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Bay Kid 09-15-2021 06:06 AM

Made in America
 
Do we make anything in America anymore? Seems like everything is made in other countries.

DAIII 09-15-2021 06:09 AM

As far as vehicles go--

Tesla- made in America. (parts and software)

JMintzer 09-15-2021 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DAIII (Post 2004149)
As far as vehicles go--

Tesla- made in America. (parts and software)

"Assembly" has nothing to do with the parts country of origin...

Toymeister 09-15-2021 06:56 AM

Yes but we have become accustomed to cheap products and have become used to products that break.

Example: retractable cord reels. Those extension cords that hang high in the garage/shop ready to power any tool. Chinese made (home Depot) 79.00 to 129.00.

US made (ReelCraft brand) 349.00.

I have American made ones, it's one less item to fail. Mathematically it is foolish. The pain of buying quality is felt once. Breakdowns are felt repeatedly.

villagetinker 09-15-2021 07:28 AM

If you type in 'made in america products' you will get several sites that will answer your question, I was trying to give you a website that I get a newsletter from on typically a monthly basis, I did not see it but will post if I can find an old email. To answer your question YES, I especially like Leatherman products.

retiredguy123 09-15-2021 07:55 AM

FYI, a lot of clothing is labeled as "Made in USA" in violation of the FTC rules. If the clothing fabric was imported, which most of it is, the clothing should be labeled "Made in USA with imported fabric".

tvbound 09-15-2021 07:59 AM

"Made in America" purchases will only come back in vogue, when people are willing to pay more (often a LOT more) for essentially the same products. It's simply common sense, that if you're paying employees more - then the cost of the goods or services will most likely be more. In essence, we have only ourselves to blame for the amount of foreign made services/goods, when we prioritize price. The ultimate irony being, that those foreign countries making so many of our products are simply trying to follow the old American model - of creating a burgeoning middle class/strong economy.

PugMom 09-15-2021 08:45 AM

exactly, US made costs more, but you do feel better using it. i threw away all our cookware not made in usa, -it was a tiny fortune replacing it, but knowing the risk of teflon poisoning has been eliminated makes it worth the cost. :coolsmiley:

blueash 09-15-2021 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2004289)
exactly, US made costs more, but you do feel better using it. i threw away all our cookware not made in usa, -it was a tiny fortune replacing it, but knowing the risk of teflon poisoning has been eliminated makes it worth the cost. :coolsmiley:

Please teach me about the risk of teflon poisoning which is so significant you threw away all your cookware. Teflon of course is a product brought to you by good old American industry and ingenuity.
By the way, I am a human not a bird.

jdulej 09-15-2021 09:28 AM

I try to follow this hierarchy, but it's not always easy

Made in USA by a USA based company, not owned by a Chinese company (there are a lot of these)
Made in USA (USA workers, don't care where the profits go)
Made in Mexico or Central America (keep people working there)
Made in Third World country not China
Made in other First World countries (Europe, Japan, etc)
Made in China

I sometimes also chase down where all the parts are made, but there are only 24 hrs in a day

alwann 09-15-2021 09:34 AM

Made here
 
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2004145)
Do we make anything in America anymore? Seems like everything is made in other countries.

Well, many brands of beer are still brewed in the U.S. And that's nice.

frose 09-15-2021 09:36 AM

we don't even make americans in america anymore, just socialists and marxist wanna be's.. such a shame.

Road-Runner 09-15-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jdulej (Post 2004317)
I try to follow this hierarchy, but it's not always easy

Made in USA by a USA based company, not owned by a Chinese company (there are a lot of these)
Made in USA (USA workers, don't care where the profits go)
Made in Mexico or Central America (keep people working there)
Made in Third World country not China
Made in other First World countries (Europe, Japan, etc)
Made in China

I sometimes also chase down where all the parts are made, but there are only 24 hrs in a day

Great list, I would add (and only if I can't do without it) to your Made in China line. Of course, when 90+% of all pharmaceuticals are made in China it's tough to enforce.

