United Airlines in the news
 

I saw today on the news that nearly 99% of United Airlines employees are vaccinated for Covid. Now we are getting somewhere. The airline is mandating vaccines for their employees. It can be done!

That is great news. Thanks for posting it.

So? They still can get Covid and shed it, more specifically the variant which they have limited immunity against. So that's what drives the infection rate higher. Only one strain is being shed by those vaccinated driving up the infection rate for all. Not the unvaccinated who can get and shed both strains of the virus which actually weakens it and reduces transmission.

It's easier to address a Labor Grievance than a Wrongful Death Lawsuit!

Are you saying it is the vaccinated whot are driving this pandemic at this point, not the un-vaccinated? If this were the case, why then are we all being encouraged by the experts to get vaccinated?

Do you have a link that verifies what you have said? I would like to read about it and not just take your word for it. Seems very counter productive for the big push for everyone to be vaccinated.

Looks like ~600 United employees are being terminated for not getting the vaccine.

United firing nearly 600 employees over vaccines - Chicago Sun-Times

One advantage to having all the employees vaccinated is lower medical costs, leading to lower insurance rates. Another is fewer sick days, enabling them to better-schedule workers.

Vaccinated employees most likely will not require hospitalization if and when they test positive. That is a huge incentive for companies to mandate vaccinations, especially for companies that are self insured.

Coffeebean There comes a time when you must just quit debating an issue and let the other party be wrong.

Good for them.

Fired for refusing the Mark of the Beast? :ohdear:

Hopefully, you're just being facetious in an attempt to be funny? LOL

Fired for not conforming to rules the company set for employees. Simple as that. It’s the American way - get used to it

The sad thing is that the same logic can be used with pistols and any number of ideas which they want. It just might be a can of worms that all of us will disagree with sooner or later. They can fine us and withdraw our funds with no trouble. Maybe soon we will get speeding tickets on I-75 in the mail or a text. It may say $200 has been withdrawn for doing 70 mph in a 55 On 29 September 2021 at 1842 hours

Believe it or not, company "rules" are not ironclad directives and have been challenged successfully in the court, even at the Supreme Court. Company rules can sometimes be unconstitutional.

First, this has nothing to do with COVID. What a fantastic way to reduce the labor pool without having to manufacture a reason or worry about seniority. In an irony of ironies, Trump was vilified for trying to reduce the number of Federal employees and shrink the Government, yet Biden with his vaccine mandate is doing it for him.

Second, the debate started with the vaccine will prevent COVID, to the vaccine will help the different variants from not being so bad when one invariably catches it, to now it reduces medical costs and sick days. So, again its back to businesses and saving money. Interesting...

I hate both political parties and am disinterested in the Vaxx\anti-vaxx debate, but find the intersections of politics and business fascinating. Money can buy anything......

Didn't this just get ruled on it Texas (of all places). It might have just been the state courts. Basically the ruling was - as long as the company is not asking an employee to do something illegal, they can have any rule they want. So, Hooters can ask their waitresses to wear tight t-shirts, hospitals and ask their employees to be vaxxed, etc.
Even in SF, where I worked most of my career, companies had a set of rules employees were expected to follow - want to bring your dog to work, get a job at Facebook. Ain't gonna happen at Bank of America.

I don't agree with this, but somewhere in our checkered past it was decided that corps are like people with similar rights. I as a person am perfectly within my rights to not allow someone in my house (or to work for me) who is wearing a pistol, or doesn't have shoes on, or isn't vaxxed, or is vaxxed. The same holds with a corp (as I understand it) and any employee is perfectly free to find employment elsewhere if they don't like the rules.

OK, it's Sept. 30th and I think we have a winner for the most idiotic post of the month. Congrats!!!:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

At the risk of being labeled as a conspiracy theorist, follow Alex Berenson on substack.

Do you ever ask yourself why we're mandating a 'vaccine' that really isn't? It's really nothing more than a good therapeutic. What do you want to bet that it's only a matter of time before they start mandating the boosters?

Do you ever really listen to what you are advocating? It's also a huge violation of the individual's civil liberties.

What's next? Weekly drug tests to ensure no employee is doing anything adverse to their health to keep premiums down? Daily submittal of your dietary intake to ensure optimal health to keep premiums down? Why not mandate a government recommended daily vitamin? Healthy hair is important, let's mandate a specific type of shampoo......

