Options for forward thinking, new age or holistic pain treatment - Not Pot please
 

I'm looking for recommendations for forward thinking, new age or holistic pain treatment options in The Villages. (not interested in pot)

Spinal compression issues and widespread nerve pain to be specific.

Much appreciated.

I highly recommend CBD oils as an alternative for pain management. CBD Oil is NOT pot or Marijuana.

I also recommend being very careful where you buy it, there are a lot of scams and not so "pure" oils available.

This is a link to one of the most positively reviewed companies in the business. Not the least expensive, but very high quality.

Young Living

I have already gone through many different companies and treatments using both pot and CBD. Did not work for me, so that's why I specified not interested.

I really need to find another option, but thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

I completely understand, and I am sorry CBD doesn't work for you. And I am sorry you are in pain.

Good luck.

I have not, but have you tried/considered acupuncture?

Mulberry Integrative Medicine
910 Old Camp Rd #192
352-430-2720

I personally would never recommend Young Living. They are primarily an essential oil company that has been sued several times and warned a few times as well by the FDA. They're also an MLM, which isn't bad in and of itself, but combined with the warnings of recommending that people INGEST essential oils (which is illegal to recommend)...

Their oils are mediocre, but insanely overpriced. They also don't include the source or process, which is super important if you're actually into aromatherapy. Example:

1/2 ounce lemon oil $15.79.
You can get lemon oil with the source country and process method listed at Walmart for $4.99

And 1/2 ounce at Oregon's Liberty Natural (a wholesaler, importer, packaging plant, and lavender growing farm) for $2.75, from citrus growers right here citrus-loving California. Organic lemon oil sells for $4.53 for a half ounce.

They are considered a bane to the industry, not a boon. They are one of two of the main companies that give aromatherapy a bad name.

If you want an aromatherapeutic treatment (not cure) for pain in your back, pinched nerves, you want a vasodilator. Commercial over the counter products would be Ben Gay, Icy Hot, Tiger Balm.

If you want to make your own and not spend a fortune, you'll make a massage oil.

Cut some rosemary leaves off one long stem, and break them off into a half-cup of olive oil. Add 1/4 teaspoon of red pepper seeds. If you have access to FRESH eucalyptus leaves, grab a palmful and rip them (don't cut them - you need to release the oils) into the oil. If you have access to freshly-removed white birch bark, break that up into small crumbs and toss that in there too.

Cover and let it sit on the counter, away from direct sunlight, for a couple of days.

Then strain it into a new container using cheesecloth as the strainer.

Now you can either use that by the dropful on the affected area, or mix it in to a 4-ounce container of body lotion (to yield 6 ounces total). Keep away from open orifices, wounds, pets, babies, and people with epilepsy.

Thank you for that information. I was not aware of the investigations. I was aware of their exorbitant pricing, and personally purchase my CBD from a company that was formed by a group that left Young Living and sell for market prices, and are completely open with their sourcing and testing.

I will stop recommending Young Living.

I have once in the past, but this is something I will reconsider. Thx much.

My doctor just gave me a referral. Thx so much!

I have severe lumbar osteoporosis, so my back hurts ALL THE TIME. I've tried epidurals and RF- radiofrequency ablation procedures, but they provided very short term relief. What I do these days is yoga daily, but I find greater relief from two things:
1) I have a vibrating chairback (that also heats/cools as I may choose) that helps keep my back loose and I do this a couple/few times a day for maybe 10 minutes each, and 2) don't laugh - a "Bed of Nails" accupressure mat that I lay atop a pillow and wedge it under my back for about 20 minutes a day. Both of those things help to decompress my back.

I really don't want drugs nor surgeries. I have looked at spinal implant vibrators (HF10, I think) and some people mention this on other threads. But I'm not ready for that yet either. So, my solution is cheap, durable and effective for me.
Good luck and God Bless.

I suggest reading the website doctor yourself. com

Look on the left side of the page and read everything that relates to yourself.

I take many nutraceuticals which help me. You may want to consider high dose vitamin B3 (niacinamide) and magnesium along with a high power multi -supplement.