Topspinmo 09-15-2021 01:10 PM

America was sold out in mid 60’s where we allowed metric crap from south America, it steadily got worse. When EPA lowered boom CEO’s just moved production out of country with no repercussions. Polit—- got richer and working man got poorer. Now we are country of imports and handouts all to support career ******. (Fill in word that makes you feel good)

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-15-2021 01:18 PM

I am anti-isolationist. So I don't really care which country makes a thing, or which country makes a part of a thing that was used to make a thing. I care if it's a) something I actually want, b) affordable compared to similar things, c) readily available, d) of a measure of quality that meets or exceeds minimum standards, which depends entirely on what the thing is.

If my plastic credit card was made with petroleum imported from Saudi Arabia, I'm not going to refuse to use the credit card. In fact, my "care-o-meter" level of the country of origin of that plastic is at 1, only because there is no 0 on the care-o-meter.

If your car was made completely 100% in the USA, but all the machinery in the manufacturer's shop that is used to make the car was made in another country, would you care? No, scratch that. DO you even know what country the screws on the paint machine were made in? No, no you don't. You have no idea where those drills and paint machines and tire-pressure-gauges and whatever else is used to make a car, came from. Nor do you care.

And have you been into a Tesla plant lately, to make sure that all the employees were "made in America?" How many of them were "imported" and are citizens here, but born somewhere else? Have you checked? Have you cared enough to even wonder? Of course you haven't.

So - your "care" of the country of origin is noted. And insignificant.

Kelevision 09-15-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2004145)
Do we make anything in America anymore? Seems like everything is made in other countries.

I don’t really care where it’s made as long as it’s good quality.

Arctic Fox 09-15-2021 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2004145)
Do we make anything in America anymore? Seems like everything is made in other countries.

The USA is the World's third largest exporter - a fact often missed when we concentrate just on foreign-produced stuff that we buy.

It is also a net exporter of food (importing less than 15% of what we consume).

JMintzer 09-15-2021 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2004191)
Yes but we have become accustomed to cheap products and have become used to products that break.

Example: retractable cord reels. Those extension cords that hang high in the garage/shop ready to power any tool. Chinese made (home Depot) 79.00 to 129.00.

US made (ReelCraft brand) 349.00.

I have American made ones, it's one less item to fail. Mathematically it is foolish. The pain of buying quality is felt once. Breakdowns are felt repeatedly.

Yup! Buy once, cry once...

JMintzer 09-15-2021 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alwann (Post 2004321)
Well, many brands of beer are still brewed in the U.S. And that's nice.

And Bourbon Whiskey...

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-15-2021 03:46 PM

There are plenty of imported goods that are superior to domestic products, and there are plenty of imported products that aren't made in China. I'm fine with either Vermont or Canadian maple syrup, though I prefer Vermont. But Canadian is cheaper. If I can't have real actual maple syrup, I won't put ANY syrup on my pancakes at all. In fact when I eat at IHOP I don't use syrup, I just put butter on the pancakes.

When I'm in the mood for Chinese food, I trust the Chinese to know best how to make it, over an American.

Most American crossover SUVs are crap, and their warranties are crap. If I'm gonna get a crappy SUV, I'd rather pay a lot less, for a much better warranty, and get a Kia Soul - made in South Korea.

If I'm looking for a luxury car, I'd probably go for German or British engineering.

For my smoked salmon, I want it from Nova Scotia, Canada.

Bath towels? They can be made in the middle of the Atlantic ocean on an oil barge from Zimbabwe for all I care. If they keep me dry and don't stain my laundry purple they're fine.

Anyone who thinks caviar is the epitome of sophistication would probably laugh at you if you suggested that American caviar was better in any way, shape, or form, than Beluga caviar from Russia. And unless your idea of a fur coat is grand-dad's racoon hat and a couple fox tails from them that tried killin our hens in the back yard, you'll want your furs imported as well.

