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jimmio 07-29-2021 12:36 PM

Mask or no mask?
 
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.

Boffin 07-29-2021 01:18 PM

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patfla06 07-29-2021 01:22 PM

I am still wearing a mask even though I’ve been vaccinated.
I stayed healthy doing so.

I do not listen to one word Fauci says.

Reiver 07-29-2021 02:34 PM

What? Parachutes stop Covid? I gotta get me one.

lkagele 07-29-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1980230)
I am still wearing a mask even though I’ve been vaccinated.
I stayed healthy doing so.

I do not listen to one word Fauci says.

I haven't worn a mask since I've been vaccinated.

I stayed healthy doing so.

I too don't listen to one word Fauci says and the CDC for that matter.

John41 07-29-2021 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 1980288)
I haven't worn a mask since I've been vaccinated.

I stayed healthy doing so.

I too don't listen to one word Fauci says and the CDC for that matter.

There was an interesting op ed in the NYT about the misinformation spread by Fauci. I’m vaxed so will believe the science that I’m protected and not wear a mask. A mask increases the carbon dioxide level in your system.

JoelJohnson 07-29-2021 03:53 PM

I could not join the military, but my wife and I got our shots to protect each other and our friends that refuse the vaccine. If you were in the military and do not get the vaccine then are you not willing to protect your fellow Americans like you were when you were in the military?

Mortal1 07-29-2021 04:43 PM

When I was in the military...
 
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Originally Posted by JoelJohnson (Post 1980308)
I could not join the military, but my wife and I got our shots to protect each other and our friends that refuse the vaccine. If you were in the military and do not get the vaccine then are you not willing to protect your fellow Americans like you were when you were in the military?

I joined voluntarily knowing they would inject me with all sorts of stuff. Since I am not any longer I have a choice. To say I wouldn't protect other Americans if I don't get the vaccine makes no sense since if you are afraid of getting the virus from those who haven't been vaccinated then just get vaccinated.

camaguey48 07-29-2021 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmio (Post 1980209)
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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.

No mask for me. I have the antibodies.

Mortal1 07-29-2021 04:50 PM

And yet...
 
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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1980230)
I am still wearing a mask even though I’ve been vaccinated.
I stayed healthy doing so.

I do not listen to one word Fauci says.

because you continue to wear a mask you'll never know if it has protected you in any way. There are many people who use their version of common sense. You've stayed healthy because of the vaccine...not the mask.

How do you explain the 10's of millions who have neither been vaccinated and don't wear a mask and still don't get sick????

I haven't had a flu shot in over 50 years and yet I haven't gotten the flu in all that time. I left New England over 8 years ago and while I used to get 2 or 3 colds a year I've yet to have one here in Florida. Please explain.

jimbomaybe 07-29-2021 05:02 PM

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I hope they don't go back to "lock down" I like going out to dinner once and a while!

CoachKandSportsguy 07-29-2021 05:30 PM

lets just say that the number of hospitalizations of people with the covid vaccine is higher than people generally believe because of lack of currently reported information. . . and yes, we have access to medical center information. . . we are vaccinated, and will wear a mask because:

we are not taking the risk of long covid, as its an unknown risk
we are not taking the risk so that we don't infect our < 1 year old nephews and <6 year grandchildren,
so that they don't risk get long covid. . . or any other unpredictable side effect

but all you posters with interwebs medical degrees know . . . covid started as a virus and has mutated to an IQ test

sportsguy

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-29-2021 05:50 PM

I'm fully vaccinated, AND I'm fine with getting another booster of the Pfizer if it ends up being recommended by the CDC.

I wore a mask for over a year partly because it was required, and partly because Dr. Fauci suggested that it would reduce the risk, and his explanation made sense.

I'll go back to wearing a mask if required, but I'm not interested in protecting people who COULD be vaccinated, but refuse. If I'm in a place where a mask is NOT required, then I won't mask up. And if you refused to get vaccinated and worry you might get COVID, then stay home.

If you WANT to be vaccinated but are medically unable, just let me know and I'll gladly put the mask back on to help protect you. I keep one in my purse.

davem4616 07-29-2021 08:47 PM

I no longer trust that my government is telling me the whole truth and nothing but the truth without any bias or hidden agenda

GrumpyOldMan 07-29-2021 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1980328)
I joined voluntarily knowing they would inject me with all sorts of stuff. Since I am not any longer I have a choice. To say I wouldn't protect other Americans if I don't get the vaccine makes no sense since if you are afraid of getting the virus from those who haven't been vaccinated then just get vaccinated.

It makes a lot of sense. Those who are not vaccinated are putting everyone else at risk because of mutations/variants that they will contribute when they get the virus. No, not 100% will, but some. And the more unvaccinated there are the more mutations there are and the more mutations there are the more people will die.

it is NOT a personal choice.

GrumpyOldMan 07-29-2021 08:51 PM

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I no longer trust that my government is telling me the whole truth and nothing but the truth without any bias or hidden agenda

So?

lkagele 07-29-2021 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1980388)
It makes a lot of sense. Those who are not vaccinated are putting everyone else at risk because of mutations/variants that they will contribute when they get the virus. No, not 100% will, but some. And the more unvaccinated there are the more mutations there are and the more mutations there are the more people will die.

it is NOT a personal choice.

