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Deer in US have COVID antibodies
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Not to worry. Deer do social distancing with humans.
Methinks some look to hard for problems!:icon_wink: |
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Maybe they were smarter than some people and got the vaccine:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: |
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Nothing to do with half a million dead in US. |
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I actually respect several people that post here regularly. They bring up very valid alternative interpretations of things. That expands my awareness. BTW, on the same idea, Lake Tahoe has been closed due to Plague being found in rodents. Should we ignore that also? |
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You won, that is by far the BEST post I have ever read on TOTV! :bigbow: |
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Not all of Lake Tahoe is closed, it isn't expected to be closed for long, and it isn't due to infected humans. So temporary closures due to plague in chipmunks in Lake Tahoe is something to be aware of if you are planning to be in the area but it isn't a life changing event and isn't even a concern for the vast majority of us. |
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It’s time to mount a campaign, anything that moves should be vaccinated! (That includes equipment, you never know...)
Maybe we could give all the animals a $5,000. incentive. |
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let me remind you this is an animal's disease. the covid shot has been available for dogs (not sure cats) for as long as i can remember. it hits certain breeds more than others, esp. rottweilers, but this pug gets the shot each year along with the distemper shot. vets say it's picked up from the ground, 1 vet i knew even told us it was 'in the air', like some sort of mystical being, lol. do not be alarmed.
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Hantavirus and plague are not the same. One is a virus, and like almost all viruses there is no "antidote". Plague is a bacterial disease and is effectively treated with antibiotics if recognized. Both illnesses have rodents as their hosts and are mostly found in western states. And on topic, the spread to deer of Covid could make it more difficult to control. Covid has shown itself to spread easily and to mutate frequently. All our vaccines available to date target specific characteristics of the unique spike protein, and they do a great job of that. However, with billions of copies of Covid being reproduced there will be more mutations. Most mutations are of no evolutionary advantage. Some however produce a change which alters the virus in a way that may make it more contagious or reproduce more efficiently, or of greatest concern, alter the structure of the spike protein in a way that the antibodies induced by the vaccine, or previous natural infection, make the new virus unrecognized. We will see the vaccine industry working hard to manufacture updated products to keep up with alterations in the circulating variants. If you want to worry, read about the lambda variant. It is too soon for a definitive scientific statement, but early reports suggest it produces a spike protein that is significantly resistant to the vaccine. Hopefully those early reports will be wrong. The other take home message is that Covid is entirely able to mutate to have new pathological types on its own in animals whether humans, or deer, or bats or pangolins. |
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Thanks for the clarification about the Hantavirus. I recall several cases of that in Colorado and New Mexico, as you said, transmitted by mice. I think the Hantavirus can be serious or even deadly if not diagnosed properly. |
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Typically all drives go though years of testing in various situations (including on humans) in lab controlled conditions - this is real life experimental testing. I think we've all been alive long enough to know "too good to be true" usually has a cliff attached to it. There are better topics than C19, heck I don't remember this much posting over Flu type A when it was taking out people left and right..... not a peep. |
Good post I learned something.
Unfortunately some people just don’t know how to be nice and post some ugly things . Just have to ignore them . I hope I don’t ever meet them . |
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There is reliable proof all around that the vaccine is effective. Hospitals are filling around the country with unvaccinated individuals. The number of daily deaths has almost doubled and over 90% are unvaccinated individuals. What more proof can you ask for? "there are no guarantees than those vaccinated in 3 years..." There are no guarantees in life. I could say there are no guarantees that unvaccinated exposure to the virus won't lead to long-term effects that appear in another eight months. The virus is intended to kill us and has already taken 613,000 people. Do you really want to say, "well I'll take my chances that it fails?" The vaccine is designed to keep us alive and has proven to be safe and effective for over 190 million in the US alone. Do you really want to say, "well I read something on facebook that I believe more than the scientists, the reporters, the hospitals, my friends, and my own eyes?" |
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A single, two week sampling in a single county with multiple large gatherings showed that 74% of the positive COVID tests (and "cases" if you consider a test=a case) were among the vaccinated. That was a blurb and then repeated by Walensky from the CDC. However, what percentage of the crowd was vaccinated? If it was 100% then 100% of the "cases" would have been vaccinated. If it was 0%, then 0% of the "cases" would have been vaccinated. So without knowing that percentage, the statement is meaningless and I'm surprised the CDC even mentioned it much less make a big deal out of it and change recommendations. What is more important is that out of all the hospitalizations during that time, only 4 people were vaccinated. And on this mornings local news, out of 1060 hospitalized COVID patients in the Orlando Advent Health System, 96% were UNvaccinated. |
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Would you feel the same if someone sneezed on your and a couple of days later you had a heart attack? Minimalizing a half million deaths like this that are preventable is not acceptable to me. Heart attacks and other non-contagious causes of death are bad and most preventable to some degree, but you cannot kill me with a heart attack by simply sneezing on me. The treatment for heart attacks does not have to change because there is a breakout of a new variant of heart attacks in other countries. It is like comparing crayons and cream soda. |
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I completely agree with your post, except I would prefer people stop using the US death count and start using the world death count of 4.25 million deaths. And even more important is the worldwide case count - since the more people that get COVID the more it mutates. This is a pandemic, it is not a local (to the US) outbreak. We certainly need to focus on getting our own house in order, but we also need to be very aware that the spread of COVID around the world will also result in Americans dying. |
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As far as preventable deaths, 440,000 deaths every year are smoking related. 44,000 are from second hand smoke… For only one year has Covid outpaced smoking related deaths. Where is the outrage? Are those deaths “minimalized”? |
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wouldn't it be great if they found out that those pesky lovebugs also had the antibodies...at least then I'd feel confident that my windshield would be safe from the delta virus....well, maybe not until we'd been through the second lovebug season though :icon_wink: |
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