Some things are just flat out better if they're imported. Some, not so much. But to think that only Americans can make stuff good, is foolish, wasteful, and - xenophobic.



Xenophobia is not attractive. It's also counter-productive.

Velvet 09-15-2021 03:53 PM

Wine, Napa wine definitely made in USA.

OrangeBlossomBaby 09-15-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2004483)
Wine, Napa wine definitely made in USA.

I kind of like Meiomi's Pinot Noir. California, semi-sweet red. Very fruity. Other than Manschewitz Concord Grape, New York vineyards, I don't really like wine at all.

I like my rum Puerto Rican (which is to say, American).

I like my chocolate liqueur imported from Italy (Meletti is the brand).

Most bananas sold in the USA (including those sold in Florida supermarkets) are grown in Guatemala, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Columbia, and Honduras.

EVEN THOUGH Florida is one of the top 2 banana growers in the USA.

Florida does not value "home grown" at all; even during the season, orange prices are no better here than they are back home in New England and even though tomato plants can thrive for most of the year, most of the tomatoes you get at the supermarket are from somewhere other than Florida.

For all the talk of "Made in America" there are just way too many people who make a lot of noise - but don't walk the talk.

wlasowicz 09-15-2021 07:05 PM

weathertec car floor mats are made in the US not sure about the material that use to make where that comes from.

Topspinmo 09-15-2021 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2004419)
I am anti-isolationist. So I don't really care which country makes a thing, or which country makes a part of a thing that was used to make a thing. I care if it's a) something I actually want, b) affordable compared to similar things, c) readily available, d) of a measure of quality that meets or exceeds minimum standards, which depends entirely on what the thing is.

If my plastic credit card was made with petroleum imported from Saudi Arabia, I'm not going to refuse to use the credit card. In fact, my "care-o-meter" level of the country of origin of that plastic is at 1, only because there is no 0 on the care-o-meter.

If your car was made completely 100% in the USA, but all the machinery in the manufacturer's shop that is used to make the car was made in another country, would you care? No, scratch that. DO you even know what country the screws on the paint machine were made in? No, no you don't. You have no idea where those drills and paint machines and tire-pressure-gauges and whatever else is used to make a car, came from. Nor do you care.

And have you been into a Tesla plant lately, to make sure that all the employees were "made in America?" How many of them were "imported" and are citizens here, but born somewhere else? Have you checked? Have you cared enough to even wonder? Of course you haven't.

So - your "care" of the country of origin is noted. And insignificant.

But. Will you care when robots eliminates cashiers jobs? Well, not now right?

Topspinmo 09-15-2021 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2004525)
I kind of like Meiomi's Pinot Noir. California, semi-sweet red. Very fruity. Other than Manschewitz Concord Grape, New York vineyards, I don't really like wine at all.

I like my rum Puerto Rican (which is to say, American).

I like my chocolate liqueur imported from Italy (Meletti is the brand).

Most bananas sold in the USA (including those sold in Florida supermarkets) are grown in Guatemala, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Columbia, and Honduras.

EVEN THOUGH Florida is one of the top 2 banana growers in the USA.

Florida does not value "home grown" at all; even during the season, orange prices are no better here than they are back home in New England and even though tomato plants can thrive for most of the year, most of the tomatoes you get at the supermarket are from somewhere other than Florida.

For all the talk of "Made in America" there are just way too many people who make a lot of noise - but don't walk the talk.


Most of Florida oranges comes from California due to orange tree plague last 20 years.

Topspinmo 09-15-2021 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wlasowicz (Post 2004534)
weathertec car floor mats are made in the US not sure about the material that use to make where that comes from.


Crude oil.

GrumpyOldMan 09-15-2021 08:40 PM

Well, my take is that we have prayed at the god of money for many decades. We raised our children to dream of getting rich and retiring early. EVERYTHING in this country is about making a fast buck. Bill Maher had a good "New Rules" last week pointing out how it is almost impossible to get any big projects done in this country because everyone wants to make some "under the table".