Yes, it IS a personal choice. My body, my choice. That's what they say about abortion. Why doesn't that apply to the vaccine? I have no problem with your continued mask usage. Just don't try to impose your beliefs in that regard on me.

Aren't the variants originating in other countries? The Delta variant is more transmissible yet less deadly. That's typically how virus mutations work. Since I've been vaccinated and have some level of immunity, I'm not concerned about catching some future variation of this COVID. The risk is comparable to the risk I have catching the flu or the common cold.

Considering the # of citizens that have contracted the virus and have natural immunity plus the # that have been vaccinated; the US has to have the highest % of citizens that have some level of immunity. No data to back this up but I suspect the original flu was probably much more deadly that it is today. Eventually, populations developed immunities making the subsequent variations much less deadly. That's what is going to happen with COVID. I know this because I stayed in a Holiday Inn last week.......

thevillages2013 07-30-2021 05:10 AM

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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.

I feel that I am being oppressed by being asked to wear a mask! End oppression!

Blackbird45 07-30-2021 05:51 AM

When I was 17 and in boot camp for about 4 weeks someone in our barracks died from spinal meningitis. Over night we were isolated every time we left the barracks the camp looked like a ghost town. As dumb as I was then, that was a wakeup call. I'm fully vaccinated and if wearing a rag other my face gives me 1% more protection I will do so. Not to mention my 6 year old grandson is coming to visit in 2 weeks, there is no way I want to put him in danger of contracting this.

golfing eagles 07-30-2021 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 1980434)
When I was 17 and in boot camp for about 4 weeks someone in our barracks died from spinal meningitis. Over night we were isolated every time we left the barracks the camp looked like a ghost town. As dumb as I was then, that was a wakeup call. I'm fully vaccinated and if wearing a rag other my face gives me 1% more protection I will do so. Not to mention my 6 year old grandson is coming to visit in 2 weeks, there is no way I want to put him in danger of contracting this.

That "rag" on your face probably affords you zero additional protection since you were vaccinated, but it could save your unvaccinated grandson's life. I applaud your decision:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

WesMan 07-30-2021 06:03 AM

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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.

Flip-Flopper!!!!!!!!!

tklloop 07-30-2021 06:12 AM

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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.

Yeah,, get your REAL facts from Facebook! Some people just aren’t the sharpest knife in the drawer!

Bay Kid 07-30-2021 06:15 AM

Fauci is the reason but no investigation.

bilcon 07-30-2021 06:36 AM

We were going on a Celebrity cruise to Europe in September, and were just notified that we must wear masks on the ship except when eating, drinking or in our cabin. We must also wear masks when on tours. No thanks. Good bye cruise. We will wait. We both have had Covid-19 and since then have been vaccinated.

Ptmckiou 07-30-2021 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 1980425)
I feel that I am being oppressed by being asked to wear a mask! End oppression!

How YOU feel is under your control. No one can make you feel anything, but you. Don’t want to feel oppressed, then stop feeling oppressed. Mask or no mask. It’s just that simple. Just change your perspective.

frank1975 07-30-2021 06:52 AM

Here’s a shocker! If vaccinated you can still stay healthy NOT wearing a mask

Lazydaze 07-30-2021 06:56 AM

So much of this taken out of context....ridiculous posting!

Proveone 07-30-2021 07:12 AM

LAME! So you are using Facebook to try to make a point about face mask use. Sad! What you failed to do is show Dr. Fauci's comments based on what times during the pandemic. The existence of the variant and people not getting the vaccine has changed everything about when and wear to use a mask. Stop getting your info from fake sources!

You have no credibility.

Get real 07-30-2021 07:18 AM

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So?

So?

Blackbird45 07-30-2021 07:23 AM

Some people portray Fauci as a hero and some as a villain, he just a man grabbing a straws trying to save lives. I believe if anyone of us were in his position we would be doing the same. My only question for him is at his age and I’m sure he has enough money, why is he putting up with this nonsense.

Bob.Betty 07-30-2021 07:34 AM

I have not been vaccinated (and will not) I do not wear a mask (and will not) I am very healthy 65 yr old who simply beleives it is your choice.

Spalumbos62 07-30-2021 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortal1 (Post 1980332)
because you continue to wear a mask you'll never know if it has protected you in any way. There are many people who use their version of common sense. You've stayed healthy because of the vaccine...not the mask.

How do you explain the 10's of millions who have neither been vaccinated and don't wear a mask and still don't get sick????

I haven't had a flu shot in over 50 years and yet I haven't gotten the flu in all that time. I left New England over 8 years ago and while I used to get 2 or 3 colds a year I've yet to have one here in Florida. Please explain.


The info on the news seems to go back and forth about requiring the mask. Soooo many people especially in Southern states are getting it, yes, mostly nonvaxed. I predict that they will go back to mandatory mask very,very soon and hopefully mandatory vac. It's a shame that wasn't done months ago, and we wouldn't be in this mess.
I truly believe the surge in cases and quickness of spread has taken the CDC by surprise. And not only are they back pedaling, they are very concerned it is getting out of control.
So, great for those who have vexed, not good for others and hopefully everyone will wear a mask, for that extra layer.

