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PennBF 07-16-2021 09:01 AM

Moving on up
 
I guess were moving on up? It is the move of having little white crosses on the yards to a rather tall religious statue of a child praying in front of a religious symbol. What is the next action to try to violate the deed restrictions when the home was purchased? It is degrading to the various responsible christian residents. To put these religious symbols on the same level as a pink flamingo,etc is really a lack of respect for the religion that is trying to be "advertised"?:ohdear:

DAVES 07-16-2021 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1973945)
I guess were moving on up? It is the move of having little white crosses on the yards to a rather tall religious statue of a child praying in front of a religious symbol. What is the next action to try to violate the deed restrictions when the home was purchased? It is degrading to the various responsible christian residents. To put these religious symbols on the same level as a pink flamingo,etc is really a lack of respect for the religion that is trying to be "advertised"?:ohdear:

An endless posted topic. Logic? People? Advertise a religion? Over and over the same illogical discussion. Little cross? We know reality, my cross is bigger than your cross so I am more holy than you. I saw one home with three crosses on his/her lawn.

The thought, the argument, the opinion seems to go through most threads. Law well it should apply to others. It should only apply when I fits my narrative.

vintageogauge 07-16-2021 09:58 AM

You didn't mention where this was, some of the older villages do not have restrictions.

VApeople 07-16-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1973945)
To put these religious symbols on the same level as a pink flamingo,etc is really a lack of respect for the religion that is trying to be "advertised"

Yes, it is also insulting to those of us who treat a Pink Flamingo as an important religious symbol.

Think about it. How many people have died because they worship the Pink Flamingo?

Stu from NYC 07-16-2021 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1973988)
Yes, it is also insulting to those of us who treat a Pink Flamingo as an important religious symbol.

Think about it. How many people have died because they worship the Pink Flamingo?

When the space aliens take over the first thing they will do is round up the owners of the pink flamingos.

Dond1959 07-16-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1973989)
When the space aliens take over the first thing they will do is round up the owners of the pink flamingos.

Maybe the aliens have sent an advance force to earth and they identify them by the pink flamingos in their yard.

GrumpyOldMan 07-16-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1973988)
Yes, it is also insulting to those of us who treat a Pink Flamingo as an important religious symbol.

Think about it. How many people have died because they worship the Pink Flamingo?

I hope the Church of the Pink Flamingo uses Marijuana for communion and not crackers and wine - I am all in for that.

thelegges 07-16-2021 06:00 PM

Yesterday Marshall’s had a 6’ metal rooster, and a 6.5 foot metal Pink Flamingo. Today they are both gone..


Start laughing now, both will be in someone’s yard, maybe your next door neighbor :a040::MOJE_whot::1rotfl:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-16-2021 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1973988)
Yes, it is also insulting to those of us who treat a Pink Flamingo as an important religious symbol.

Think about it. How many people have died because they worship the Pink Flamingo?

Same question in reverse: how many people have killed because they worship the pink flamingo?

EdFNJ 07-16-2021 09:05 PM

I guess seeing as we are all (relatively) old folks we have to keep repeating the same things over and over and over.

Rwirish 07-17-2021 04:55 AM

There are deed restrictions which one should be aware before purchasing in TV. Comply with the restrictions.

Blackbird45 07-17-2021 05:00 AM

I'm an agnostic, only enter a church for weddings and funerals. I might not understand the need to advertise what religion you follow, but I really don't understand why this is an issue. I don't lose any sleep because I see a little white cross or a star of David.

BlackHarley 07-17-2021 05:51 AM

I'd give up my ride before giving up "Tilly", my pink flamingo....lol.

Girlcopper 07-17-2021 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 1974243)
I'm an agnostic, only enter a church for weddings and funerals. I might not understand the need to advertise what religion you follow, but I really don't understand why this is an issue. I don't lose any sleep because I see a little white cross or a star of David.

Agree. Dont like it? Dont look

Billy1 07-17-2021 06:45 AM

I see a pink flamingo as being warm and friendly, I see a little white cross as being judgmental. God loves us all.

Two Bills 07-17-2021 06:49 AM

I just think 'more dead pets' as I pass them.
Love the Flamingos though!:ohdear:

DIver0258 07-17-2021 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 1973945)
I guess were moving on up? It is the move of having little white crosses on the yards to a rather tall religious statue of a child praying in front of a religious symbol. What is the next action to try to violate the deed restrictions when the home was purchased? It is degrading to the various responsible christian residents. To put these religious symbols on the same level as a pink flamingo,etc is really a lack of respect for the religion that is trying to be "advertised"?:ohdear:

Another thread failing to focus on the center of the issue at hand. Has nothing to do with religious suppression. Everyone agreed to the deed restrictions when they purchased their home. The cross can be displayed in a window. No we are going to do battle because we are above what we contractually and legally agreed to. Keep beating the dead horse…SMH.