Because of this mandate, we're going to have 100's of thousands of people that will now be unemployed with no unemployment or health benefits. What good is that going to do for the country?

This idea of firing people who have worked someplace for 30 years for not being vaccinated and on the other hand allowing millions in the country from all over the world that are not vaccinated and have health problems for our medical to take care of, and put the burden on tax payers and the country

Those who are vaccinated may still be able to get Covid, but they are much less likely to get it, especially those who have had a booster shot. While the very few who have been vaccinated and still get Covid can potentially shed viral particles, the length of time they shed is very much shorter.

This is from the CDC:
“Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others. However, vaccinated people appear to spread the virus for a shorter time: For prior variants, lower amounts of viral genetic material were found in samples taken from fully vaccinated people who had breakthrough infections than from unvaccinated people with COVID-19. For people infected with the Delta variant, similar amounts of viral genetic material have been found among both unvaccinated and fully vaccinated people. However, like prior variants, the amount of viral genetic material may go down faster in fully vaccinated people when compared to unvaccinated people. This means fully vaccinated people will likely spread the virus for less time than unvaccinated people.”

Delta Variant: What We Know About the Science | CDC.

The COVID-19 shot does not prevent you from getting the virus
The COVID-19 shot does not prevent you from spreading the virus
Why on god green earth should not getting one prevent you from working or getting a job
I truly think the world has done lost their minds

Finally someone who has done their research. I don't think they realize that & what the spike protein is doing to their arteries.

Not according to Dr. Robert Malone. Maybe you should watch his interviews.

As a retired MD, I can only state that there are so many inaccuracies in your statement that I am at a loss for words to explain them.

If that is the case why is it the vaxxed are the ones getting the new variant?

You lost me with this one. Has fox news cooked up another variant?

Imagine a vaccine so safe you have to be threatened to take it, and a disease so deadly, you have to be tested to know if you have it.

I'm aware of both sides of this issue.

I guess my question is, how do you explain higher infection, hospitalization and death rates with roughly 60% of our population being vaccinated? Our rates are higher than a year ago when no one was vaccinated.

Great Britain and Israel have vaccination rates of 80%+. Again, their rates in those three categories are higher now than they were a year ago when the vaccines weren't even available.

Super news. We fly Delta because of the airflow patterns. Will check out AA. The passengers are still more of a concern on longer flights.

Once we lose so many United employees, flights will be cancelled snd rates will go up.
I feel it’s a double standard for those who want to work to get fired fir no vax, but yet we allow thousands in thru the border and don’t require them to be vaccinated. You must be vaccinated to work, but those living off welfare snd Medicaid do not need yo be vaccinated. I’m not saying I’m against the vaccine, only the double standards.

Research the financial supporters of the CDC, FDA & NIH.. They are professional's for the paycheck. Do you trust the gov't. The corporations that are profiting off of the illnesses all have had their board members in high management roles at the regulating dept.Follow the money.

Seems to make sense that everyone wanting a government handout should prove they are vaccinated.

Also travelers should have to be vaccinated. That makes a lot of sense too for ALL airline travelers along with wearing a mask as they have to do now.

We do need some way of verifying ones status. I don’t like these cards that are easily forged.


That’s a lot of common sense.

Hope the pilot doesn't have a heart attack while operating the aircraft. This is just 1 of the unfortunate side effects from he experimental jab. Research the VEARS reports. Doctors are under strict guidelines to enforce the AMA and FDA mandates when there are already many healing products that have been on the market for a very long time. Viruses are not new. Humans have been getting sicks for 100,000 of years.. Do you research.. google is not your friend--controlled

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Thank you United Airline employees! I know this isn’t a cure but it would cut down on Covid patients in hospitals & permit the very little kids to get attention. Most Covid people are adults & know better or could help the people who really need to be in hospital. Covid people could help a little by getting their shots or wearing mask or they could stay home whether they have it or not. I don’t want to breath their stinking Covid breath. So if you think it’s your right to not get shots or wear mask, stay home until our country is 100% Covid free!

FOX News! Everybody drink!

Seriously? Could you please show, or tell us, the source of where you heard this completely unfounded/outright false information?