Also something that's helped me TREMENDOUSLY - adding a lumbar pillow to the back of your golf cart seat. It doesn't have to be fancy, you can get one from Amazon for under $30 (A Samsonite one I see there is $19.99 and has really good ratings). No more pulling my right hip forward to reach the gas pedal, no need for a very cumbersome pedal block that forces you to lift your leg up pretty high when you need to step on the brake.

I have bursitis in my hip and shoulder, and osteoporosis in both hips and my spine, and I've been living with degenerative disk disease (L4 + L5-S1) for a little over 20 years now. So I'm somewhat familiar with back pain.

I got a thermal material lumbar pillow from Sleep Number for my dad, who's 90 and has trouble standing or sitting straight upright. He says it's helped him immensely.

I wouldn't ever recommend supplements to strangers, who have not been diagnosed by their own licensed medical practitioner with a deficiency. A multi vitamin is absolutely worthless to anyone who has no deficiencies, or even "low" levels of anything.

Most people are low or even deficient in vitamin D, and an OTC amount won't hurt them even if they're not low.

But niacinamide and magnesium can cause some pretty nasty unpleasant side effects for people who don't need it.

Youtube has tons of videos. I found one on regular physical therapy (Bob & Brad) exercises I found helpful for my shoulder. Watching that lead to a recommendation of a video on advanced soft tissue release which lead me to visit a local Myofascial Release therapist. I found some relief with one visit. I was also recommended a video for neck pain using the feldenkrais method. One feldenkrais exercise for 20 seconds each shoulder took my neck pain away - I was very surprised. TENS machines can be easily purchased, are reasonably priced, and can interrupt pain signals - helped me through an issue recently. There are ancient Chinese practices which I have witnessed working for some people like Meridian tapping and there is also Japanese Reiki. Keep watching and trying different things. Best wishes and be well!

You shouldn't use a TENs machine on the neck or shoulders (or eyes, genitals, over your heart, or on your scalp), and shouldn't use it at all if you have had cancer within the last five years. I used one when I had a broken arm and it seems to have helped a bit. Hard to tell though, if it was the machine, or if I would've healed fairly quickly anyway. It didn't hurt, and insurance covered it at the time though.

I finally remembered what the technique is called - I have wanted to try myself. It is called Rolfing - look it up. There is at least one practitioner in Orlando rolfingorlando.com

tried oil didn't do much
 

Where and what was your pain that it worked on? And which did you use?

what exactly is "forward-thinking"?

Did you actually get your medical marijuana card and go and actually speak to the customer service and white pain you’re going through and what you’re looking for and how to relieve that pain. You will not get a good relief of higher pain with over the counter oils. Have you looked into Microdosing mushrooms? Yoga is an other great way to reduce pain.

According to Wikipedia

Rolfing (/ˈrɔːlfɪŋ, ˈrɒl-/)[1] is a form of alternative medicine originally developed by Ida Rolf (1896–1979) as Structural Integration.[2][3] Rolfing is marketed with unproven claims of various health benefits.[4][5] It is based on Rolf's ideas about how the human body's "energy field" can benefit when aligned with the Earth's gravitational field.[6][7]

Rolfing is typically delivered as a series of ten hands-on physical manipulation sessions sometimes called "the recipe". Practitioners combine superficial and deep manual therapy with movement prompts.[8] The process is sometimes painful.[5] Studies have not proven that Rolfing is safe.[9]

The principles of Rolfing contradict established medical knowledge,[10] and there is no good evidence Rolfing is effective for the treatment of any health condition.[9] It is recognized as a pseudoscience[11] and has been characterized as quackery.[12][4]

I've heard very good things about the stretch zone located by Kohls from my customers

I completely understand, and I am sorry CBD doesn't work for you. And I am sorry you are in pain.


Wow, I have never seen that respect for others here on this forum. So mature. I love it.

I'm a huge believer in stretching. Epsom salt baths can also be a short term soother. Body pillow between the legs at night can really help too. I wish you well.

You have to be kidding. How about seeing a neurosurgeon or orthopedic spine surgeon and leave the quackery on the internet.

True, and also Vitamin D in excess of 5,000 I.U./day can start you on the road to very nasty renal calculi.