Niferlou06 07-17-2021 07:23 AM

IT is the Deed; Religion need not be the discussion...
 
Its the deed: Adhere to it.
"Lawn Ornaments: lawn ornaments, or yard art, generally refers to manmade items located anywhere outside the structure or footprint of the home. However, pots and planters designed and constructed for plant use, are permitted so long as they are used for their intended purpose. The inclusion or attachment of flowers or plants to a man made ornament, not originally constructed for plant use, does not change the item from a lawn ornament to landscaping. The word "lawn" includes areas that are mulched, concreted, sodded, rocked, landscaped, bare earth or any other material outside the structure (footprint) of the home. The following is intended as a partial reference list of lawn ornaments: any man made statue or figure (INCLUDING: religious symbols, wind chimes, plastic or silk flowers, windmill, pinwheels, trains sets, deer, geese, flamingos or any other animal or human figures"

beeneyra 07-17-2021 07:41 AM

I'm s Christian, I believe in freedom of speech, and religion. Doesn't bother me, but moving on up is racial, referring to the Jefferson who lived on the east side. That bothers me, not sure what a pink flamingo has to do with any of this. Live and let live and just be friendly, this is your hometown friendliest place.

JanetMM 07-17-2021 07:44 AM

Whenever I see a little white cross in an area that is not supposed to have items adorning their lawn I think There lives a good christian that says “screw the rules! I do what I want even if I said I would do something else! Who cares what Jesus said about letting your yes mean yes and your no mean no!”

daca55 07-17-2021 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 1974242)
There are deed restrictions which one should be aware before purchasing in TV. Comply with the restrictions.

That is it in a nutshell. If you buy a home in most parts of the Villages you sign a deed restriction that says you will have no ornaments on your lawns or yards. People who put things like crosses and flamingos in their yard are violating the deed restrictions they signed. Why is that so hard to understand?

graciegirl 07-17-2021 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rwirish (Post 1974242)
There are deed restrictions which one should be aware before purchasing in TV. Comply with the restrictions.

I think this is the message I would give.

And to those .......... Lay off the digs about religion. Not nice. Not caring of those who are religious..

We do not need to be so ugly to others. Just report their inappropriate yard ornaments and wave to them down the pew...if you go. If you don't. That's o.k. too. I am not in charge of the universe. We will see later if we meet again.

kenoc7 07-17-2021 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1973989)
When the space aliens take over the first thing they will do is round up the owners of the pink flamingos.

When the space aliens take over I hope the first thing they will do is round up the owners of the white crosses.

Spalumbos62 07-17-2021 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy1 (Post 1974309)
I see a pink flamingo as being warm and friendly, I see a little white cross as being judgmental. God loves us all.


I was told that the little white cross meant they loss someone. So death- not religion. Looking at it that way puts a whole new perspective.

Gizemo33 07-17-2021 09:08 AM

I am very grateful that Arlington cemetery and all the armed forces cemeteries are not located within the villages.

Gizemo33 07-17-2021 09:14 AM

I am all in for the church that serves marijuana. Thank you bro, see you there.

njbchbum 07-17-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1974419)
I was told that the little white cross meant they loss someone. So death- not religion. Looking at it that way puts a whole new perspective.

But it does not change the fact that the little white cross is still defined as a lawn ornament by community standards!

butlerism 07-17-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1973994)
I hope the Church of the Pink Flamingo uses Marijuana for communion and not crackers and wine - I am all in for that.

My Pink Flamingo doubles as a homing beacon for the mother ship

twinklesweep 07-17-2021 12:11 PM

Eir
 
My view is that this is a deed restriction issue, that I signed a covenant required when I bought my home here that I cannot display lawn ornaments. But I’m curious to understand the reasons for those violating the document we signed.

Are they so insecure about their religious beliefs that they feel that by making their personal issue public, it will give them a response from others that lets them feel that this feedback is what creates a true spiritual connection?

Or are they insecure not for issues of faith but rather their standing in the community that they feel by challenging the lawn ornament issue, they will be admired which in turn can soothe their ego?

Or are they people who, no matter what the issue, deliberately choose to do the opposite of expectation with no regard for support or feedback from others?

Or what are the other possibilities? I got a glimpse overhearing a conversation in which a little white cross/lawn ornament displayer was asked how they would feel about seeing displayed on lawns the symbols of other religions such as a Crescent for Moslems, a Star of David for Jews, the Universal symbol for Unitarians, a statue of Buddha, and more. The answer was that would not be the same thing. Why not? “Because we are a Christian nation!”

Huh? Is that like English is the official language of the U.S.? (I’m just comparing, not bringing up another subject.) I still don’t get it, but then again, curiosity aside, I don’t have to….

