this thread.

We are rich, compared to most of the world, but at the very same time, we are very poor compared to some. I seriously doubt there are any residents of The Villages that can toss $11 million for an apartment on a boat that they will use a couple of times per year. Or spend $100 million on an underground bunker that they might need maybe someday.

My point is that having that kind of disposable income, in my not so humble opinion, results in people living in a totally different world and being completely out of touch with "our" reality.

jog222 07-04-2021 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jonathanb (Post 1968232)
when the lord does return believe me underground bunkers will do you no good.

amen!!!:)

GrumpyOldMan 07-04-2021 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by llaran (Post 1968286)
Justin Bieber just bought a 4th home for a billion. also an article about multimillion $ homes sitting idle for years that celebrities own.

I can find nothing about Bieber buying a Billion dollar home. The most expensive I can find is $25 million or so. His net worth is estimated to be around $285M.

The people I am referring to are generally multi-billionaires. Multi-billionaires live in a different world than even the Biebers.

Swoop 07-04-2021 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1967915)
More and more evidence of the ultra-rich making arrangements to isolate themselves from the common rift raft and potentially survive an existential event.

New Zealand passed a law limiting the purchase of land by the ultra-rich for survival "bunkers". (Imagine extravagant luxury towers underground), because so much of their country was being bought up, and taken from its citizens.

Today I saw an article about a Yacht Liner, 730 feet, with 39 apartments ($11 million ea), bars, clubs, etc, etc., etc. A floating city, for the Richie Rich's.

So, the thought that comes to my mind, when the Apocolypse does come - climate change, war, pandemic, alien invasion, or whatever they are concerned with that wipes out the common rabble - who are the rich survivers going to exploit?

EDITED to remove a political reference that was unintended.

You apparently hold a grudge against anyone who is more successful than you in a country where everyone has the opportunity to succeed. But let’s look at it from a different perspective. There are plenty of people living outside the Villages that feel the same way about the residents of The Villages, as you do about the “Richie Rich’s”. Here’s your chance to not just talk about wealth disparity, but do something about it. Take your net worth and divide it amongst the people who resent you for having more. Not when you die - now. Not just a donation - all of it. Then you can finally shed your white wealth guilt and live out the rest of your life guilt free…

golfing eagles 07-04-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitarman1951 (Post 1968323)
You are kidding right? Tell me that you aren't that paranoid cause if you are, you might should seek some medical help.

All I can say is, based on this thread, I am now starting a new business selling "end of the world insurance". There may be some customers here.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

DAVES 07-04-2021 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1967915)
More and more evidence of the ultra-rich making arrangements to isolate themselves from the common rift raft and potentially survive an existential event.

New Zealand passed a law limiting the purchase of land by the ultra-rich for survival "bunkers". (Imagine extravagant luxury towers underground), because so much of their country was being bought up, and taken from its citizens.

Today I saw an article about a Yacht Liner, 730 feet, with 39 apartments ($11 million ea), bars, clubs, etc, etc., etc. A floating city, for the Richie Rich's.

So, the thought that comes to my mind, when the Apocolypse does come - climate change, war, pandemic, alien invasion, or whatever they are concerned with that wipes out the common rabble - who are the rich survivers going to exploit?

EDITED to remove a political reference that was unintended.


Wow what a negative world view. Rich for many is anyone who has more than I do.
Oh and anyone who has more than I do they are evil, I of course am good.

The voice of experience. I've been poor. I am not in the top 1% but I am comfortable-whatever that means. While money may not buy happiness, in the real world it does give you far more options and it does make misery far more fun.


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