Eg_cruz 07-30-2021 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 1980331)
No mask for me. I have the antibodies.

Again how did you get the antibodies

Spalumbos62 07-30-2021 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 1980405)
Yes, it IS a personal choice. My body, my choice. That's what they say about abortion. Why doesn't that apply to the vaccine? I have no problem with your continued mask usage. Just don't try to impose your beliefs in that regard on me.

Aren't the variants originating in other countries? The Delta variant is more transmissible yet less deadly. That's typically how virus mutations work. Since I've been vaccinated and have some level of immunity, I'm not concerned about catching some future variation of this COVID. The risk is comparable to the risk I have catching the flu or the common cold.

Considering the # of citizens that have contracted the virus and have natural immunity plus the # that have been vaccinated; the US has to have the highest % of citizens that have some level of immunity. No data to back this up but I suspect the original flu was probably much more deadly that it is today. Eventually, populations developed immunities making the subsequent variations much less deadly. That's what is going to happen with COVID. I know this because I stayed in a Holiday Inn last week.......


People like you are making the undertakers rich!

ThirdOfFive 07-30-2021 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lkagele (Post 1980405)
Yes, it IS a personal choice. My body, my choice. That's what they say about abortion. Why doesn't that apply to the vaccine? I have no problem with your continued mask usage. Just don't try to impose your beliefs in that regard on me.

Aren't the variants originating in other countries? The Delta variant is more transmissible yet less deadly. That's typically how virus mutations work. Since I've been vaccinated and have some level of immunity, I'm not concerned about catching some future variation of this COVID. The risk is comparable to the risk I have catching the flu or the common cold.

Considering the # of citizens that have contracted the virus and have natural immunity plus the # that have been vaccinated; the US has to have the highest % of citizens that have some level of immunity. No data to back this up but I suspect the original flu was probably much more deadly that it is today. Eventually, populations developed immunities making the subsequent variations much less deadly. That's what is going to happen with COVID. I know this because I stayed in a Holiday Inn last week.......

Excellent post! Yes, it is and must remain a PERSONAL choice. No one gets to decide about my body but me. That's how it works in America. And that's how it will continue to work.

Point two of your post: that viruses (virii?) mutate over time to become less deadly is true as well. That much was proven when Europeans first had contact with the indigenous peoples over here. More indigenous people died of the diseases the Europeans brought than were ever outright killed by the Europeans--an estimated 55 million, or some 90% of the indigenous peoples. The Taino people were basically wiped out. Some of those diseases, such as cholera and smallpox, were major-league killers, but more probably died from diseases such as measles, chicken pox, and the flu--diseases that were for the most part inconveniences to the Europeans. No one doubts why: those "inconvenient" diseases were inconvenient because over the centuries the viruses had mutated into something that was very contagious but, to the Europeans, not very deadly. Once they got it and recovered, they were for the most part immune. Not so with the Taino and the other indigenous peoples. Those "inconvenient" diseases killed them like flies.

It looks more and more that that is exactly what is happening to COVID. The variant cases we've seen to date seem more transmissible but far less deadly. Mother Nature knows what she is doing.

Bella6368 07-30-2021 07:48 AM

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This should clear it up. Straight out of the contradicting leader of the Covid fight, Dr. Fauci.

Fauci is far more of an "Establishment" figure than a doctor. Can't be trusted. He has done nothing but flip flop on everything he says.

Spalumbos62 07-30-2021 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Proveone (Post 1980484)
LAME! So you are using Facebook to try to make a point about face mask use. Sad! What you failed to do is show Dr. Fauci's comments based on what times during the pandemic. The existence of the variant and people not getting the vaccine has changed everything about when and wear to use a mask. Stop getting your info from fake sources!

You have no credibility.


It boggles the mind how ridged some people are in their reasoning. Yes fauci said no mask, then mask, then probably no mask again....I don't know anymore...it doesn't matter. He is a source, not the answer AND the reasons for wearing have change throughout. But that is ok, because right now...at this stage of the virus they want a mask...for you!...for me..for our kids.
Stop wasting your energy bi#&hing about what fauci said months ago, move on and do what's right. COVER THAT FACE! Before dirt does it for you.

ritafricke 07-30-2021 07:50 AM

I trust my God-given immune system. I take vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc and quercetin. If I get Covid, I feel confident that I would recover from it, and if I don't, I'm OK with that. There are two great methods of early treatment, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. There is no reason to wear a mask, as the virus is much smaller than the mask. It's like putting up a chain-link fence to keep the mosquitoes out. Besides, I like to breathe.

Blackbird45 07-30-2021 07:50 AM

I agree it is your choice, but if you do get sick you should allow the care giver the choice to treat you or not. Why should they risk their lives to save yours?

Spalumbos62 07-30-2021 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bob.betty (Post 1980505)
i have not been vaccinated (and will not) i do not wear a mask (and will not) i am very healthy 65 yr old who simply beleives it is your choice.

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