Incoblack1 07-17-2021 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by butlerism (Post 1974486)
My Pink Flamingo doubles as a homing beacon for the mother ship

The best looking neighborhoods don't allow lawn ornaments. Check it out! Those who want to flaunt their religion can do so with window decorations (which also don't look so great).

Djean1981 07-17-2021 12:41 PM

I don't get it either. I'm a Christian and have no urge to intentionally violate standard neighborhood rules. Items could be put on your car, porch, a necklace, etc. Why risk irking others in your community...

Two Bills 07-17-2021 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1974439)
I am very grateful that Arlington cemetery and all the armed forces cemeteries are not located within the villages.

Sorry, but I fail to see what your post has to do with deed restrictions.

JMintzer 07-17-2021 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by butlerism (Post 1974486)
My Pink Flamingo doubles as a homing beacon for the mother ship

I'm waiting for the resurrection of Devine...

https://live.staticflickr.com/4837/3...4fc58b06_b.jpg

VApeople 07-17-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizemo33 (Post 1974439)
I am very grateful that Arlington cemetery and all the armed forces cemeteries are not located within the villages.

I agree! If we had a military cemetery in The Villages, we would have a bunch of Wiccan symbols everywhere.

military cemetery wicca symbol - Yahoo Image Search Results

stebooo 07-17-2021 01:13 PM

Yours is a very sad comment

Byte1 07-17-2021 02:16 PM

"Rules are Rules"......and yet:
How many golf carts actually stop fully at a stop sign? None of the ones I have followed in the last 10 years in the Villages.
How many violations of real estate signs do you see every week?
How many open house sign violations do you see every week?
How many yard sale/garage sale signs do you see every week?
How many violations of landscaping rules do you see every week?
I could go on with the list.
The little bitty cross does not threaten me or insult me. Actually, I am glad when I see them, along with American flags flying. Since I have no intention of selling my home anytime soon, I guess I am not concerned about supposed threats to the worth of my property. I guess bragging rights mean a lot more to some than others. My house is worth $???K ....big deal.

Just keep your dam* dog off my grass! Otherwise, my two cents says that when I see a personalization of homes in a neighborhood, I know someone lives there and the house is not just a rental.

Yes, "rules are rules." Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

GOLFER54 07-17-2021 04:01 PM

I guess putting a 10 foot statue of Jesus on my front of lawn, will be out of the question.

golfing eagles 07-17-2021 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by twinklesweep (Post 1974536)
My view is that this is a deed restriction issue, that I signed a covenant required when I bought my home here that I cannot display lawn ornaments. But I’m curious to understand the reasons for those violating the document we signed.

Are they so insecure about their religious beliefs that they feel that by making their personal issue public, it will give them a response from others that lets them feel that this feedback is what creates a true spiritual connection?

Or are they insecure not for issues of faith but rather their standing in the community that they feel by challenging the lawn ornament issue, they will be admired which in turn can soothe their ego?

Or are they people who, no matter what the issue, deliberately choose to do the opposite of expectation with no regard for support or feedback from others?

Or what are the other possibilities? I got a glimpse overhearing a conversation in which a little white cross/lawn ornament displayer was asked how they would feel about seeing displayed on lawns the symbols of other religions such as a Crescent for Moslems, a Star of David for Jews, the Universal symbol for Unitarians, a statue of Buddha, and more. The answer was that would not be the same thing. Why not? “Because we are a Christian nation!”

Huh? Is that like English is the official language of the U.S.? (I’m just comparing, not bringing up another subject.) I still don’t get it, but then again, curiosity aside, I don’t have to….

Actually, the U.S, does not have an official language

golfing eagles 07-17-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1974599)
"Rules are Rules"......and yet:
How many golf carts actually stop fully at a stop sign? None of the ones I have followed in the last 10 years in the Villages.
How many violations of real estate signs do you see every week?
How many open house sign violations do you see every week?
How many yard sale/garage sale signs do you see every week?
How many violations of landscaping rules do you see every week?
I could go on with the list.
The little bitty cross does not threaten me or insult me. Actually, I am glad when I see them, along with American flags flying. Since I have no intention of selling my home anytime soon, I guess I am not concerned about supposed threats to the worth of my property. I guess bragging rights mean a lot more to some than others. My house is worth $???K ....big deal.

Just keep your dam* dog off my grass! Otherwise, my two cents says that when I see a personalization of homes in a neighborhood, I know someone lives there and the house is not just a rental.

Yes, "rules are rules." Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

About 10,000 as many as cyclists who stop:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer 07-17-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLFER54 (Post 1974624)
I guess putting a 10 foot statue of Jesus on my front of lawn, will be out of the question.

I'm going full Rio Jesus...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...e_Redeemer.jpg


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