A lot of people blame outsourcing, but the fact is American's are addicted to cheap. Wall Street demands companies make quarterly goals that are set by money managers who have never worked for a living. Let a company miss money managers projections and the company's stock will tank. Not because the company did something wrong, BUt, because what they did right was not what the money manager wanted them to do.

Personally, I think most of our country's "issues" at this moment all have a root cause of making fast easy money no matter what the cost to our country.

GrumpyOldMan 09-15-2021 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2004525)
I kind of like Meiomi's Pinot Noir. California, semi-sweet red. Very fruity. Other than Manschewitz Concord Grape, New York vineyards, I don't really like wine at all.

I like my rum Puerto Rican (which is to say, American).

I like my chocolate liqueur imported from Italy (Meletti is the brand).

Most bananas sold in the USA (including those sold in Florida supermarkets) are grown in Guatemala, Ecuador, Costa Rica, Columbia, and Honduras.

EVEN THOUGH Florida is one of the top 2 banana growers in the USA.

Florida does not value "home grown" at all; even during the season, orange prices are no better here than they are back home in New England and even though tomato plants can thrive for most of the year, most of the tomatoes you get at the supermarket are from somewhere other than Florida.

For all the talk of "Made in America" there are just way too many people who make a lot of noise - but don't walk the talk.

Yup, true. And with intercontinental commerce on the rise, we can not compete. We need to rethink what we do and how we do it. I personally think Elon Musk is showing us the way. His competitors around the globe (space, cars, etc) are trying to figure out how to catch up, and lots of negative misinformation is spread about him and his companies because they can't compete with the truth. He does crazy sh!t and does it faster and better than anyone. He is not motivated at getting rich, all his profits go into his pet project (SpaceX to Mars Colony). He wants to make things better for others.

A long time ago, people worked hard, saved, and tried to make a better life for their kids. It seems that is no longer a trendy thing to do. Today is "I got mine, screw you".

Billy1 09-16-2021 05:11 AM

Americans should be willing to pay what ever price American manufacturers want to charge, patriotism.

rlcooper70 09-16-2021 05:30 AM

You are now seeing that manufacturing is moving back to the US in some fields .. automation makes it cheap enough anywhere. And we have seen supply chain disruptions get the attention of our leaders finally. Intel is building a $30 billion manufacturing plant for high end chips because we are worried China will take over Taiwan where all the high end chips are made. You will see changes over the next few years and globalization and monopolization is being questioned.

tvbound 09-16-2021 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 2004572)
Well, my take is that we have prayed at the god of money for many decades. We raised our children to dream of getting rich and retiring early. EVERYTHING in this country is about making a fast buck. Bill Maher had a good "New Rules" last week pointing out how it is almost impossible to get any big projects done in this country because everyone wants to make some "under the table".

A lot of people blame outsourcing, but the fact is American's are addicted to cheap. Wall Street demands companies make quarterly goals that are set by money managers who have never worked for a living. Let a company miss money managers projections and the company's stock will tank. Not because the company did something wrong, BUt, because what they did right was not what the money manager wanted them to do.

Personally, I think most of our country's "issues" at this moment all have a root cause of making fast easy money no matter what the cost to our country.


"the fact is American's are addicted to cheap."


Therein lies the crux of the problem, of trying to buy American.

We're fortunate to be able to afford the 'almost always' higher prices, but all too many fellow citizens (e.g.- working poor)- aren't so lucky.

Arctic Fox 09-16-2021 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2004567)
Will you care when robots eliminates cashiers jobs? Well, not now right?

As rlcooper70 says, robots are doing more and more factory jobs so, with labor costs being the biggest reason why US products tend to cost more than those made overseas, you will soon be able to Buy American AND have fewer Americans employed in manufacturing.

banjobob 09-16-2021 06:22 AM

Long live Walmart “the China merchant “

Nick B 09-16-2021 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2004145)
Do we make anything in America anymore? Seems like everything is made in other countries.