Try absorbine veterinary gel
 

I had knee surgery and the pain was about a constant 6 and if I got up a 10, I used CBD creams and drops (uggh) used prescription drugs but most made me drowsy, a friend recommended to try Absorbine Veterinary Gel, i was skeptic, but I had tried most all available, I was at Rural King buying their spring water and went by the horse stuff, and I found it, I purchased a container, again was skeptical, but I tried it, I was surprised at several things, it smelled wonderful, a really clean spearmint, put it on my knee and started to tingle, about 15 minutes later my constant pain went down to a 2 or 3, but when I got up which was really bad, it went down so it was manageable. I looked at the ingredients no drugs, nonprescription, over the counter, it has helped me a LOT, maybe it will help you too.

We have gotten great help from Dr. Gilliland's at Regenerative Therapy of Lady Lake's PEMF treatment.
352-268-0199 First treatment is free but reasonable/affordable after. Not a once and done type of situation but a series is needed. Many of our friends have tried it and each one has become a believer. He has powerful equipment and knows the art in using it. 510 CR 466 suite 201G (park in back - 2nd floor - elevator or stairs)

Mulberry Intragative Medicine. Very wonderful acupuncturist. 352-430-2720. 910 Old Camp Road Lake Sumter

What is the name of this company that branched off of Young Living?

Not surgery. Already had that. Not nerve blocks. Already had that. Not pot. Already tried that. Not nerve stimulators. Already did that.

Basically already did the traditional treatments many times over. I was requesting doctors who think beyond old school techniques and may have some progressive treatments.

Hi. I’m a holistic health and wellness coach and own Harvest Health. I work with many people with similar symptoms I typically recommend and make essential oil blends as well as lifestyle, nutrition and pain mgmt. i also teach classes.
I have 100% pure therapeutic Cbd balms and oils too. Have a lot of success if you are looking for natural health and would ever like to talk. Prayers for renewed strength and joy. Take care!

I sure did. Two different times.

I have allot of back issues, one thing that helps immensely is wearing shoes with fantastic arch support.
Gets everything in line the way it should be.

It seems to me that these kinds of alternative treatments should not be called forward thinking. IMHO, they are backward thinking and harken back to the days where herbs were thought to cure everything and treatments such as bleeding and blowing tobacco smoke up one's rectum were thought to be helpful.

So many advances have been made in medicine over the past century that have extend human life and eased pain and suffering I don't know why people would turn their backs on them.

I have some of the same issues. For me the best thing is movement. Tai Chi and or Qigong will definitely help a lot. There are several classes here in The Villages. Try Qigong at 1 pm Weds at Coconut Cove Rec Center and also at 9:30 am Friday at Colony Rec Center. But of course the key is you need to do some everyday and it takes a little while to start to feel the effects.
Also on YouTube there are many of these flow routines. Look for Lee Holden and David Dorian Ross, they are the best.

Well, you're welcome to your opinion. My experience and opinion is that I've had a lot of success with herbs, yoga, etc. and not so much with "modern medicine" on quite a few issues including my back. To each their own. Let the OP ask whatever they choose to ask.

doTERRA. And they're just as bad and in some cases, even worse.

Do you mean the Harvest Health cannabis dispensary in Gainseville? The OP has already been very clear and specific that he's not interested in cannabis or related products. Also, anyone can call themselves a health and wellness coach. Not sure why you say that, it has no significance.

-Love,
The Official Certified Wellness Expert of Wholeness

I, personally, would see Pain Management. I would recommend Shands Pain Management clinic to be considered for RFA (radio frequency ablation therapy). Shands is one of the finest hospitals and clinics in the country. I recently had RFA on my knee. After four surgeries on my left knee, the nerves were horribly inflamed. My surgeon, also from Shands, referred me to them. It has brought my pain level down 80% and I’m finally able to tolerate physical therapy. Unfortunately, the nerves grow back, but another treatment is all that is needed. Could last 6-12 months or more depending on ones situation. I won’t take opioids, or anything but Tylenol so I know for a fact this has greatly improved my quality of life. Good luck.

Not referencing the OP, but I find it interesting that so many people search for magic bullets and pixie dust while so few make lifestyle changes.