Just noticed that? It's been that way for 30 years.

rpcurt 09-16-2021 06:43 AM

rpc
 
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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2004145)
Do we make anything in America anymore? Seems like everything is made in other countries.

Boeing is the largest US manufacturing exporter. We also, thanks to Pres Trump, have become the world's largest producer of oil and gas, which we export.
True, we lost hundreds of manufacturers during the Obama years...recall Obama saying 'manufacturing will never return to the US'.
Intellectual property is a huge product for the US.
But here is a crazy example: golf balls. COSTCO makes its Kirkland golf balls in China. Why? Making golf balls is not a labor-intensive process, but somehow it makes economic sense for COSTCO to make them in China and pay to ship them to the US. The raw materials cost the same in US, manufacturing machines cost the same, labor costs are low.
So what is different? Taxes, regulations (like OSHA, etc.), ease of doing business.

Larchap49 09-16-2021 07:13 AM

Mia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 2004145)
Do we make anything in America anymore? Seems like everything is made in other countries.

It's only going to get worse. I'm not going to say why because surely it would be flagged as political.

Larchap49 09-16-2021 07:19 AM

MIA products
 
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Originally Posted by tvbound (Post 2004249)
"Made in America" purchases will only come back in vogue, when people are willing to pay more (often a LOT more) for essentially the same products. It's simply common sense, that if you're paying employees more - then the cost of the goods or services will most likely be more. In essence, we have only ourselves to blame for the amount of foreign made services/goods, when we prioritize price. The ultimate irony being, that those foreign countries making so many of our products are simply trying to follow the old American model - of creating a burgeoning middle class/strong economy.

There is a much clearer explanation than just pay rates but if details were put here it would be flagged political so NO COMMENT

NoMo50 09-16-2021 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by rpcurt (Post 2004667)
COSTCO makes its Kirkland golf balls in China.

While your overall point has merit, some clarification is in order: Costco doesn't "make" anything. They have manufacturing/licensing agreements with hundreds of manufacturers, and then put the Kirkland brand name on the product. Most of the Kirkland brand products are made by well known manufacturers, many of which are in the USA. Those Kirkland AA and AAA batteries you see at Costco at great prices are actually made by Duracell. The Kirkland golf balls are (or at least were) made by Callaway (Costco has a long relationship with Callaway). In fact, roughly 90% of premium golf balls are made in the USA...in 3 states (Massachusetts, Georgia and South Carolina).

Larchap49 09-16-2021 07:27 AM

Wow
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2004419)
I am anti-isolationist. So I don't really care which country makes a thing, or which country makes a part of a thing that was used to make a thing. I care if it's a) something I actually want, b) affordable compared to similar things, c) readily available, d) of a measure of quality that meets or exceeds minimum standards, which depends entirely on what the thing is.

If my plastic credit card was made with petroleum imported from Saudi Arabia, I'm not going to refuse to use the credit card. In fact, my "care-o-meter" level of the country of origin of that plastic is at 1, only because there is no 0 on the care-o-meter.

If your car was made completely 100% in the USA, but all the machinery in the manufacturer's shop that is used to make the car was made in another country, would you care? No, scratch that. DO you even know what country the screws on the paint machine were made in? No, no you don't. You have no idea where those drills and paint machines and tire-pressure-gauges and whatever else is used to make a car, came from. Nor do you care.

And have you been into a Tesla plant lately, to make sure that all the employees were "made in America?" How many of them were "imported" and are citizens here, but born somewhere else? Have you checked? Have you cared enough to even wonder? Of course you haven't.

So - your "care" of the country of origin is noted. And insignificant.

And that is why we are where we are, because you are certainly a part of the majority. Sad but true

Larchap49 09-16-2021 07:29 AM

Mia
 
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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 2004425)
The USA is the World's third largest exporter - a fact often missed when we concentrate just on foreign-produced stuff that we buy.

It is also a net exporter of food (importing less than 15% of what we consume).

Yes but the trade agreements are exceptionally lopsided


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